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<p>what about rats tails?</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="583858" data-time="1464560719">
<p>The part about character.<br><br>
He has committed to his employer for a decent length of time.<br>
They are happy he is with the All Black Sevens and would be happy if he was with the All Black 15s. Had Barrett also gone to the Sevens would you be questioning his commitment to the ABs?<br>
As for your other silly comments I have explained plenty that I just get sick of the bullshit talkback type comments that get directed at the guy. For years we had people claiming that he was a self centred glory seeker which has finally calmed down after numerous respected coaches have sung his praises for being unselfish.<br>
I would guess Dan Carter has sold his stories to women's magazines far more than SBW and has also insisted on contracts that allow him to do stuff away from the ABs yet he doesn't cop half the stuff SBW does.</p>
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So for the 3rd time: I never questioned his professionalism, ability as a player or personal attributes. I merely said that it would be nice for him to hang around for a decent length of time but that isn't something he has shown a tendency to do before. Now wtf is wrong with that?<br><br>
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<p>Happy to insist on a sabbatical to earn money overseas as well and not be available for selection.<br>
Yes, DC was dedicated to the black jersey but if you apply the same logic so is SBW.<br>
BBBT is probably the better example of a code hopper and I have no problem there either.</p>
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<p>No one here is saying that SBW isn't dedicated to the All Blacks or 7's while he is playing for them. Rancid is just saying he is happy to see SBW commit to the All Blacks for a long period of time which SBW has not yet done. You're not really disagreeing with Rancid at all. You are disagreeing with bullshit talkback callers who haven't even posted in this thread.</p> -
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No one is saying that SBW isn't dedicated to the All Blacks or 7's while he is playing for them. Rancid is just saying he is happy to see SBW commit to the All Blacks for a long period of time which SBW has not yet done. You're not really disagreeing with Rancid at all. You are disagreeing with bullshit talkback callers who haven't even posted in this thread.</p></blockquote>
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Exactly, but that's Crucial's problem. He loves the guy so much that he sees slander or is looking for slander in pretty anything written about the guy. In this case he's apparently responding to remarks that no one here actually made.<br><br>
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<p>As an AB supporter, I naturally like the players who totally commit to my team more than those who commit for a year, then do something else, then come back, then go again.</p>
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So for the 3rd time: I never questioned his professionalism, ability as a player or personal attributes. I merely said that it would be nice for him to hang around for a decent length of time but that isn't something he has shown a tendency to do before. Now wtf is wrong with that?<br><br></p></blockquote>
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Why write that it is "out of character" for him to commit for long periods if not having a dig?<br>
Seems like you are changing the intent of your post to me. But if I have misunderstood them I apologise. <br>
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Why write that it is "out of character" for him to commit for long periods if not having a dig?<br>
Seems like you are changing the intent of your post to me. But if I have misunderstood them I apologise. <br>
I can't see why his character is questioned on a basis not applied to others that's all.<br>
His contract with the NZRU is as long as others sign for.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Sheesh, doesn't SBW read the NZ Herald? There's a fucking housing crisis up there, and a Chinaman will cut in at the auction and buy any house his missus has set her heart on. I hope he has at least saved his 20% deposit for a starter home or he and his family will be living in a Datsun 180B on the side of the road by a park. </p>
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<p>jesus christ SBW threads are funny. Every one is to script, but still funny. </p>
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<p>jesus christ SBW threads are funny. Every one is to script, but still funny. </p>
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jesus christ SBW threads are funny. Every one is to script, but still funny.</p></blockquote>
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<p>The ridiculous thing is that nobody has actually critised SBW in this thread. It's been set off by a fanboi desperately looking for criticism. It's farking absurd.</p>
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<p>With all due respect, looking at this from the outside, it comes across to me like you are the one up in arms yelling, whilst Crucial is sitting there wondering what all the the fuss is about.</p> -
<p>y'all are fluffybunnies!</p>
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With all due to respect, looking at this from the outside, it comes across to me like you are the one up in arms yelling, whilst Crucial is sitting there wondering what all the the fuss is about.</p></blockquote>
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<p>With all due respect, that's horseshit. I'm responding to a fanboi accusing me of trying to start a fight based on completely fair and normal comments. If Crucial can't tolerate those kinds of comments or somehow sees criticism in them then he needs serious help.</p>
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<p>I'm not entirely sure the above is helping out with your that's horseshit comment ...</p>
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<p>Maybe crucial is trying to wind you up on purpose (although I can't see how), and he's done a cracking job it. I actually agree with BSG, in that I can see both sides of the discussion. But I can't see anything worth getting wound up about. It's not like we are talking about Occam's Razor (which honestly, I still have NFC about).</p> -
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I'm not entirely sure the above is helping out with your that's horseshit comment ...<br><br>
Maybe crucial is trying to wind you up on purpose (although I can't see how), and he's done a cracking job it. I actually agree with BSG, in that I can see both sides of the discussion. But I can't see anything worth getting wound up about. It's not like we are talking about Occam's Razor (which honestly, I still have NFC about).</p></blockquote>
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Fair call.<br><br>
I'm just perplexed as to how my comments could be construed as an attempt to start an argument. It's nice to have a favourite player but that level of devotion is farking scary. -
<p>Yeah, we all want him in our national team for as long as he's good enough</p>
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<p>However worth bearing in mind that not many players sign on (commit) for longer than 4 years and in fact most seem to do 2 year deals - especially those closer to 30 years of age. SBW has done 2 years now and I don't expect the next deal (if there is one) will be longer than 2 years so this "long term commitment" idea is all a bit moot anyway</p> -
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<p>Fair call.<br><br>
I'm just perplexed as to how my comments could be construed as an attempt to start an argument. It's nice to have a favourite player but that level of devotion is farking scary.</p>
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<p>For starters just quit with the fanboi/devotion/etc etc comments. I am simply making a point about a player. Doesn't mean I'd drop my pants for him.</p>
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<p>If you can get past that then maybe I mis-construed your original comment (I have already apologised if that is the case)</p>
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<p>If you had written 'it would be good to see SBW have a long run with the ABs to see how he would go' then they may make the point you are now claiming.</p>
<p>Instead, saying things like it isn't in his character to do that and implying that he doesn't commit to the same degree that others do is what made me try and argue the opposite.</p>
