Klitschko, Fury, Parker, Takam & Joshua
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<p>I contemplated streaming it as $50 was way too rich for my blood, but I ended up getting too excited about the match and paranoid I wouldn't get a decent stream then my brother offered to go halves with me so figured it was worth it then. Glad I did it was a terrific bout, far better than any of the previous ones I had watched. The undercard's weren't great but did offer a few laughs when that bloke went to celebrate what he thought was a knockout by climbing and then falling from the ropes. One of the undercard results seemed like a complete farce, the winner agreed and gave a pretty awkward interview straight after saying he didn't win.</p>
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<p>Is filming your TV screen really copying? Can see a good legal argument there.</p>
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<p>Sure, if it is in your T&Cs with the broadcaster that you can't film it then fair enough, but I suspect it just says copy.</p>
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<p>loads of people do this and share clips on FB...I guess it isn't live streamed is probably the key difference, but they are still 'copying' the content?</p> -
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<p>loads of people do this and share clips on FB...I guess it isn't live streamed is probably the key difference, but they are still 'copying' the content?</p>
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<p>Off the top of my head I think the scenario described (of filming your TV set and broadcasting it over FB) would fall into a really grey area not described in the Copyright Act.</p>
<p>Live streaming itself is not copying, I don't break the act if I watch a stream of a TV show, but I do if I download a copy or share that copy further. Whether the person filming and 'broadcasting' their TV set without making a copy is breaking the law I have no idea.</p> -
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<p>I'm usually anti-streaming, but someone sent me a link so I watched it.</p>
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<p>I'm shocked... SHOCKED....</p>
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<p><span style="font-size:8px;">.......that you didn't pass it on!</span></p> -
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<p>Parker is small. He needs more beef to bang.<br><br>
His arms are short and his jab was ineffectual against a fighter with a proper reach.<br><br>
His defence is now so questionable you have to wonder if Barry is a capable coach.<br><br>
His tank is not good for 6 rounds let alone 12.<br><br>
He struggled in close and you could see the size and strenth of Takam was wearing him down too easily.<br><br>
Thats the negative out of the way.<br><br>
He has a chin. Solid taken some heavy hits. Never looked shaky or confused/spaced. Very good sign. Joshua has a questionable chin.<br><br>
He is still too quick for everyone hes come up against. There were a few shots Takam took, reeled back from and before he could think about that shot he was hit my 2 more.<br><br>
He is strong. Not so much with the punches but he threw Takam across the ring at one stage. If he can use that in the clinch and smothering guys on the ropes he'd be able to wear guys down more easily without exerting so much energy.<br><br>
His off the ropes counter punching was very good. Excellent in some exchanges.<br><br>
His heart. He got through his toughest test not because hes a prodigy but because he wanted it more than Takam. It was a war and he won it outright. He was tested in every area and he still won. Fairly. He was the winner, no controversy, he won fair and square.<br><br>
The future.<br><br>
I saw today that Solomon Haumono is claiming hes fighting JP next. Strange if true. A bit risky IMO. SH is a knock out artist and could seriously fuck up JPs cred if he gets lucky. However SH is 40 and not actually that great of a boxer. Funny though as I reckon this may just be the Aussie media reaching. Trying to get in on the hype.<br><br>
Barry should be commended for getting him this far but JP needs a coach that can give him defence. Its been apparent for a while now that hes lacking and open to an over hand left or right. He carries his hands far too low and doesnt tuck his chin in. Fast guys will often carry their hands low but he leaves his chin out there. Not good at all.<br><br>
He needs to get away from NZ and fight some guys in the US away from the hype machine here in NZ. Too easy a road fighting at home. I know its about bank and home court advantage and you could argue no other fighters give away that advantage. But i think its the difference in being an also ran and being a real champ. Go out of you comfort zone and win where no one knows you. Box to get better not to just get paid.<br><br>
Dont imagine Duco would let that happen unfortunately. Theyll ride this kid into he ground. Cheapen his rep by holding more pressers in burger joints. Ahh im digressing....<br><br>
Its crazy you know, all of this stuff surrounding a 24yo on the verge of super stardom. Lets just hope he gets there.<br><br><br><br>
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<p>Great post Raz despite a couple of contradictions.</p>
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<p>He does look a bit short on reach for a tall guy to the naked eye but the interweb confirms both have a reach of 193cm ?</p> -
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<p>Happy for you to point out the contradictions..<br><br>
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<p>Just re-read it....as you were apart from one thing.....</p>
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Hes not got real knock out power but he has overall strength. Legs are solid and his brute strength is good. Boxing can be about leaning on the other guy when you are tired. Limiting their work to trying to get your body off them. It uses a lot of energy but can give the guy exerting the weight a breather. Its an attribute Parker could have used more in his career and hopefully will learn from. But as to his punching power (which I thought he had plenty of) its good-ish. He needs to put on at least another 5-6kgs of muscle across the chest and arms especially. <br><br>
Some will say he will lose speed and itll be more weight to carry on defense(not that he carries them high now anyway) but he'll have dynamite in his punchs.<br><br>
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<p>Hes not got real knock out power but he has overall strength. Legs are solid and his brute strength is good. Boxing can be about leaning on the other guy when you are tired. Limiting their work to trying to get your body off them. It uses a lot of energy but can give the guy exerting the weight a breather. Its an attribute Parker could have used more in his career and hopefully will learn from. But as to his punching power (which I thought he had plenty of) its good-ish. He needs to put on at least another 5-6kgs of muscle across the chest and arms especially.<br><br>
Some will say he will lose speed and itll be more weight to carry on defense(not that he carries them high now anyway) but he'll have dynamite in his punchs.<br><br>
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<p>They're sometimes mutually exclusive.....Ali hit very very fast but not especially hard compared to other bangers of his era like Foreman/Shavers/Liston. Could the punching ( Parkers ) also be down to technique too ?</p> -
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<p>After a combo is thrown he just stands there , flat footed , chin up , hands down , </p>
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Rumors circulating that it may suit Joshua to fight Joe sooner rather than later . <br><br>
With potential fights against fury , haye and wilder on the horizon with nothing set in stone , they may consider the mandatory first to get it out of the way . -
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<p>Rumors circulating that it may suit Joshua to fight Joe sooner rather than later .<br><br>
With potential fights against fury , haye and wilder on the horizon with nothing set in stone , they may consider the mandatory first to get it out of the way .</p>
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