Black Caps vs Proteas 2022
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@bayimports said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzzp I think they will be better as well and don't underestimate the winning of the toss as well, that could also influence the second test
That was the first toss Latham had won as NZ captain, so he's probably used up his luck for the season.
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Boult isn't going to play in the 2nd test, but is still going to be staying at home... ffs ! he could've at least gone along to the ground & supported his team mates like Williamson is doing.
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@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
Boult isn't going to play in the 2nd test, but is still going to be staying at home... ffs ! he could've at least gone along to the ground & supported his team mates like Williamson is doing.
Unless they see value in him being there as a net bowler, why? It could be disruptive to their normal patterns of prep.
Williamson is the captain.
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@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
Boult isn't going to play in the 2nd test, but is still going to be staying at home... ffs ! he could've at least gone along to the ground & supported his team mates like Williamson is doing.
Everyone's family situations are different mate, who knows why he's putting that ahead of his cricket right now (which is just his job TBH). A new baby is no joke, sometimes it goes smooth, other times you need to really be there to support your wife through it.
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@no-quarter said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
Boult isn't going to play in the 2nd test, but is still going to be staying at home... ffs ! he could've at least gone along to the ground & supported his team mates like Williamson is doing.
Everyone's family situations are different mate, who knows why he's putting that ahead of his cricket right now (which is just his job TBH). A new baby is no joke, sometimes it goes smooth, other times you need to really be there to support your wife through it.
Fully this. I don't get why people are getting upset by it. It's good he's getting a decent and extended break from playing. Will help his longevity in the game. Hopefully he does a Jimmy Anderson!
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@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
Boult isn't going to play in the 2nd test, but is still going to be staying at home... ffs ! he could've at least gone along to the ground & supported his team mates like Williamson is doing.
Why? He spends so much time away from home in his job. Even a 'home' Plunket Shield game at Whangarei etc is a week away from home for someone from Tauranga. Why would he want to go and spend another weak away just for appearances sake? So some over-sensitive fan can see 'that he cares enough'?
Kane has one infant, and presumably 'drags' his wife and child around with him. Boult has 2 other kids presumably embedded in a routines of pre-schools etc, and a wife who's just given birth.
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@no-quarter said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
Boult isn't going to play in the 2nd test, but is still going to be staying at home... ffs ! he could've at least gone along to the ground & supported his team mates like Williamson is doing.
Everyone's family situations are different mate, who knows why he's putting that ahead of his cricket right now (which is just his job TBH). A new baby is no joke, sometimes it goes smooth, other times you need to really be there to support your wife through it.
Fair points, no one knows what is exactly going on... but the other blokes in the team have young families too, yet they all went over for the start of that England tour, which was a vital buildup for the WCTC, then a similar thing happens again, just isn't a good look, find a lot of players these days are too bloody soft.
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@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@no-quarter said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
Boult isn't going to play in the 2nd test, but is still going to be staying at home... ffs ! he could've at least gone along to the ground & supported his team mates like Williamson is doing.
Everyone's family situations are different mate, who knows why he's putting that ahead of his cricket right now (which is just his job TBH). A new baby is no joke, sometimes it goes smooth, other times you need to really be there to support your wife through it.
Fair points, no one knows what is exactly going on... but the other blokes in the team have young families too, yet they all went over for the start of that England tour, which was a vital buildup for the WCTC, then a similar thing happens again, just isn't a good look, find a lot of players these days are too bloody soft.
It isn't a good look to you only.
Nothing soft about prioritising your family. That is for sure.
I assume you are a teenager with your weak thought process on this?
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@rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
Boult isn't going to play in the 2nd test, but is still going to be staying at home... ffs ! he could've at least gone along to the ground & supported his team mates like Williamson is doing.
Why? He spends so much time away from home in his job. Even a 'home' Plunket Shield game at Whangarei etc is a week away from home for someone from Tauranga. Why would he want to go and spend another weak away just for appearances sake? So some over-sensitive fan can see 'that he cares enough'?
