Hurricanes vs Highlanders
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@nzbloke Maybe lineout losses are simply because one of the locks is not tall enough to outjump his opposite?
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@arhs said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke. But his ball carrying accuracy has dropped away.
Yeah, would like to see him take the ball up more, he reminds me so much of Coles with the devastating speed he has when he's in space.
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@higgins said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke Maybe lineout losses are simply because one of the locks is not tall enough to outjump his opposite?
That is probably a bit of it... reckon it's more about our locks aggressively attacking the ball in the air making sure they get in front of their opposite
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Surprised Hunt as a captain, is hunt captain of Ta$man?
I'm surprised Hunt is starting at 10 let alone the captain... surely Marty Banks would be a better option at 10.
gt12 pretty well sum up the responses that come to mind, Marty Banks????Not saying Marty Banks is that great, but he certainly offers more than Hunt who is a pretty average 10, he doesn't have that much gas to keep defences guessing, he's predictable... compare him to Love who is clearly a much better 1st-five.
Ok mate, respect that's your opinion, but just to me Marty Banks has always just been a fairly good 10 at best, and he certainly past his best now, no disrespect to him, but his legend is probably what we get excited about, rather than his ability these days..
NZbloke
When Perenara came back from Japan last year his form was very lacklustre, he's too good to play that poorly again this year, wonder when he returns ?With all these cases out lately we are lucky to be able to watch any rugby.
Mate I hoping TJP comes back in good nick, and in better form than last year with ABs, on that form he would struggle to be in top 3 halfbacks in NZ and for All Blacks.
Yeah, realize that about Banks, but may as well give him a crack as not that impressed with Hunt.
I'd expect Perenara to play much better this season, if he plays like last year through the whole of this years comp he definitely wouldn't deserve to be selected in the AB squad.
Today, Hunt is way better than Banks, any discussion of Banks and starting is someone whose brain is at least 5 years ago. He was a silly pick for the Highlanders from a playing point of view.
Do you actually think before you post... what I'm basically saying is Hunt is is just an average 10, have you got that or do you want me to say it again ?
Settle down internet tough guy.
You're advocating Banks start, he's currently worse than Hunt, who you consider an average 10.
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@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@dan54 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@dan54 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@kiwiwomble said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
Surprised Hunt as a captain, is hunt captain of Ta$man?
I'm surprised Hunt is starting at 10 let alone the captain... surely Marty Banks would be a better option at 10.
gt12 pretty well sum up the responses that come to mind, Marty Banks????Not saying Marty Banks is that great, but he certainly offers more than Hunt who is a pretty average 10, he doesn't have that much gas to keep defences guessing, he's predictable... compare him to Love who is clearly a much better 1st-five.
Ok mate, respect that's your opinion, but just to me Marty Banks has always just been a fairly good 10 at best, and he certainly past his best now, no disrespect to him, but his legend is probably what we get excited about, rather than his ability these days..
NZbloke
When Perenara came back from Japan last year his form was very lacklustre, he's too good to play that poorly again this year, wonder when he returns ?With all these cases out lately we are lucky to be able to watch any rugby.
Mate I hoping TJP comes back in good nick, and in better form than last year with ABs, on that form he would struggle to be in top 3 halfbacks in NZ and for All Blacks.
Yeah, realize that about Banks, but may as well give him a crack as not that impressed with Hunt.
I'd expect Perenara to play much better this season, if he plays like last year through the whole of this years comp he definitely wouldn't deserve to be selected in the AB squad.
Today, Hunt is way better than Banks, any discussion of Banks and starting is someone whose brain is at least 5 years ago. He was a silly pick for the Highlanders from a playing point of view.
Do you actually think before you post... what I'm basically saying is Hunt is is just an average 10, have you got that or do you want me to say it again ?
Settle down internet tough guy.
You're advocating Banks start, he's currently worse than Hunt, who you consider an average 10.
Well, talk sense then.
