Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So New Zealand has hard shut it's borders again - due to Omicron cases in the MIQ.
The lottery system has been turned off.
I fucking hate you Ardern. Like I've never ever hated anybody before.
Any indication for how long?
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So New Zealand has hard shut it's borders again - due to Omicron cases in the MIQ.
The lottery system has been turned off.
I fucking hate you Ardern. Like I've never ever hated anybody before.
Any indication for how long?
No. None at all. Nothing.
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@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So New Zealand has hard shut it's borders again - due to Omicron cases in the MIQ.
The lottery system has been turned off.
I fucking hate you Ardern. Like I've never ever hated anybody before.
Any indication for how long?
No. None at all. Nothing.
And gutlessly, they've done it via faceless MBIE social media accounts/websites.
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@smudge said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So New Zealand has hard shut it's borders again - due to Omicron cases in the MIQ.
The lottery system has been turned off.
I fucking hate you Ardern. Like I've never ever hated anybody before.
Any indication for how long?
No. None at all. Nothing.
And gutlessly, they've done it via faceless MBIE social media accounts/websites.
Useless fluffybunnies.
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@smudge said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So New Zealand has hard shut it's borders again - due to Omicron cases in the MIQ.
The lottery system has been turned off.
I fucking hate you Ardern. Like I've never ever hated anybody before.
Any indication for how long?
No. None at all. Nothing.
And gutlessly, they've done it via faceless MBIE social media accounts/websites.
WEll, it's not like Tova or Suzanne were going to hold them to account anyway.
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@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@smudge said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So New Zealand has hard shut it's borders again - due to Omicron cases in the MIQ.
The lottery system has been turned off.
I fucking hate you Ardern. Like I've never ever hated anybody before.
Any indication for how long?
No. None at all. Nothing.
And gutlessly, they've done it via faceless MBIE social media accounts/websites.
WEll, it's not like Tova or Suzanne were going to hold them to account anyway.
Particularly Tova, seeing as she's left Newshub... (but can't start her new job yet) https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300496408/mediaworks-radio-show-launch-hinges-on-outcome-of-tova-obriens-employment-case
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@smudge said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@smudge said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So New Zealand has hard shut it's borders again - due to Omicron cases in the MIQ.
The lottery system has been turned off.
I fucking hate you Ardern. Like I've never ever hated anybody before.
Any indication for how long?
No. None at all. Nothing.
And gutlessly, they've done it via faceless MBIE social media accounts/websites.
WEll, it's not like Tova or Suzanne were going to hold them to account anyway.
Particularly Tova, seeing as she's left Newshub... (but can't start her new job yet) https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300496408/mediaworks-radio-show-launch-hinges-on-outcome-of-tova-obriens-employment-case
Probably helps explain why I've seen absolutely zero difference in the number of negative news stories about Ardern.
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@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So New Zealand has hard shut it's borders again - due to Omicron cases in the MIQ.
The lottery system has been turned off.
I fucking hate you Ardern. Like I've never ever hated anybody before.
That should be a scandal.
Here in Japan, we had 5000 cases today. 7 people seriously ill in hospital.
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@gt12 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So New Zealand has hard shut it's borders again - due to Omicron cases in the MIQ.
The lottery system has been turned off.
I fucking hate you Ardern. Like I've never ever hated anybody before.
That should be a scandal.
Here in Japan, we had 5000 cases today. 7 people seriously ill in hospital.
7 / 5000 = 0.14%
Woah! Sound the alarm!!! -
FFS talk about showing unimaginative and weak leadership in response to the latest covid19 threat. John Key was right, Jacinda and her lot have turned us into the hermit country and show zero idea of how to transition us back into the global community.
14 new cases on Tuesday, with 30 in hospital and 2 in ICU. Hardly the surge stuff and the modelers warned us about
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
FFS talk about showing unimaginative and weak leadership in response to the latest covid19 threat. John Key was right, Jacinda and her lot have turned us into the hermit country and show zero idea of how to transition us back into the global community.
14 new cases on Tuesday, with 30 in hospital and 2 in ICU. Hardly the surge stuff and the modelers warned us about
Because they were talking shit
Again
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
FFS talk about showing unimaginative and weak leadership in response to the latest covid19 threat. John Key was right, Jacinda and her lot have turned us into the hermit country and show zero idea of how to transition us back into the global community.
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14 new cases on Tuesday, with 30 in hospital and 2 in ICU. Hardly the surge stuff and the modelers warned us about
Borders closed again, really? - I'll put any hope of a visit back to NZ to 2025
Here in the UK like many I caught it over Xmas/New Year ... 50+, vaxxed and boosted. Started like a cold but with bonus ultra-loud sneezing. I wouldn't have thought anything much, except after about a week I felt ultra-tired after anything physical
Anyway the huge spike in case rates hasn't translated into the levels of serious illness or stress on the NHS public health system we've seen before and seems to be dropping pretty fast
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@l_n_p said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
FFS talk about showing unimaginative and weak leadership in response to the latest covid19 threat. John Key was right, Jacinda and her lot have turned us into the hermit country and show zero idea of how to transition us back into the global community.
...
