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    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

    THe assistants havent been re-appointed yet have they?

    The review should be finished by February I heard.

    Hopefully it leads to one of Jason O'Halloran or Nick Evans replacing Brad Mooar with our attack and then someone such as Clarke Dermody or Jono Gibbes taking over from John Plumtree with the forwards. Ideally, Scott McLeod needs to go as well, much too passive defense. John Plumtree's a mediocre forwards coach, however, he's always been an excellent defense coach. Should've been his position from the very beginning.

    So basically everyone needs to go apart from the head coach?

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

    THe assistants havent been re-appointed yet have they?

    The review should be finished by February I heard.

    Hopefully it leads to one of Jason O'Halloran or Nick Evans replacing Brad Mooar with our attack and then someone such as Clarke Dermody or Jono Gibbes taking over from John Plumtree with the forwards. Ideally, Scott McLeod needs to go as well, much too passive defense. John Plumtree's a mediocre forwards coach, however, he's always been an excellent defense coach. Should've been his position from the very beginning.

    So basically everyone needs to go apart from the head coach?

    Do we know how much leverage Foster had/has in choosing his assistants?

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    #3066

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

    THe assistants havent been re-appointed yet have they?

    The review should be finished by February I heard.

    Hopefully it leads to one of Jason O'Halloran or Nick Evans replacing Brad Mooar with our attack and then someone such as Clarke Dermody or Jono Gibbes taking over from John Plumtree with the forwards. Ideally, Scott McLeod needs to go as well, much too passive defense. John Plumtree's a mediocre forwards coach, however, he's always been an excellent defense coach. Should've been his position from the very beginning.

    So basically everyone needs to go apart from the head coach?

    Foster's contract has already been extended, the others haven't.

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    #3067

    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

    THe assistants havent been re-appointed yet have they?

    The review should be finished by February I heard.

    Hopefully it leads to one of Jason O'Halloran or Nick Evans replacing Brad Mooar with our attack and then someone such as Clarke Dermody or Jono Gibbes taking over from John Plumtree with the forwards. Ideally, Scott McLeod needs to go as well, much too passive defense. John Plumtree's a mediocre forwards coach, however, he's always been an excellent defense coach. Should've been his position from the very beginning.

    So basically everyone needs to go apart from the head coach?

    Do we know how much leverage Foster had/has in choosing his assistants?

    Desperately reaching for further excuses for him I see? The individual's own choice of assistants was a massive part of the application process.

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    #3068

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

    THe assistants havent been re-appointed yet have they?

    The review should be finished by February I heard.

    Hopefully it leads to one of Jason O'Halloran or Nick Evans replacing Brad Mooar with our attack and then someone such as Clarke Dermody or Jono Gibbes taking over from John Plumtree with the forwards. Ideally, Scott McLeod needs to go as well, much too passive defense. John Plumtree's a mediocre forwards coach, however, he's always been an excellent defense coach. Should've been his position from the very beginning.

    So basically everyone needs to go apart from the head coach?

    Do we know how much leverage Foster had/has in choosing his assistants?

    Desperatly searching for more excuses for Foster? The choice of assistants was a huge part of the applications process & solely his decision.

    Only someone who didn't bother to read the question could come to that conclusion

    We'll take it that you have no idea how much leverage Foster has in choosing his assistants then.

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    #3069

    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

    THe assistants havent been re-appointed yet have they?

    The review should be finished by February I heard.

    Hopefully it leads to one of Jason O'Halloran or Nick Evans replacing Brad Mooar with our attack and then someone such as Clarke Dermody or Jono Gibbes taking over from John Plumtree with the forwards. Ideally, Scott McLeod needs to go as well, much too passive defense. John Plumtree's a mediocre forwards coach, however, he's always been an excellent defense coach. Should've been his position from the very beginning.

    So basically everyone needs to go apart from the head coach?

    Do we know how much leverage Foster had/has in choosing his assistants?

    Desperatly searching for more excuses for Foster? The choice of assistants was a huge part of the applications process & solely his decision.

    We'll take it that you have no idea how much leverage Foster has in choosing his assistants then.

    So I take it you don't recall Brett Impey outlining the process in the media? ie 'show us your team'

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    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

    THe assistants havent been re-appointed yet have they?

    The review should be finished by February I heard.

    Hopefully it leads to one of Jason O'Halloran or Nick Evans replacing Brad Mooar with our attack and then someone such as Clarke Dermody or Jono Gibbes taking over from John Plumtree with the forwards. Ideally, Scott McLeod needs to go as well, much too passive defense. John Plumtree's a mediocre forwards coach, however, he's always been an excellent defense coach. Should've been his position from the very beginning.

    So basically everyone needs to go apart from the head coach?

    Do we know how much leverage Foster had/has in choosing his assistants?

    Desperatly searching for more excuses for Foster? The choice of assistants was a huge part of the applications process & solely his decision.

    We'll take it that you have no idea how much leverage Foster has in choosing his assistants then.

    So I take it you don't recall Brett Impey outlining the process in the media? ie 'show us your team'

    Obviously not, as I wouldn't have asked.

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    replied to Victor Meldrew on last edited by kiwi_expat
    #3071

    Don't you get tired of manufacturing dishonest reasons for absolving Foster of any accountability?

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    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    Don't you ever get tired of manufacturing dishonest reasons as for absolving Foster of any accountability?

    Obviously not, as I don't "manufacture dishonest reasons as for absolving Foster of any accountability"

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    #3073

    Somehow this ended up in the wrong thread.