Let's be honest Hunt offers very little on attack, so may as well give someone else a crack. -
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@dan54 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@dan54 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@kiwiwomble said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
Surprised Hunt as a captain, is hunt captain of Ta$man?
I'm surprised Hunt is starting at 10 let alone the captain... surely Marty Banks would be a better option at 10.
gt12 pretty well sum up the responses that come to mind, Marty Banks????Not saying Marty Banks is that great, but he certainly offers more than Hunt who is a pretty average 10, he doesn't have that much gas to keep defences guessing, he's predictable... compare him to Love who is clearly a much better 1st-five.
Ok mate, respect that's your opinion, but just to me Marty Banks has always just been a fairly good 10 at best, and he certainly past his best now, no disrespect to him, but his legend is probably what we get excited about, rather than his ability these days..
NZbloke
When Perenara came back from Japan last year his form was very lacklustre, he's too good to play that poorly again this year, wonder when he returns ?With all these cases out lately we are lucky to be able to watch any rugby.
Mate I hoping TJP comes back in good nick, and in better form than last year with ABs, on that form he would struggle to be in top 3 halfbacks in NZ and for All Blacks.
Yeah, realize that about Banks, but may as well give him a crack as not that impressed with Hunt.
I'd expect Perenara to play much better this season, if he plays like last year through the whole of this years comp he definitely wouldn't deserve to be selected in the AB squad.
Today, Hunt is way better than Banks, any discussion of Banks and starting is someone whose brain is at least 5 years ago. He was a silly pick for the Highlanders from a playing point of view.
Do you actually think before you post... what I'm basically saying is Hunt is is just an average 10, have you got that or do you want me to say it again ?
Settle down internet tough guy.
You're advocating Banks start, he's currently worse than Hunt, who you consider an average 10.
Well, talk sense then.
Let's be honest Hunt offers very little on attack, so may as well give someone else a crack.Huh, talking sense is playing an inferior player because another player is average? Nope, that's talking nonsense.
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@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@dan54 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@dan54 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@kiwiwomble said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
Surprised Hunt as a captain, is hunt captain of Ta$man?
I'm surprised Hunt is starting at 10 let alone the captain... surely Marty Banks would be a better option at 10.
gt12 pretty well sum up the responses that come to mind, Marty Banks????Not saying Marty Banks is that great, but he certainly offers more than Hunt who is a pretty average 10, he doesn't have that much gas to keep defences guessing, he's predictable... compare him to Love who is clearly a much better 1st-five.
Ok mate, respect that's your opinion, but just to me Marty Banks has always just been a fairly good 10 at best, and he certainly past his best now, no disrespect to him, but his legend is probably what we get excited about, rather than his ability these days..
NZbloke
When Perenara came back from Japan last year his form was very lacklustre, he's too good to play that poorly again this year, wonder when he returns ?With all these cases out lately we are lucky to be able to watch any rugby.
Mate I hoping TJP comes back in good nick, and in better form than last year with ABs, on that form he would struggle to be in top 3 halfbacks in NZ and for All Blacks.
Yeah, realize that about Banks, but may as well give him a crack as not that impressed with Hunt.
I'd expect Perenara to play much better this season, if he plays like last year through the whole of this years comp he definitely wouldn't deserve to be selected in the AB squad.
Today, Hunt is way better than Banks, any discussion of Banks and starting is someone whose brain is at least 5 years ago. He was a silly pick for the Highlanders from a playing point of view.
Do you actually think before you post... what I'm basically saying is Hunt is is just an average 10, have you got that or do you want me to say it again ?
Settle down internet tough guy.
You're advocating Banks start, he's currently worse than Hunt, who you consider an average 10.
Well, talk sense then.
Let's be honest Hunt offers very little on attack, so may as well give someone else a crack.Huh, talking sense is playing an inferior player because another player is average? Nope, that's talking nonsense.
Don't rate either one of them... who do the Highlanders have in that position in their wider squad ? they need to take a punt on a young fella like the Canes did with Love.