14 new cases on Tuesday, with 30 in hospital and 2 in ICU. Hardly the surge stuff and the modelers warned us about
Borders closed again, really? - I'll put any hope of a visit back to NZ to 2025
Here in the UK like many I caught it over Xmas/New Year ... 50+, vaxxed and boosted. Started like a cold but with bonus ultra-loud sneezing. I wouldn't have thought anything much, except after about a week I felt ultra-tired after anything physical
Anyway the huge spike in case rates hasn't translated into the levels of serious illness or stress on the NHS public health system we've seen before and seems to be dropping pretty fast
The longer we wait and try to keep it out, the more likely we will need boosters again because out bodies still haven't developed actual immunity from getting covid19. They don't say so, but they are still using the elimination playbook
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@l_n_p said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
FFS talk about showing unimaginative and weak leadership in response to the latest covid19 threat. John Key was right, Jacinda and her lot have turned us into the hermit country and show zero idea of how to transition us back into the global community.
...
14 new cases on Tuesday, with 30 in hospital and 2 in ICU. Hardly the surge stuff and the modelers warned us about
Borders closed again, really? - I'll put any hope of a visit back to NZ to 2025
Here in the UK like many I caught it over Xmas/New Year ... 50+, vaxxed and boosted. Started like a cold but with bonus ultra-loud sneezing. I wouldn't have thought anything much, except after about a week I felt ultra-tired after anything physical
Anyway the huge spike in case rates hasn't translated into the levels of serious illness or stress on the NHS public health system we've seen before and seems to be dropping pretty fast
The longer we wait and try to keep it out, the more likely we will need boosters again because out bodies still haven't developed actual immunity from getting covid19. They don't say so, but they are still using the elimination playbook
I don't think that is true. Even this govt is well beyond thinking elimination and have said so for some time.
What they are doing though is buying time and it remains to be seen if that strategy is correct.
The Omicron experience around the world is still playing out but the obvious part of incredibly rapid spread is there to be seen already.
At the moment it isn't doing much harm to NZ (as a whole) to keep stalling from allowing it to run free while we get some further protection against severity.
I get the 'let it in' arguments but also understand that when faced with actually making that decision it is not a reversible option and if it backfired it would be close to a criminal act against some.
Problem is that we actually have choices and have to make decisions. Advantage is that we have choices and can make decisions. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. -
@canefan I'm due my booster in a week or so, but am contemplating waiting for the original 6 month frame that was recommended rather than the rushing 4 months, which would mean I am boosted early autumn.
Although I guess if shit hits the fan like we know it will I'll probably just do it.
Know quite a lot who've had boosters, obviously Pfizer is the only prick in the game, some have had alot more bruising and aching, some less than either of.the 1st 2...
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@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@l_n_p said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
FFS talk about showing unimaginative and weak leadership in response to the latest covid19 threat. John Key was right, Jacinda and her lot have turned us into the hermit country and show zero idea of how to transition us back into the global community.
...
14 new cases on Tuesday, with 30 in hospital and 2 in ICU. Hardly the surge stuff and the modelers warned us about
Borders closed again, really? - I'll put any hope of a visit back to NZ to 2025
Here in the UK like many I caught it over Xmas/New Year ... 50+, vaxxed and boosted. Started like a cold but with bonus ultra-loud sneezing. I wouldn't have thought anything much, except after about a week I felt ultra-tired after anything physical
Anyway the huge spike in case rates hasn't translated into the levels of serious illness or stress on the NHS public health system we've seen before and seems to be dropping pretty fast
The longer we wait and try to keep it out, the more likely we will need boosters again because out bodies still haven't developed actual immunity from getting covid19. They don't say so, but they are still using the elimination playbook
I don't think that is true. Even this govt is well beyond thinking elimination and have said so for some time.
What they are doing though is buying time and it remains to be seen if that strategy is correct.
The Omicron experience around the world is still playing out but the obvious part of incredibly rapid spread is there to be seen already.
At the moment it isn't doing much harm to NZ (as a whole) to keep stalling from allowing it to run free while we get some further protection against severity.
I get the 'let it in' arguments but also understand that when faced with actually making that decision it is not a reversible option and if it backfired it would be close to a criminal act against some.
Problem is that we actually have choices and have to make decisions. Advantage is that we have choices and can make decisions. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.You have fallen into the trap of listening to what this government says, not looking at what it does.
If you think these policies aren't doing us harm you are living under a rock.
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@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So New Zealand has hard shut it's borders again - due to Omicron cases in the MIQ.
The lottery system has been turned off.
I fucking hate you Ardern. Like I've never ever hated anybody before.
I never thought I'd see the day where the NZ government has such little regard for NZ citizens abroad. It's fucking disgraceful.
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@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I don't think that is true. Even this govt is well beyond thinking elimination and have said so for some time.
What they are doing though is buying time and it remains to be seen if that strategy is correct.The government’s strategy is to minimise the risk of Omicron in New Zealand as much as possible.
from: https://www.miq.govt.nz/about/news/20-january-room-release-postponed/That sounds an awful lot like trying to keep it out frankly, which is elimination. Ironically, they may have already failed with it in the community.