internet/streaming
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Chorus should have started their customer network speed upgrades today, with end users starting to see the difference from 5am tomorrow morning. Should be done by the 1st of December. 100/20 plans are being upgraded to 300/100.
https://sp.chorus.co.nz/inflight-projects/future-fibre-review
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@tim that's for wholesalers. There is a slide there that explains how ISPs will need to change their throughput for the customers to see the upgrade. I've seen nothing from my ISP to suggest that they will be doing this. They could continue to throttle at 100 on existing plans and offer the 300 as a new product.
Also note that if your isp supplied modem has 100 ethernet ports you will throttled at that point.Will be watching to see though.
EDIT: After reading that a bit closer it appears that if ISPs adjust their network protocols to take advantage then they will flow through to all subscribers. They won't be able to have some on one speed and some on another.
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@crucial Hopefully they make the small change soon! Although I am sure they will try to sign as many people up to higher bandwidth plans, or higher margin (for them) shitty 4G plans, while they can.
Saw this at geekzone:
Just received an email from Vodafone's Jason Paris about the upgrade & he said that
"The plan is to pass this through to the customers in the new year free of charge. Timing of the tech change is yet to be landed."
I spoke to a contractor, who works with Chorus, who reckoned that Spark will make the adjustment. No word on timing, of course.
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One small clarification as well. It will be the Service Provider rather than the retailer that needs to change and when it does the benefits will flow to all of those retail arms. Therefore it will be the middle man calling the shots not your retailer.
eg if you buy your plan from Spark or Voda they will be the ISP and retailer. Ours is in a package with our power and gas with the power company retailing it from an ISP that supplies many retailers.
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Signed up for a week's free trial of Shudder to watch It Follows.
First up, no chromecast support from the browser. Watching it on my 60 Hz laptop screen the motion looks terrible, but guess it's the long, slow panning shots filmed at 24 fps and displayed at 60 Hz. Nope, looks awful on their Android TV app on my 120 Hz TV too. Think it must be poorly converted to 30fps.
Load up an illegitimate stream blu-ray rip on laptop to check - looks fine. Cancel Shudder subscription.
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The quality of internet in the third world countries to be poor.
First result = 4G at my front door step.
Second = 4G at my kitchen bench.
(The difference between these two results is explained by the steel roofing)
Third = Wifi using my NBN 50/20. Yeah right.
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Just did an upgrade to my mesh system to take advantage of the Chorus boosting of fibre speeds. Thought I'd describe it in case anyone else is in the same position.
I had set up using the budget end Tp-link Deco system (E4) which was only different in that the ethernet ports on the modules was limited to 100Mbps. For a few years that wasn't an issue as that was the top end of the fibre plan we were on and served things well.
With the fibre boost being rolled out we now have 300Mbps coming into the house (good eh @NTA ?)
The beauty of the deco system is that you can mix up hardware easily so I got a single M$ unit and made that the main unit (with the ethernet connection). The M4 has 1000Mbps ports.
As the wifi capability of both the E4 and M4 is the same and the backhaul is no longer restricted to 100 I am now getting close to 300/100 all through the house. Great for WFH and uploading files.For once a hardware company is making things work with older/cheaper product and saving waste and money.
Not sure how it will work with other brands but this was a breeze.
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@crucial I got Deco on your recommendation a couple of years ago. All I did was plug it in and I get between 500-700Mbps. About once every 3-4 months it seems to shit itself and I lose wireless but a reboot fixes it.
So if I haven't already done so thanks for the tip.
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@dogmeat said in internet/streaming:
@crucial I got Deco on your recommendation a couple of years ago. All I did was plug it in and I get between 500-700Mbps. About once every 3-4 months it seems to shit itself and I lose wireless but a reboot fixes it.
So if I haven't already done so thanks for the tip.
You obviously got the better model to start with!
Are you rebooting your router/modem or the main deco unit?
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@dogmeat said in internet/streaming:
@crucial router
So the issue may just be there/the connection to the ONT. Most like just the statndard old reboot the router to clear things. Sounds like the Deco network is fine.
They really do seem to be a good piece of kit don't they.I was thinking this morning while doing my upgrade just how quickly things have changed in about 5 years and how (with the constant being our house) we have gone from VDSL at about 20 (soon thereafter fixed to about 35) and wifi being average away from one area of the house to a standard plan being 300/100 and a plug and play wifi network that carries the strong signal all around the property. Outdoor cameras, wifi enabled watering systems that I can monitor when away, no TV aerials or satellite dishes etc etc
And I'm only on the cheapest plans. Tech eh?It really wasn't that long ago when streaming started in earnest and you'd watch a movie in SD hoping that the play didn't catch up with the download? Or you'd download movies late at night so that the missus wouldn't complain about slow internet?
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@crucial yeah same. I've probably mentioned this just a few posts above but it's the Fern so why check.
I remember hosting a business breakfast with head of Spark as guest speaker. He bragged about the benefits of being boss meaning he got 100Mbps at his home and you could literally hear a collective drawing in of breath by the audience; shocked that such crazy speeds were attainable.
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@crucial said in internet/streaming:
So the issue may just be there/the connection to the ONT. Most like just the statndard old reboot the router to clear things. Sounds like the Deco network is fine.
I've got a Google Wifi Mesh, and it is great but every now and then the master unit loses track of the 2 nodes.