1st-five Josh Ioane was a huge loss for the Highlanders.
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@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@dan54 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@dan54 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@kiwiwomble said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
Surprised Hunt as a captain, is hunt captain of Ta$man?
I'm surprised Hunt is starting at 10 let alone the captain... surely Marty Banks would be a better option at 10.
gt12 pretty well sum up the responses that come to mind, Marty Banks????Not saying Marty Banks is that great, but he certainly offers more than Hunt who is a pretty average 10, he doesn't have that much gas to keep defences guessing, he's predictable... compare him to Love who is clearly a much better 1st-five.
Ok mate, respect that's your opinion, but just to me Marty Banks has always just been a fairly good 10 at best, and he certainly past his best now, no disrespect to him, but his legend is probably what we get excited about, rather than his ability these days..
NZbloke
When Perenara came back from Japan last year his form was very lacklustre, he's too good to play that poorly again this year, wonder when he returns ?With all these cases out lately we are lucky to be able to watch any rugby.
Mate I hoping TJP comes back in good nick, and in better form than last year with ABs, on that form he would struggle to be in top 3 halfbacks in NZ and for All Blacks.
Yeah, realize that about Banks, but may as well give him a crack as not that impressed with Hunt.
I'd expect Perenara to play much better this season, if he plays like last year through the whole of this years comp he definitely wouldn't deserve to be selected in the AB squad.
Today, Hunt is way better than Banks, any discussion of Banks and starting is someone whose brain is at least 5 years ago. He was a silly pick for the Highlanders from a playing point of view.
Do you actually think before you post... what I'm basically saying is Hunt is is just an average 10, have you got that or do you want me to say it again ?
Settle down internet tough guy.
You're advocating Banks start, he's currently worse than Hunt, who you consider an average 10.
Well, talk sense then.
Let's be honest Hunt offers very little on attack, so may as well give someone else a crack.Huh, talking sense is playing an inferior player because another player is average? Nope, that's talking nonsense.
Don't rate either one of them... who do the Highlanders have in that position in their wider squad ? they need to take a punt on a young fella like the Canes did with Love.
We don't have a lot of talented young 10s who are ready to be starting Super Rugby games. For most of the young 10s floating around it could do more damage than good, as they're nowhere near ready. Lincoln McClutchie was probably the guy, if they gave him a contract a year earlier. They could try Koroi, but I don't think he's primarily a 10 - it'd be a big risk.
Hunt is currently the best choice.
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@bobily2 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@dan54 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@dan54 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@kiwiwomble said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
Surprised Hunt as a captain, is hunt captain of Ta$man?
I'm surprised Hunt is starting at 10 let alone the captain... surely Marty Banks would be a better option at 10.
gt12 pretty well sum up the responses that come to mind, Marty Banks????Not saying Marty Banks is that great, but he certainly offers more than Hunt who is a pretty average 10, he doesn't have that much gas to keep defences guessing, he's predictable... compare him to Love who is clearly a much better 1st-five.
Ok mate, respect that's your opinion, but just to me Marty Banks has always just been a fairly good 10 at best, and he certainly past his best now, no disrespect to him, but his legend is probably what we get excited about, rather than his ability these days..
NZbloke
When Perenara came back from Japan last year his form was very lacklustre, he's too good to play that poorly again this year, wonder when he returns ?With all these cases out lately we are lucky to be able to watch any rugby.
Mate I hoping TJP comes back in good nick, and in better form than last year with ABs, on that form he would struggle to be in top 3 halfbacks in NZ and for All Blacks.
Yeah, realize that about Banks, but may as well give him a crack as not that impressed with Hunt.
I'd expect Perenara to play much better this season, if he plays like last year through the whole of this years comp he definitely wouldn't deserve to be selected in the AB squad.
Today, Hunt is way better than Banks, any discussion of Banks and starting is someone whose brain is at least 5 years ago. He was a silly pick for the Highlanders from a playing point of view.
