Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@jc said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
The worst thing about Covid, the absolute worst, is that I haven’t been able to maintain my Elite Airpoints status using only internal flights. What were they thinking?
I've had to rely on the banked years Air NZ have been handing out, very disappointing.
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Sure the country's economy will be in ruins, but we protected those 5 or 10% non-vaccinated peeps right?
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Yeah the only people these pending new rules are good for is permanent returnees and those wishing to travel overseas from NZ. Stoked for my parents who can now start looking at coming over for my bro's wedding in July, not so great for any of us wanting to visit NZ in the next year. I'm not wanting to fuck about isolating for 7 days, what a farce.
Someone asked about isolating with parents etc? I thought it was that they don't have to isolate with you, unless you test positive.
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@bones said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Yeah the only people these pending new rules are good for is permanent returnees and those wishing to travel overseas from NZ. Stoked for my parents who can now start looking at coming over for my bro's wedding in July, not so great for any of us wanting to visit NZ in the next year. I'm not wanting to fuck about isolating for 7 days, what a farce.
Someone asked about isolating with parents etc? I thought it was that they don't have to isolate with you, unless you test positive.
True.
However, given the propaganda message do you think anybody in NZ will want to see you without the qt anyway? You are just infected filth to them, remember.
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@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
do you think anybody in NZ will want to see you
No change then.
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@jc as per @Godder @muddyriver Air NZ just keep rolling it over. I only did two flights last year. That's the least I would have done since before most of you were born and I wouldn't describe myself as a regular traveller pre Covid <20 flights a year
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@bones said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Yeah the only people these pending new rules are good for is .... those wishing to travel overseas from NZ.
and your issue is
I'm hopeful these rules will be relaxed significantly once the initial omicron wave washes over us so you guys can get back to visit your whanau.
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The Spinoff do a daily update using mainly MoH data. Given that I don't know wht the Ministry's advice (presumably) has been so conservative.
I think this one shows how effective lockdowns have been - plus how little time we have actually been locked down - comparatively
some other graphs I found interesting;
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Sure the country's economy will be in ruins, but we protected those 5 or 10% non-vaccinated peeps right?
We haven't reached 80% yet - currently 3,967,611 out of 5,126,300 NZers = 77.4% are fully vaccinated.
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@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Sure the country's economy will be in ruins, but we protected those 5 or 10% non-vaccinated peeps right?
We haven't reached 80% yet - currently 3,967,611 out of 5,126,300 NZers = 77.4% are fully vaccinated.
Is that total Population? We are at 90% over 12 years though aren't we?
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@hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Sure the country's economy will be in ruins, but we protected those 5 or 10% non-vaccinated peeps right?
We haven't reached 80% yet - currently 3,967,611 out of 5,126,300 NZers = 77.4% are fully vaccinated.
Is that total Population? We are at 90% over 12 years though aren't we?
It says right there on the chart..'eligible population'
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@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Sure the country's economy will be in ruins, but we protected those 5 or 10% non-vaccinated peeps right?
We haven't reached 80% yet - currently 3,967,611 out of 5,126,300 NZers = 77.4% are fully vaccinated.
Is that total Population? We are at 90% over 12 years though aren't we?
It says right there on the chart..'eligible population'
I'm being typically dense, which chart has @godder 5,126,300?? I thought that was our total pop?
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@muddyriver said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan the old and immuno compromised are still who we're protecting.
Unvaxxed are largely younger not necessarily healthy. Youth is the single biggest factor of survival not vaccination status.
yeah, just on this
My father in law has got it at the moment. We always assumed he would be in trouble if/when he got it, an overweight guy in his 70s with a laundry list of health issues. He should have been right in Covid's wheelhouse
He's been no more sick than me. The MIL is in the same house and is still covid-free.
Get your fucking shots and this is not something to worry about.
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@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@bones said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Yeah the only people these pending new rules are good for is permanent returnees and those wishing to travel overseas from NZ. Stoked for my parents who can now start looking at coming over for my bro's wedding in July, not so great for any of us wanting to visit NZ in the next year. I'm not wanting to fuck about isolating for 7 days, what a farce.
Someone asked about isolating with parents etc? I thought it was that they don't have to isolate with you, unless you test positive.
True.
However, given the propaganda message do you think anybody in NZ will want to see you without the qt anyway? You are just infected filth to them, remember.
To be fair, Bones was considered to be infected filth well before the pandemic.
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@hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Sure the country's economy will be in ruins, but we protected those 5 or 10% non-vaccinated peeps right?
We haven't reached 80% yet - currently 3,967,611 out of 5,126,300 NZers = 77.4% are fully vaccinated.
Is that total Population? We are at 90% over 12 years though aren't we?
It says right there on the chart..'eligible population'
I'm being typically dense, which chart has @godder 5,126,300?? I thought that was our total pop?
Yeah sorry, @Godder is showing the perspective of total population while the charts posted are 'eligible'.
Godders point is that the govt isn't necessarily pandering to a small number of unvaccinated. I guess it is 5-10% of eligible plus children.
The total at risk of hospitalisation is something like 'Rate of child hospitalisation x population of under 12s' + 'Rate of unvaccinated hospitalisation x eligible' + 'rate of vaccinated hospitalisation x eligible'
Small % of a sizable number + larger % of a largish number + small % of a very large number
Add it all together and you can see why the vaccinated will carry the burden of reducing hospital admissions by reducing the % through boosters. It will have the most effect and will be the easiest to implement.
Question I have is that is 'slowing the spread' ends up stalling the rate, how long do we plan on continuing like that as the virus still wants to spread. Do we loosen things up and try and increase the spread or is there some kind of sustainable balance between restrictions and rate?
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@muddyriver said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan the old and immuno compromised are still who we're protecting.
Unvaxxed are largely younger not necessarily healthy. Youth is the single biggest factor of survival not vaccination status.
yeah, just on this
My father in law has got it at the moment. We always assumed he would be in trouble if/when he got it, an overweight guy in his 70s with a laundry list of health issues. He should have been right in Covid's wheelhouse
He's been no more sick than me. The MIL is in the same house and is still covid-free.
Get your fucking shots and this is not something to worry about.
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