Google said the logs are showing a dual-NAT issue between the Google master (which is a router) and my modem/router (Fritz!Box 7490 connecting the VDSL).
I'm not sure that is the case - the router is operating a different subnet to the Mesh units to start with, and the Master unit still supplies perfectly good wifi to the outside world. Therefore the NAT should never cross over.
Anyway I just power off everything and power it back on, sorted in under 5 minutes. Small price to pay for great in-house connection.
Apparently our suburb is getting Fibre soon. The good news there is I can keep the modem I've got. Quite like the Fritz.
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@nta said in internet/streaming:
@crucial said in internet/streaming:
So the issue may just be there/the connection to the ONT. Most like just the statndard old reboot the router to clear things. Sounds like the Deco network is fine.
I've got a Google Wifi Mesh, and it is great but every now and then the master unit loses track of the 2 nodes.
Google said the logs are showing a dual-NAT issue between the Google master (which is a router) and my modem/router (Fritz!Box 7490 connecting the VDSL).
I'm not sure that is the case - the router is operating a different subnet to the Mesh units to start with, and the Master unit still supplies perfectly good wifi to the outside world. Therefore the NAT should never cross over.
Anyway I just power off everything and power it back on, sorted in under 5 minutes. Small price to pay for great in-house connection.
Apparently our suburb is getting Fibre soon. The good news there is I can keep the modem I've got. Quite like the Fritz.
You still don't have fibre? WTF.
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@nepia said in internet/streaming:
You still don't have fibre? WTF.
Didn't you hear? Malcolm and the Libs said we'd never need those sorts of speeds everywhere.
1990s Internet was good for Ozemail, so it's good for everyone.
NBN looking to open FttN upgrade orders in March 2022
Although the company has announced another 200,000 more premises are eligible for an FttN upgrade, orders are expected to be opened in March.
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@nepia said in internet/streaming:
@nta said in internet/streaming:
@crucial said in internet/streaming:
So the issue may just be there/the connection to the ONT. Most like just the statndard old reboot the router to clear things. Sounds like the Deco network is fine.
I've got a Google Wifi Mesh, and it is great but every now and then the master unit loses track of the 2 nodes.
Google said the logs are showing a dual-NAT issue between the Google master (which is a router) and my modem/router (Fritz!Box 7490 connecting the VDSL).
I'm not sure that is the case - the router is operating a different subnet to the Mesh units to start with, and the Master unit still supplies perfectly good wifi to the outside world. Therefore the NAT should never cross over.
Anyway I just power off everything and power it back on, sorted in under 5 minutes. Small price to pay for great in-house connection.
Apparently our suburb is getting Fibre soon. The good news there is I can keep the modem I've got. Quite like the Fritz.
You still don't have fibre? WTF.
I think he has FTTN? Isn't that right @NTA ?
Like having a motorway nearby with a single track dirt road leading to it.
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@crucial said in internet/streaming:
@nepia said in internet/streaming:
@nta said in internet/streaming:
@crucial said in internet/streaming:
So the issue may just be there/the connection to the ONT. Most like just the statndard old reboot the router to clear things. Sounds like the Deco network is fine.
I've got a Google Wifi Mesh, and it is great but every now and then the master unit loses track of the 2 nodes.
Google said the logs are showing a dual-NAT issue between the Google master (which is a router) and my modem/router (Fritz!Box 7490 connecting the VDSL).
I'm not sure that is the case - the router is operating a different subnet to the Mesh units to start with, and the Master unit still supplies perfectly good wifi to the outside world. Therefore the NAT should never cross over.
Anyway I just power off everything and power it back on, sorted in under 5 minutes. Small price to pay for great in-house connection.
Apparently our suburb is getting Fibre soon. The good news there is I can keep the modem I've got. Quite like the Fritz.
You still don't have fibre? WTF.
I think he has FTTN? Isn't that right @NTA ?
Like having a motorway nearby with a single track dirt road leading to it.
Correct - VDSL. Which in my bro-in-law's case means he can get 95/40 but I get 25/7.
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@nta said in internet/streaming:
@crucial said in internet/streaming:
@nepia said in internet/streaming:
@nta said in internet/streaming:
@crucial said in internet/streaming:
So the issue may just be there/the connection to the ONT. Most like just the statndard old reboot the router to clear things. Sounds like the Deco network is fine.
I've got a Google Wifi Mesh, and it is great but every now and then the master unit loses track of the 2 nodes.
Google said the logs are showing a dual-NAT issue between the Google master (which is a router) and my modem/router (Fritz!Box 7490 connecting the VDSL).
I'm not sure that is the case - the router is operating a different subnet to the Mesh units to start with, and the Master unit still supplies perfectly good wifi to the outside world. Therefore the NAT should never cross over.
Anyway I just power off everything and power it back on, sorted in under 5 minutes. Small price to pay for great in-house connection.
Apparently our suburb is getting Fibre soon. The good news there is I can keep the modem I've got. Quite like the Fritz.
You still don't have fibre? WTF.
I think he has FTTN? Isn't that right @NTA ?
Like having a motorway nearby with a single track dirt road leading to it.
Correct - VDSL. Which in my bro-in-law's case means he can get 95/40 but I get 25/7.
Cos you still have a copper feeder to the node and copper is so 1900s.