Do you actually think before you post... what I'm basically saying is Hunt is is just an average 10, have you got that or do you want me to say it again ?
Settle down internet tough guy.
You're advocating Banks start, he's currently worse than Hunt, who you consider an average 10.
Well, talk sense then.
Let's be honest Hunt offers very little on attack, so may as well give someone else a crack.Huh, talking sense is playing an inferior player because another player is average? Nope, that's talking nonsense.
Don't rate either one of them... who do the Highlanders have in that position in their wider squad ? they need to take a punt on a young fella like the Canes did with Love.
We don't have a lot of talented young 10s who are ready to be starting Super Rugby games. For most of the young 10s floating around it could do more damage than good, as they're nowhere near ready. Lincoln McClutchie was probably the guy, if they gave him a contract a year earlier. They could try Koroi, but I don't think he's primarily a 10 - it'd be a big risk.
Hunt is currently the best choice.
Sometimes though you need give a young fella a crack, start slowly by working him into the game by starting him on the bench etc.
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@bobily2 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@dan54 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@dan54 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@kiwiwomble said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
Surprised Hunt as a captain, is hunt captain of Ta$man?
I'm surprised Hunt is starting at 10 let alone the captain... surely Marty Banks would be a better option at 10.
gt12 pretty well sum up the responses that come to mind, Marty Banks????Not saying Marty Banks is that great, but he certainly offers more than Hunt who is a pretty average 10, he doesn't have that much gas to keep defences guessing, he's predictable... compare him to Love who is clearly a much better 1st-five.
Ok mate, respect that's your opinion, but just to me Marty Banks has always just been a fairly good 10 at best, and he certainly past his best now, no disrespect to him, but his legend is probably what we get excited about, rather than his ability these days..
NZbloke
When Perenara came back from Japan last year his form was very lacklustre, he's too good to play that poorly again this year, wonder when he returns ?With all these cases out lately we are lucky to be able to watch any rugby.
Mate I hoping TJP comes back in good nick, and in better form than last year with ABs, on that form he would struggle to be in top 3 halfbacks in NZ and for All Blacks.
Yeah, realize that about Banks, but may as well give him a crack as not that impressed with Hunt.
I'd expect Perenara to play much better this season, if he plays like last year through the whole of this years comp he definitely wouldn't deserve to be selected in the AB squad.
Today, Hunt is way better than Banks, any discussion of Banks and starting is someone whose brain is at least 5 years ago. He was a silly pick for the Highlanders from a playing point of view.
Do you actually think before you post... what I'm basically saying is Hunt is is just an average 10, have you got that or do you want me to say it again ?
Settle down internet tough guy.
You're advocating Banks start, he's currently worse than Hunt, who you consider an average 10.
Well, talk sense then.
Let's be honest Hunt offers very little on attack, so may as well give someone else a crack.Huh, talking sense is playing an inferior player because another player is average? Nope, that's talking nonsense.
Don't rate either one of them... who do the Highlanders have in that position in their wider squad ? they need to take a punt on a young fella like the Canes did with Love.
We don't have a lot of talented young 10s who are ready to be starting Super Rugby games. For most of the young 10s floating around it could do more damage than good, as they're nowhere near ready. Lincoln McClutchie was probably the guy, if they gave him a contract a year earlier. They could try Koroi, but I don't think he's primarily a 10 - it'd be a big risk.
Hunt is currently the best choice.
They've signed the very young kid from Auckland, so I guess they are sticking Hunt until he develops (if he does), my understanding is that he won't see Super rugby this year.
Edit, just the two 10s in the squad, and Koroi is I guess the back-up plus Coombes Fabling I believe can also play a bit of 10.
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@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@bobily2 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@dan54 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@dan54 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@kiwiwomble said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
Surprised Hunt as a captain, is hunt captain of Ta$man?
I'm surprised Hunt is starting at 10 let alone the captain... surely Marty Banks would be a better option at 10.
gt12 pretty well sum up the responses that come to mind, Marty Banks????Not saying Marty Banks is that great, but he certainly offers more than Hunt who is a pretty average 10, he doesn't have that much gas to keep defences guessing, he's predictable... compare him to Love who is clearly a much better 1st-five.
