Chris Gayle. Stay Classy
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<p>bro, that was in the UK...the accent added 3 points to my out of 10 rating, so I was a solid 6!</p>
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<p>Same here........looking like every other pasty Scots/irish fluffybunny got me back down mid range again though.......</p> -
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<p>Then perhaps you could provide steps-by-step instructions for how to ask out someone from the opposite sex. Perhaps also a list of approved locations?</p>
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<p>I'm ok, my wife has been sufficiently cowered into staying married to me for 10 years.</p>
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<p>Well, you could just not care what I think.</p>
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<p>I think it is a dick move to ask someone out if they are working, if they are busy or if there are other people around. Surely when you go to ask a woman out, you ask yourself is this a good time?</p> -
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Well, you could just not care what I think.<br><br>
I think it is a dick move to ask someone out if they are working, if they are busy or if there are other people around. Surely when you go to ask a woman out, you ask yourself is this a good time?</p></blockquote>
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<p>Well, you could just not care what I think.</p>
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<p>I think it is a dick move to ask someone out if they are working, if they are busy or if there are other people around. Surely when you go to ask a woman out, you ask yourself is this a good time?</p>
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<p>About 10 years ago I asked a colleague of mine out whilst she was working. She's now the mother of my children and my CVO.</p>
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<p>Dick move be damned. If your attracted to a girl, and you never find the right time to ask her out (because she's working is a classic lame-arse excuse), then you never know what you may miss out on.</p> -
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<p>If there are other people around? Would alone in a dark alley be more appropriate?</p>
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<p>It would certainly add to that vital "intimidation factor" that is so important.</p> -
<p>and, as a double bonus, i look my best in the dark</p>
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<p>About 10 years ago I asked a colleague of mine out whilst she was working. She's now the mother of my children and my CVO.</p>
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<p>Dick move be damned. If your attracted to a girl, and you never find the right time to ask her out (because she's working is a classic lame-arse excuse), then you never know what you may miss out on.</p>
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<p>If there are other people around? Would alone in a dark alley be more appropriate?</p>
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<p>About 10 years ago I asked a colleague of mine out whilst she was working. She's now the mother of my children and my CVO.</p>
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<p>Dick move be damned. If your attracted to a girl, and you never find the right time to ask her out (because she's working is a classic lame-arse excuse), then you never know what you may miss out on.</p>
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<p>yes, as I said that happened to me years ago but I saw her with the very bloke and it turned out he was.</p>
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<p>Unless it was all a fiendish ruse to fool me.</p>
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<p>It was probably like that time on <em>Home & Away</em> when-...</p>
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<p>Great thread guys. Props to hydro for propping it along.</p>
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<p>I'm saying the 'some girls' is a larger group than the 'some guys.'</p>
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<p>Here are some girls talking about their experiences of rejection:</p>
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<p>I don't know that <em>most</em> guys take rejection poorly, it's that <em>some</em> do, and some is enough to be wary. And being called names or physically attacked isn't the only way to take a rejection badly, though that's often all that men will understanding "taking it badly" to mean. I'm dealing with a situation where an unambiguous "no" is being taken as a "keep trying." Things like "but I'm better than your boyfriend" or "but don't I deserve a chance" are bothersome for a few different reasons, even though I doubt he's going to call me names and hit me.</p>
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<p>No. I think it's a minority but it's such an unpleasant thing to happen at all, that lots of girls are wary about it. Kind of like how there's only a small chance you'll get in a car accident but you'll still put on a seatbelt, lots if women will automatically put up some walls against the small chance the guy will have a bad reaction. Especially when that bad reaction can be scary (cursed out, followed etc)</p>
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<p>The guys who get ANGRY and call you a bitch are rare but the ones who are pushy aren't.</p>
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<p>Depends on the context. If I reject someone's offer to dance/get a drink/etc while at a party or bar, guys tend to get pretty pissed. One guy even went into a rant on how "there's a lot worse guys than me in the place you know." If you say so, buddy.</p>
<p>However, if I reject someone's offer to go out to dinner/coffee in a sober context, they usually take it okay. In my experience that is.</p>
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<p>When it comes to rejecting guys, 1/5 times I get either the "frigid bitch" reaction and maybe 2/5 times the "nice guy" woe is me reaction (which is honestly worse).</p>
<p>The other 2/5 times are usually "oh, okay".</p>
<p>It's just that those 3/5 times are soooo unpleasant.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/2p9thd/based_on_your_experience_do_most_guys_take/'>https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/2p9thd/based_on_your_experience_do_most_guys_take/</a></p>
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<p>Do you really think the top 5 comments on a male discussion board would be the same? So, yes, it is more difficult to say no when you are a woman because you are more likely to get a negative reaction from a guy. It's not me being sexist against women for saying so. It is me criticising men who think it is okay to be pushy and ignore signals.</p>
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<p>Bullshit anecdotal evidence. Some more anecdotal evidence is that I've known guys that have rejected girls and the crazy fucking bitches have stalked them for months after and tried to sabotage any future relationship they have by making up lies about them. I'd rather someone call me a name and never bother me again then that shit. There are some crazy fucking woman out there, don't sit there and tell me they are always the "victim" in everything because they are so "intimidated" by men.</p> -
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<p>these young fluffybunnys these days have no idea how easy they have it. In my day we had to actually sack up and approach girls. And if we hit a dry spell (so, you know, most of the time), we had to hire/buy porn.</p>