Kane has one infant, and presumably 'drags' his wife and child around with him. Boult has 2 other kids presumably embedded in a routines of pre-schools etc, and a wife who's just given birth.
As mentioned a lot of players are too soft... if they're worried about all the travel time they always have the option of doing a job that doesn't involve so much travel.
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@rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
Boult isn't going to play in the 2nd test, but is still going to be staying at home... ffs ! he could've at least gone along to the ground & supported his team mates like Williamson is doing.
Why? He spends so much time away from home in his job. Even a 'home' Plunket Shield game at Whangarei etc is a week away from home for someone from Tauranga. Why would he want to go and spend another weak away just for appearances sake? So some over-sensitive fan can see 'that he cares enough'?
Kane has one infant, and presumably 'drags' his wife and child around with him. Boult has 2 other kids presumably embedded in a routines of pre-schools etc, and a wife who's just given birth.
If ever there was an opportunity to extend family time, this is it. We are playing very well and just gave the saffas a pumping
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@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
Boult isn't going to play in the 2nd test, but is still going to be staying at home... ffs ! he could've at least gone along to the ground & supported his team mates like Williamson is doing.
Why? He spends so much time away from home in his job. Even a 'home' Plunket Shield game at Whangarei etc is a week away from home for someone from Tauranga. Why would he want to go and spend another weak away just for appearances sake? So some over-sensitive fan can see 'that he cares enough'?
Kane has one infant, and presumably 'drags' his wife and child around with him. Boult has 2 other kids presumably embedded in a routines of pre-schools etc, and a wife who's just given birth.
As mentioned a lot of players are too soft... if they're worried about all the travel time they always have the option of doing a job that doesn't involve so much travel.
FFS! Zero to do with being 'soft'
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@hooroo said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@no-quarter said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
Boult isn't going to play in the 2nd test, but is still going to be staying at home... ffs ! he could've at least gone along to the ground & supported his team mates like Williamson is doing.
Everyone's family situations are different mate, who knows why he's putting that ahead of his cricket right now (which is just his job TBH). A new baby is no joke, sometimes it goes smooth, other times you need to really be there to support your wife through it.
Fair points, no one knows what is exactly going on... but the other blokes in the team have young families too, yet they all went over for the start of that England tour, which was a vital buildup for the WCTC, then a similar thing happens again, just isn't a good look, find a lot of players these days are too bloody soft.
It isn't a good look to you only.
Nothing soft about prioritising your family. That is for sure.
I assume you are a teenager with your weak thought process on this?
If anyone is a teenager it's you, in fact you sound more like a 9 year old - of course it's all about looking after their families, that's an absolute given... just get sick & tired of all the pc bullshit that goes on, it gets worse every year.
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@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
Boult isn't going to play in the 2nd test, but is still going to be staying at home... ffs ! he could've at least gone along to the ground & supported his team mates like Williamson is doing.
Why? He spends so much time away from home in his job. Even a 'home' Plunket Shield game at Whangarei etc is a week away from home for someone from Tauranga. Why would he want to go and spend another weak away just for appearances sake? So some over-sensitive fan can see 'that he cares enough'?
Kane has one infant, and presumably 'drags' his wife and child around with him. Boult has 2 other kids presumably embedded in a routines of pre-schools etc, and a wife who's just given birth.
As mentioned a lot of players are too soft... if they're worried about all the travel time they always have the option of doing a job that doesn't involve so much travel.
why?
What is the cost / benefit analysis of your very well thought-out opinion?
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@rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
Boult isn't going to play in the 2nd test, but is still going to be staying at home... ffs ! he could've at least gone along to the ground & supported his team mates like Williamson is doing.
Why? He spends so much time away from home in his job. Even a 'home' Plunket Shield game at Whangarei etc is a week away from home for someone from Tauranga. Why would he want to go and spend another weak away just for appearances sake? So some over-sensitive fan can see 'that he cares enough'?
Kane has one infant, and presumably 'drags' his wife and child around with him. Boult has 2 other kids presumably embedded in a routines of pre-schools etc, and a wife who's just given birth.