Ok mate, respect that's your opinion, but just to me Marty Banks has always just been a fairly good 10 at best, and he certainly past his best now, no disrespect to him, but his legend is probably what we get excited about, rather than his ability these days..
NZbloke
When Perenara came back from Japan last year his form was very lacklustre, he's too good to play that poorly again this year, wonder when he returns ?With all these cases out lately we are lucky to be able to watch any rugby.
Mate I hoping TJP comes back in good nick, and in better form than last year with ABs, on that form he would struggle to be in top 3 halfbacks in NZ and for All Blacks.
Yeah, realize that about Banks, but may as well give him a crack as not that impressed with Hunt.
I'd expect Perenara to play much better this season, if he plays like last year through the whole of this years comp he definitely wouldn't deserve to be selected in the AB squad.
Today, Hunt is way better than Banks, any discussion of Banks and starting is someone whose brain is at least 5 years ago. He was a silly pick for the Highlanders from a playing point of view.
Do you actually think before you post... what I'm basically saying is Hunt is is just an average 10, have you got that or do you want me to say it again ?
Settle down internet tough guy.
You're advocating Banks start, he's currently worse than Hunt, who you consider an average 10.
Well, talk sense then.
Let's be honest Hunt offers very little on attack, so may as well give someone else a crack.Huh, talking sense is playing an inferior player because another player is average? Nope, that's talking nonsense.
Don't rate either one of them... who do the Highlanders have in that position in their wider squad ? they need to take a punt on a young fella like the Canes did with Love.
We don't have a lot of talented young 10s who are ready to be starting Super Rugby games. For most of the young 10s floating around it could do more damage than good, as they're nowhere near ready. Lincoln McClutchie was probably the guy, if they gave him a contract a year earlier. They could try Koroi, but I don't think he's primarily a 10 - it'd be a big risk.
Hunt is currently the best choice.
Sometimes though you need give a young fella a crack, start slowly by working him into the game by starting him on the bench etc.
I agree - but I don't think there is anyone who is ready for that. Do you have any suggestions?
I only know of Cameron Millar and Ajay Faleafaga being in the squad. Faleafaga hasn't even played for Otago, and Cameron Millar has played 2 games and would probably be the smallest 10 in the competition if he got gametime.
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@bobily2 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@bobily2 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@dan54 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@dan54 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@kiwiwomble said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
Surprised Hunt as a captain, is hunt captain of Ta$man?
I'm surprised Hunt is starting at 10 let alone the captain... surely Marty Banks would be a better option at 10.
gt12 pretty well sum up the responses that come to mind, Marty Banks????Not saying Marty Banks is that great, but he certainly offers more than Hunt who is a pretty average 10, he doesn't have that much gas to keep defences guessing, he's predictable... compare him to Love who is clearly a much better 1st-five.
Ok mate, respect that's your opinion, but just to me Marty Banks has always just been a fairly good 10 at best, and he certainly past his best now, no disrespect to him, but his legend is probably what we get excited about, rather than his ability these days..
NZbloke
When Perenara came back from Japan last year his form was very lacklustre, he's too good to play that poorly again this year, wonder when he returns ?With all these cases out lately we are lucky to be able to watch any rugby.
Mate I hoping TJP comes back in good nick, and in better form than last year with ABs, on that form he would struggle to be in top 3 halfbacks in NZ and for All Blacks.
Yeah, realize that about Banks, but may as well give him a crack as not that impressed with Hunt.
I'd expect Perenara to play much better this season, if he plays like last year through the whole of this years comp he definitely wouldn't deserve to be selected in the AB squad.
Today, Hunt is way better than Banks, any discussion of Banks and starting is someone whose brain is at least 5 years ago. He was a silly pick for the Highlanders from a playing point of view.