    Where is the New Zealand team from the 2016 World Rugby Under 20 Championship?

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    Where is the New Zealand team from the 2016 World Rugby Under 20 Championship?

    Wasn't that the one where we didn't even make the play-offs?

    I blame Foster (or Deans).

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    replied to Victor Meldrew on last edited by Dan54
    #3075

    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    Where is the New Zealand team from the 2016 World Rugby Under 20 Championship?

    Wasn't that the one where we didn't even make the play-offs?

    I blame Foster (or Deans).

    Shhh Victor we aren't to talk about when Razor took U20 team to a 5th place finish in WC, imagine if an AB coach did same thing!!!!

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    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

    THe assistants havent been re-appointed yet have they?

    The review should be finished by February I heard.

    Hopefully it leads to one of Jason O'Halloran or Nick Evans replacing Brad Mooar with our attack and then someone such as Clarke Dermody or Jono Gibbes taking over from John Plumtree with the forwards. Ideally, Scott McLeod needs to go as well, much too passive defense. John Plumtree's a mediocre forwards coach, however, he's always been an excellent defense coach. Should've been his position from the very beginning.

    So basically everyone needs to go apart from the head coach?

    Foster's contract has already been extended, the others haven't.

    Not sure how that works if the coach selects his own assistants actually. I know they do as Razor approached Tony Brown to stand as his assistant, but he declined. So as I say I not sure if the coach says this is who I want, or this is who I will have!

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    @dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:

    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    Where is the New Zealand team from the 2016 World Rugby Under 20 Championship?

    Wasn't that the one where we didn't even make the play-offs?

    I blame Foster (or Deans).

    Shhh Victor we aren't to talk about when Razor took U20 team to a 5th place finish in WC, imagine if an AB coach did same thing!!!!

    It's like the AB-France QF in 2007. Didn't happen.

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    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:

    @dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:

    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    Where is the New Zealand team from the 2016 World Rugby Under 20 Championship?

    Wasn't that the one where we didn't even make the play-offs?

    I blame Foster (or Deans).

    Shhh Victor we aren't to talk about when Razor took U20 team to a 5th place finish in WC, imagine if an AB coach did same thing!!!!

    It's like the AB-France QF in 2007. Didn't happen.

    Did we play France in 2007? 🙉🙈

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:

    @dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:

    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    Where is the New Zealand team from the 2016 World Rugby Under 20 Championship?

    Wasn't that the one where we didn't even make the play-offs?

    I blame Foster (or Deans).

    Shhh Victor we aren't to talk about when Razor took U20 team to a 5th place finish in WC, imagine if an AB coach did same thing!!!!

    It's like the AB-France QF in 2007. Didn't happen.

    Did we play France in 2007? 🙉🙈

    Nope. And Foster didn't coach the U20 side in 2016.

    (Hint: Only one statement is correct)

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    #3080

    @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

    @nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:

    @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

    @nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:

    you mean here you moan again.

    No I mean more sanctimoniousness dribble.

    If anyone is talking verbal diarrhoea it's you.

    You tend to think the sun shines out of Foster... so what has he actually added to the team of any value then ?

    When have I ever said that ,
    Read my posts I have smashed Foster for 2 years .
    I have been one of his biggest critics.

    So more crap from you yet again.

    My fault on that one... have been pretty knackered over the last couple of weeks working through to about 10pm most nights or longer signwriting & doing airbrush custom car work, so I'll take that on the chin, fair enough.

    It amazes me though how some here hardly ever question this current coaching staff - anyone that knows their rugby properly can see where we are going wrong & can also see what adjustments need to be made to fix it.
    We all know if your forwards get on top of the other sides forwards you basically control the whole game, we were shocking in the forwards against Ireland & France, especially in our poor execution of taking the ball up through the phases, whereas the other two teams forward packs did the hard yakka in that very crucial area of the game, so we spent most of our time on the back foot... even though our backs were getting a shite platform from the blokes up front it's mainly on our 9 & 10 to read the game well showing good decision making & execute accurately.

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    replied to get stuffed on last edited by Hooroo
    #3081

    @nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:

    @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

    @nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:

    @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

    @nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:

    you mean here you moan again.

    No I mean more sanctimoniousness dribble.

    If anyone is talking verbal diarrhoea it's you.

    You tend to think the sun shines out of Foster... so what has he actually added to the team of any value then ?

    When have I ever said that ,
    Read my posts I have smashed Foster for 2 years .
    I have been one of his biggest critics.

    So more crap from you yet again.

    It amazes me though how some here hardly ever question this current coaching staff - anyone that knows their rugby properly can see where we are going wrong & can also see what adjustments need to be made to fix it.

    This whole forum criticises the current set up. Maybe one or two have slightly defended him but not really. Your comment makes no sense in this environment.

    Even the Waikato and Chiefs supporters are saying he shouldn't be there.

    This isn't Cantabs defending the Deans dross, this is a united front against Foster for the most.

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    @nzbloke based on previous replies i can only assume you've mistaken the fern for another forum

    anyone backing fozzie would very much be in the minority

    Those like @kiwi_expat are only focusing on the assistants as fozzie's contract has already been extended and the assistants are currently being reviewed

    Theyre not going to sack fozzie until he's at least played more games

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    @nzbloke said in All Blacks 2021:

    It amazes me though how some here hardly ever question this current coaching staff

    TBF, I haven't seen that. There's obvious disagreements on the root causes of the current problems and what should be done but I haven't seen anyone say everything is OK in the garden.

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