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<p>Now? It's a fucking app on your phone, you can almost get laid with a swipe of the finger. And if for some reason it still doesn't work, that free porn comes right to your phone!</p>
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<p>jesus, it really is a golden age</p>
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<p>A-fucking-men. There was that guy at school that always had a briefcase full of porn that you'd have to go and see if you wanted anything, now it's just "mummy can I please have a smart phone so...errr...I can call you if I am ever in trouble?".</p> -
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<p>Great thread guys. Props to hydro for propping it along.</p>
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<p>Bullshit anecdotal evidence. Some more anecdotal evidence is that I've known guys that have rejected girls and the crazy fucking bitches have stalked them for months after and tried to sabotage any future relationship they have by making up lies about them. I'd rather someone call me a name and never bother me again then that shit. There are some crazy fucking woman out there, don't sit there and tell me they are always the "victim" in everything because they are so "intimidated" by men.</p>
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<p>You say in this post that I'm telling you that women are always the victim. Let's see what I have posted:</p>
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<p>'These things are more difficult when you are woman.'</p>
<p>'Some women are intimidated by men who are often stronger than they are. Women are more likely to feel threatened if they turn down a man than vice-versa.'</p>
<p>'A lot of women I know do the whole fake number thing to move men along. Or else they say they have a boyfriend.'</p>
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<p>I'm not saying being threatening will help you get a girlfriend. I'm just saying that some girls get intimidated when they are asked out by some guys.'</p>
<p>'I'm saying the 'some girls' is a larger group than the 'some guys.''</p>
<p>'So, yes, it is more difficult to say no when you are a woman because you are more likely to get a negative reaction from a guy.'</p>
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<p>So where the hell did you get always from? How many times do i have to say some women for you to get that I'm talking about some women. Where the hell did I say that women are always a victim? I have been quite clear about what I am talking about and what I am not. Admittedly, I should have read TR's post better earlier in the thread and I did apologise for that but that was one post and you have thoroughly misunderstood almost everything I have written in this thread! I just don't know what you have been reading to get that I think women are always victims or that they are always intimidated. Is most likely a synonym for always? </p>
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<p>Do you really think it is just as easy for a girl to turn down a guy as it is for a guy to turn down a girl? If you want statistics you can look up the victims of rape or you can find out which sex is more likely to be sexually harassed. There is no way a discussion of women being rejected by men would go the same way, anecdotal or otherwise.</p>
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<p>If you want stats, here ya go: "The survey found that 8% of women and 2% of men have been stalked at some time during their lives. This means that 1 out of every 12 women, and 1 out of ever 45 men have been stalked during their lives (2)." <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://mainweb-v.musc.edu/vawprevention/research/stalking.shtml'>https://mainweb-v.musc.edu/vawprevention/research/stalking.shtml</a></p>
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<p>Stalking helps to back up my point that women are <strong>more likely </strong>(see I bolded it for you this time) to be victims if they reject men. Men can also be victims of stalking but it is<strong> less likely </strong>(don't confuse with never).</p> -
<p>I'm not totally sure what your point is. I assume it is this?</p>
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<p><strong><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">So, yes, it is more difficult to say no when you are a woman because you are more likely to get a negative reaction from a guy.</span></strong></p>
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<p><span>I'm not trying to argue that woman don't face all manner of issues around sexism in society, but all Gayle did wrong was ask her out on live tele which was embarrassing for Mel (I would say both of them but Gayle has no shame), but hardly a big deal. People jumping on their high horses and screaming "SEXISM" are undermining the real issues around sexism that are <em>actually </em>impacting woman. Just like people that try and find racism everywhere - undermining actual issues around race that we need to address.</span></p> -
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<p>I'm not totally sure what your point is. I assume it is this?</p>
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<p><strong><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">So, yes, it is more difficult to say no when you are a woman because you are more likely to get a negative reaction from a guy.</span></strong></p>
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<p><span>I'm not trying to argue that woman don't face all manner of issues around sexism in society, but all Gayle did wrong was ask her out on live tele which was embarrassing for Mel (I would say both of them but Gayle has no shame), but hardly a big deal. People jumping on their high horses and screaming "SEXISM" are undermining the real issues around sexism that are <em>actually </em>impacting woman. Just like people that try and find racism everywhere - undermining actual issues around race that we need to address.</span></p>
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<p>Now, now NQ, we've clearly moved on from Gayle, the point of this thread is stating the case for being intimidating and watching the honeys flock to your aggressive aura......</p>
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<p>As for that stalking stat that hydro11 claims the 2% is either completely wrong or I'm unlucky enough to have all the male victims as mates. The amount of times I've sat down for a brew with guys I know and we all have a story about "that psycho bitch" we used to go out with/rejected or whatever......</p> -
The survey hydro quoted is talking about people being stalked by their abusive ex-partners, so is not really relevant to the point he was trying to make.
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<p>The survey hydro quoted is talking about people being stalked by their abusive ex-partners, so is not really relevant to the point he was trying to make.</p>
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<p>.....and there are "degrees" of stalking too of course. Lots of unwanted texts vs letting herself in the house cutting up all your cushions and slitting her wrists ( I watched "Play Misty for me" recently )</p>
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<p>I've had it at the lower end of the scale a few times, not sure if chicks dig me or if I'm a magnet for lunatics. I'd say the latter.</p>
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<p>But I'm sure most blokes have been in a "God damn, won't this mutha fucken bitch just leave me alone?" situation.....</p>
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<p>Even Mariner4Life.</p>