Do you actually think before you post... what I'm basically saying is Hunt is is just an average 10, have you got that or do you want me to say it again ?
Settle down internet tough guy.
You're advocating Banks start, he's currently worse than Hunt, who you consider an average 10.
Well, talk sense then.
Let's be honest Hunt offers very little on attack, so may as well give someone else a crack.Huh, talking sense is playing an inferior player because another player is average? Nope, that's talking nonsense.
Don't rate either one of them... who do the Highlanders have in that position in their wider squad ? they need to take a punt on a young fella like the Canes did with Love.
We don't have a lot of talented young 10s who are ready to be starting Super Rugby games. For most of the young 10s floating around it could do more damage than good, as they're nowhere near ready. Lincoln McClutchie was probably the guy, if they gave him a contract a year earlier. They could try Koroi, but I don't think he's primarily a 10 - it'd be a big risk.
Hunt is currently the best choice.
Sometimes though you need give a young fella a crack, start slowly by working him into the game by starting him on the bench etc.
I agree - but I don't think there is anyone who is ready for that. Do you have any suggestions?
I only know of Cameron Millar and Ajay Faleafaga being in the squad. Faleafaga hasn't even played for Otago, and Cameron Millar has played 2 games and would probably be the smallest 10 in the competition if he got gametime.
I don't think either are 'officially' part of the squad either right? They've already said that they'll be very careful with Faleafaga, so we won't see him.
It's Hunt, and he's perfectly suitable for Super team who I want to come behind the Chiefs.
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@gt12 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
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@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@bobily2 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nepia said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@dan54 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@dan54 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
@kiwiwomble said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
Surprised Hunt as a captain, is hunt captain of Ta$man?
I'm surprised Hunt is starting at 10 let alone the captain... surely Marty Banks would be a better option at 10.
gt12 pretty well sum up the responses that come to mind, Marty Banks????Not saying Marty Banks is that great, but he certainly offers more than Hunt who is a pretty average 10, he doesn't have that much gas to keep defences guessing, he's predictable... compare him to Love who is clearly a much better 1st-five.
Ok mate, respect that's your opinion, but just to me Marty Banks has always just been a fairly good 10 at best, and he certainly past his best now, no disrespect to him, but his legend is probably what we get excited about, rather than his ability these days..
NZbloke
When Perenara came back from Japan last year his form was very lacklustre, he's too good to play that poorly again this year, wonder when he returns ?With all these cases out lately we are lucky to be able to watch any rugby.
Mate I hoping TJP comes back in good nick, and in better form than last year with ABs, on that form he would struggle to be in top 3 halfbacks in NZ and for All Blacks.
Yeah, realize that about Banks, but may as well give him a crack as not that impressed with Hunt.
I'd expect Perenara to play much better this season, if he plays like last year through the whole of this years comp he definitely wouldn't deserve to be selected in the AB squad.
Today, Hunt is way better than Banks, any discussion of Banks and starting is someone whose brain is at least 5 years ago. He was a silly pick for the Highlanders from a playing point of view.
Do you actually think before you post... what I'm basically saying is Hunt is is just an average 10, have you got that or do you want me to say it again ?
Settle down internet tough guy.
You're advocating Banks start, he's currently worse than Hunt, who you consider an average 10.
Well, talk sense then.
Let's be honest Hunt offers very little on attack, so may as well give someone else a crack.Huh, talking sense is playing an inferior player because another player is average? Nope, that's talking nonsense.
Don't rate either one of them... who do the Highlanders have in that position in their wider squad ? they need to take a punt on a young fella like the Canes did with Love.
We don't have a lot of talented young 10s who are ready to be starting Super Rugby games. For most of the young 10s floating around it could do more damage than good, as they're nowhere near ready. Lincoln McClutchie was probably the guy, if they gave him a contract a year earlier. They could try Koroi, but I don't think he's primarily a 10 - it'd be a big risk.
Hunt is currently the best choice.
Sometimes though you need give a young fella a crack, start slowly by working him into the game by starting him on the bench etc.
