Boxing Thread
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@mikethesnow said in Boxing Thread:
Despite the mythical unbeaten record what this hasn’t conveyed is the sheer terror Tyson brought to the opening bell.
Very capable fighters were done before Tyson threw the first punch, and when he did start unloading they didn’t last that long after.
There was no warming in to the fight.
It was on like Donkey Kong from the get go.
And for a considerable portion of Tyson’s real career most of his opponents were afraid of the Bogeyman.
Until they weren’t, courtesy of Buster Douglas.
Connor McGregor has gone through the same arc.
I say this as a huge fan of Tyson but Foreman and Liston ( especially ) were more fearsome. Tyson didn’t beat many, if any, big names before Buster Douglas ( a washed up Larry Holmes doesn’t count )
Liston has to be the most fascinating boxer ever in my opinion. No one knew the exact date he was born and no one knew the exact date he died. He had a seven foot reach, freakish strength and toughness and surprising speed and boxing skills.
What IF: Sonny Liston vs. Mike Tyson
What IF former heavyweight champions Sonny Liston and Mike Tyson faced each other on their best night? Imagine Liston and Tyson staring each other down seconds before the first round. Other than possibly former heavyweight champ George Foreman, Liston and Tyson were the masters at psyching out...
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@antipodean said in Boxing Thread:
Tyson pre-1989 was a different fighter. That said, I would love to have seen him against 'Foreman, Frazier, Ali' as @MN5 said - the glory years of heavyweight boxing.
I believe ( as the article that @dogmeat shared says ) all three would beat him
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Thor has a massive left hand, quite surprising. Well done to Hall for getting up from that, even slimmed down both are still absolute monsters.
Sounds like it was quite the entertaining fight !
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Anyone tuning into SBW v Hall tonight?
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@canes4life $50 price tag on Stan.
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@kiwimurph sheesh that is steep.
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@kiwimurph said in Boxing Thread:
@canes4life $50 price tag on Stan.
Well that proved costly for the amount of time the bout took
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It may not stay up for long - (much like Hall).
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@daffy-jaffy there's a good chance I am wrong because I don't watch much boxing but Hall it looked like Hall went down quite easily.
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@crazy-horse said in Boxing Thread:
@daffy-jaffy there's a good chance I am wrong because I don't watch much boxing but Hall it looked like Hall went down quite easily.
Yeah read more in to it on how shite Hall was. Looked the part until the fight started then rubbish.
Didnt really learn too much more about SBWs boxing abilities as limited opportunity to display the ringcraft and skills (if any) he surely would have picked up in his recent camp
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One of those where people will be critical of the match up after the event ,
But hall does come from a junior boxing background, and to most , got the better of Gallen even though it was judged a draw .
So it did seem a reasonable match up before the event , not forgetting it’s marketing value , afl vs nrl/rugby etc .
There are levels, and for an ex footballer Sbw looked good . The Gallen match up will sell well .
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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
One of those where people will be critical of the match up after the event ,
But hall does come from a junior boxing background, and to most , got the better of Gallen even though it was judged a draw .
So it did seem a reasonable match up before the event , not forgetting it’s marketing value , afl vs nrl/rugby etc .
There are levels, and for an ex footballer Sbw looked good . The Gallen match up will sell well .
No one was bitching about the match up until after.
I think SBW going and training at Fury's gym basically lifted him well above fighting these wannabes.
His problem now will be finding real boxers at the level he needs to develop while still getting a payday. -
@crazy-horse said in Boxing Thread:
@daffy-jaffy there's a good chance I am wrong because I don't watch much boxing but Hall it looked like Hall went down quite easily.
Seemed to get hit with a temple shot early and his equilibrium went , it’s funny how all of a sudden he looked like an old man once that happened
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@crucial said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
One of those where people will be critical of the match up after the event ,
But hall does come from a junior boxing background, and to most , got the better of Gallen even though it was judged a draw .
So it did seem a reasonable match up before the event , not forgetting it’s marketing value , afl vs nrl/rugby etc .
There are levels, and for an ex footballer Sbw looked good . The Gallen match up will sell well .
No one was bitching about the match up until after.
I think SBW going and training at Fury's gym basically lifted him well above fighting these wannabes.
His problem now will be finding real boxers at the level he needs to develop while still getting a payday.I found Andy lees comments before the fight interesting, he said he is a great athlete and he learns so quickly . Andy is a straight shooter who doesn’t talk garbage .
If he beats Gallen , a fight with a huni in Australia or a fa in Nz might be on the cards .
I think that is a realistic goal for him -
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@crucial said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
One of those where people will be critical of the match up after the event ,
But hall does come from a junior boxing background, and to most , got the better of Gallen even though it was judged a draw .
So it did seem a reasonable match up before the event , not forgetting it’s marketing value , afl vs nrl/rugby etc .
There are levels, and for an ex footballer Sbw looked good . The Gallen match up will sell well .
No one was bitching about the match up until after.
I think SBW going and training at Fury's gym basically lifted him well above fighting these wannabes.
His problem now will be finding real boxers at the level he needs to develop while still getting a payday.I found Andy lees comments before the fight interesting, he said he is a great athlete and he learns so quickly . Andy is a straight shooter who doesn’t talk garbage .
If he beats Gallen , a fight with a huni in Australia or a fa in Nz might be on the cards .
I think that is a realistic goal for himMe too. Having said that, we didnt need Andy Lee to tell us SBW is a great athlete - we all knew that. The learning bit is good though as at times he didnt seem the fastest learner in rugby or league. I don't know who he was training under before but Andy Lee and the whole Fury camp will be so beneficial for him, Looking forward to seeing more as we didnt get much in that one round effort.
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@kiwiinmelb I wouldn't get too carried away haha. Let's not forget he got knocked down twice is his last fight against 3-17 Waikato Falefihi where he got a gift. Huni and Fa (who i don't rate that highly) would still wipe the floor with SBW or any league player.
No reason why the Gallen fight can't take place though.
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@african-monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb I wouldn't get too carried away haha. Let's not forget he got knocked down twice is his last fight against 3-17 Waikato Falefihi where he got a gift. Huni and Fa (who i don't rate that highly) would still wipe the floor with SBW or any league player.
No reason why the Gallen fight can't take place though.
SBW surely would have come a long way technically since then. Doesnt take much of a boxer to knock over a very much part time boxer (like SBW has been and possibly still is, and Barry Hall definitely is as we saw last night).
Gallen fight will be interesting. When is it supposed to be?