As mentioned a lot of players are too soft... if they're worried about all the travel time they always have the option of doing a job that doesn't involve so much travel.
why?
What is the cost / benefit analysis of your very well thought-out opinion?
Didn't say they had to, just an option.
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@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
As mentioned a lot of players are too soft... if they're worried about all the travel time they always have the option of doing a job that doesn't involve so much travel.
I quite like the job Trent Boult does, I don't particularly want him to get a new one.
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If a player is beginning to fade in is cricket career.
fading. It is actually beneficial if
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
Boult isn't going to play in the 2nd test, but is still going to be staying at home... ffs ! he could've at least gone along to the ground & supported his team mates like Williamson is doing.
Why? He spends so much time away from home in his job. Even a 'home' Plunket Shield game at Whangarei etc is a week away from home for someone from Tauranga. Why would he want to go and spend another weak away just for appearances sake? So some over-sensitive fan can see 'that he cares enough'?
Kane has one infant, and presumably 'drags' his wife and child around with him. Boult has 2 other kids presumably embedded in a routines of pre-schools etc, and a wife who's just given birth.
As mentioned a lot of players are too soft... if they're worried about all the travel time they always have the option of doing a job that doesn't involve so much travel.
why?
What is the cost / benefit analysis of your very well thought-out opinion?
Didn't say they had to, just an option.
What would be the benefit to you, the team, fans, or Boult of him taking that option?
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lol we get a real man's man here lads
jesus what a Neanderthal way of thinking
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@canefan said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
Boult isn't going to play in the 2nd test, but is still going to be staying at home... ffs ! he could've at least gone along to the ground & supported his team mates like Williamson is doing.
Why? He spends so much time away from home in his job. Even a 'home' Plunket Shield game at Whangarei etc is a week away from home for someone from Tauranga. Why would he want to go and spend another weak away just for appearances sake? So some over-sensitive fan can see 'that he cares enough'?
Kane has one infant, and presumably 'drags' his wife and child around with him. Boult has 2 other kids presumably embedded in a routines of pre-schools etc, and a wife who's just given birth.
If ever there was an opportunity to extend family time, this is it. We are playing very well and just gave the saffas a pumping
If he asks to miss the Netherlands ODI series and show up late to the England tour in order to play a full IPL then that may be taking the piss a little much given he missed four of the last six tests (five if you count the first Bangles test where it is debatable who showed up!).
That said Williamson, Conway, Southee, Mitchell and Boult would be away from NZ from as early as late March (if given the Netherlands series off) until mid July between the IPL, England and Ireland series. Next summer is endless too with two world cups bookending the summer and an away tour to Pakistan... So NZC have to be realistic about balancing the schedule those who are getting older and reluctant to tour constantly.
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@rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@canefan said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
@nzbloke said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:
Boult isn't going to play in the 2nd test, but is still going to be staying at home... ffs ! he could've at least gone along to the ground & supported his team mates like Williamson is doing.
Why? He spends so much time away from home in his job. Even a 'home' Plunket Shield game at Whangarei etc is a week away from home for someone from Tauranga. Why would he want to go and spend another weak away just for appearances sake? So some over-sensitive fan can see 'that he cares enough'?
Kane has one infant, and presumably 'drags' his wife and child around with him. Boult has 2 other kids presumably embedded in a routines of pre-schools etc, and a wife who's just given birth.
If ever there was an opportunity to extend family time, this is it. We are playing very well and just gave the saffas a pumping
If he asks to miss the Netherlands ODI series and show up late to the England tour in order to play a full IPL then that may be taking the piss a little much given he missed four of the last six tests (five if you count the first Bangles test where it is debatable who showed up!).
That said Williamson, Conway, Southee, Mitchell and Boult would be away from NZ from as early as late March (if given the Netherlands series off) until mid July between the IPL, England and Ireland series. Next summer is endless too with two world cups bookending the summer and an away tour to Pakistan... So NZC have to be realistic about balancing the schedule those who are getting older and reluctant to tour constantly.
Covid19 makes it harder too. Less chance to duck home for a while. Although hopefully that will change very soon