I agree - but I don't think there is anyone who is ready for that. Do you have any suggestions?
I only know of Cameron Millar and Ajay Faleafaga being in the squad. Faleafaga hasn't even played for Otago, and Cameron Millar has played 2 games and would probably be the smallest 10 in the competition if he got gametime.
I don't think either are 'officially' part of the squad either right? They've already said that they'll be very careful with Faleafaga, so we won't see him.
It's Hunt, and he's perfectly suitable for Super team who I want to come behind the Chiefs.
I should've said around the squad, rather than part of the squad.
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Surprised Hunt as a captain, is hunt captain of Ta$man?
I'm surprised Hunt is starting at 10 let alone the captain... surely Marty Banks would be a better option at 10.
gt12 pretty well sum up the responses that come to mind, Marty Banks????Not saying Marty Banks is that great, but he certainly offers more than Hunt who is a pretty average 10, he doesn't have that much gas to keep defences guessing, he's predictable... compare him to Love who is clearly a much better 1st-five.
Ok mate, respect that's your opinion, but just to me Marty Banks has always just been a fairly good 10 at best, and he certainly past his best now, no disrespect to him, but his legend is probably what we get excited about, rather than his ability these days..
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When Perenara came back from Japan last year his form was very lacklustre, he's too good to play that poorly again this year, wonder when he returns ?With all these cases out lately we are lucky to be able to watch any rugby.
Mate I hoping TJP comes back in good nick, and in better form than last year with ABs, on that form he would struggle to be in top 3 halfbacks in NZ and for All Blacks.
Yeah, realize that about Banks, but may as well give him a crack as not that impressed with Hunt.
I'd expect Perenara to play much better this season, if he plays like last year through the whole of this years comp he definitely wouldn't deserve to be selected in the AB squad.
Today, Hunt is way better than Banks, any discussion of Banks and starting is someone whose brain is at least 5 years ago. He was a silly pick for the Highlanders from a playing point of view.
Do you actually think before you post... what I'm basically saying is Hunt is is just an average 10, have you got that or do you want me to say it again ?
Settle down internet tough guy.
You're advocating Banks start, he's currently worse than Hunt, who you consider an average 10.
Well, talk sense then.
Let's be honest Hunt offers very little on attack, so may as well give someone else a crack.Huh, talking sense is playing an inferior player because another player is average? Nope, that's talking nonsense.
Don't rate either one of them... who do the Highlanders have in that position in their wider squad ? they need to take a punt on a young fella like the Canes did with Love.
We don't have a lot of talented young 10s who are ready to be starting Super Rugby games. For most of the young 10s floating around it could do more damage than good, as they're nowhere near ready. Lincoln McClutchie was probably the guy, if they gave him a contract a year earlier. They could try Koroi, but I don't think he's primarily a 10 - it'd be a big risk.
Hunt is currently the best choice.
Sometimes though you need give a young fella a crack, start slowly by working him into the game by starting him on the bench etc.
I agree - but I don't think there is anyone who is ready for that. Do you have any suggestions?
I only know of Cameron Millar and Ajay Faleafaga being in the squad. Faleafaga hasn't even played for Otago, and Cameron Millar has played 2 games and would probably be the smallest 10 in the competition if he got gametime.
I don't think either are 'officially' part of the squad either right? They've already said that they'll be very careful with Faleafaga, so we won't see him.
It's Hunt, and he's perfectly suitable for Super team who I want to come behind the Chiefs.
I should've said around the squad, rather than part of the squad.
Yeah, just trying to back up your argument, as from the squad itself, I think the only other options would possibly be Koroi.
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Surprised Hunt as a captain, is hunt captain of Ta$man?
I'm surprised Hunt is starting at 10 let alone the captain... surely Marty Banks would be a better option at 10.
gt12 pretty well sum up the responses that come to mind, Marty Banks????Not saying Marty Banks is that great, but he certainly offers more than Hunt who is a pretty average 10, he doesn't have that much gas to keep defences guessing, he's predictable... compare him to Love who is clearly a much better 1st-five.
Ok mate, respect that's your opinion, but just to me Marty Banks has always just been a fairly good 10 at best, and he certainly past his best now, no disrespect to him, but his legend is probably what we get excited about, rather than his ability these days..
NZbloke
When Perenara came back from Japan last year his form was very lacklustre, he's too good to play that poorly again this year, wonder when he returns ?With all these cases out lately we are lucky to be able to watch any rugby.
Mate I hoping TJP comes back in good nick, and in better form than last year with ABs, on that form he would struggle to be in top 3 halfbacks in NZ and for All Blacks.
Yeah, realize that about Banks, but may as well give him a crack as not that impressed with Hunt.
I'd expect Perenara to play much better this season, if he plays like last year through the whole of this years comp he definitely wouldn't deserve to be selected in the AB squad.
Today, Hunt is way better than Banks, any discussion of Banks and starting is someone whose brain is at least 5 years ago. He was a silly pick for the Highlanders from a playing point of view.
Do you actually think before you post... what I'm basically saying is Hunt is is just an average 10, have you got that or do you want me to say it again ?
Settle down internet tough guy.
You're advocating Banks start, he's currently worse than Hunt, who you consider an average 10.
Well, talk sense then.
Let's be honest Hunt offers very little on attack, so may as well give someone else a crack.Huh, talking sense is playing an inferior player because another player is average? Nope, that's talking nonsense.
Don't rate either one of them... who do the Highlanders have in that position in their wider squad ? they need to take a punt on a young fella like the Canes did with Love.
We don't have a lot of talented young 10s who are ready to be starting Super Rugby games. For most of the young 10s floating around it could do more damage than good, as they're nowhere near ready. Lincoln McClutchie was probably the guy, if they gave him a contract a year earlier. They could try Koroi, but I don't think he's primarily a 10 - it'd be a big risk.
Hunt is currently the best choice.
Sometimes though you need give a young fella a crack, start slowly by working him into the game by starting him on the bench etc.
I agree - but I don't think there is anyone who is ready for that. Do you have any suggestions?
I only know of Cameron Millar and Ajay Faleafaga being in the squad. Faleafaga hasn't even played for Otago, and Cameron Millar has played 2 games and would probably be the smallest 10 in the competition if he got gametime.
I'm a Canes supporter so don't really know those young players you're talking about... with the positive type of game we play in NZ reckon it's so important to have a 10 that can keep the defence in two minds because of his pace, also the ability to really spark a backline... Josh Ioane is a class 10, it's unfortunate he's not playing for you this season.
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I'm not a Highlanders supporter either. I don't really support a Super Rugby team, to be honest. I just follow young players who I think would be good in the ABs.
I guess I feel it's all very well and good saying that we need someone who can keep the defense in check - but if that guy doesn't exist, the coaches have to work with what they have. And I think this is one of those cases. I don't think there are any 10s in the country who are Super Rugby quality who aren't being selected (maybe D'Angelo Leuila aside - not sure what his situation is, but I imagine his ineligibility for NZ holds him back).
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@bobily2 said in Hurricanes vs Highlanders:
I'm not a Highlanders supporter either. I don't really support a Super Rugby team, to be honest. I just follow young players who I think would be good in the ABs.
I guess I feel it's all very well and good saying that we need someone who can keep the defense in check - but if that guy doesn't exist, the coaches have to work with what they have. And I think this is one of those cases. I don't think there are any 10s in the country who are Super Rugby quality who aren't being selected (maybe D'Angelo Leuila aside - not sure what his situation is, but I imagine his ineligibility for NZ holds him back).
As mentioned though when you're struggling in the 1st-five area it's well worth giving a young fella a go... if the Canes hadn't given Love an opportunity we would've had to put up with Garden-Bachop, who is nowhwere as good as him, Love makes a dangerous Canes backline even more lethal.
