Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022
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@kiwibloke said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@hooroo said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
Why oh why have they scheduled the start of a test match on a Sunday!!!
Very unusual.
Start of a test them back to work the next day ( while keeping an eye on the test )
I dont see any issues.
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I'm not sure what to make of the 'still learning to play at the Mount' lines that have popped up over the last couple of days. At the least, the Bangladeshi players and coaching staff were faster and more astute learners.
... "It's all to play for here at a ground that we know well. I still think we're learning how to play in the Mount," he said. "But we know what to expect a lot more here than we did in the Mount (Maunganui), I think. It's going to have bounce and carry the whole time. There's going to be a lot of grass on it. It's conditions that us batters are used to and I'm sure our bowlers are as well.
"So, if we win the toss, we're more often than not going to bowl and if you're batting first, you've got to scrap through. Sometimes our lower order has got us out of trouble. So just trying to scrap to 200 can be well above par. We'll just have to wait and see."
New Zealand have played eight Test matches at Hagley Oval. And they have lost only one of them. Mount Maunganui is a relatively newer ground which has hosted only three Test matches so far, and Ebadot Hossain, in particular, used it to throw up a challenge that, in Taylor's estimation, they weren't ready for.
"They were patient, they brought the stumps into play, they made us hit straight down the ground and a lot of our players probably haven't faced reverse swing for a majority of their careers," he said. "It's probably only been sporadic in the domestic circuit. And they bowled very well with it. Got it going both ways. But here, in Christchurch, the conditions will suit us a lot more than they probably did in the Mount." ...
Source: Ross Taylor: 'All good things have to come to an end' at ESPN CricInfo
The rest of that article is well worth a read too.
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@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
I'm not sure what to make of the 'still learning to play at the Mount' lines that have popped up over the last couple of days. At the least, the Bangladeshi players and coaching staff were faster and more astute learners.
... "It's all to play for here at a ground that we know well. I still think we're learning how to play in the Mount," he said. "But we know what to expect a lot more here than we did in the Mount (Maunganui), I think. It's going to have bounce and carry the whole time. There's going to be a lot of grass on it. It's conditions that us batters are used to and I'm sure our bowlers are as well.
"So, if we win the toss, we're more often than not going to bowl and if you're batting first, you've got to scrap through. Sometimes our lower order has got us out of trouble. So just trying to scrap to 200 can be well above par. We'll just have to wait and see."
New Zealand have played eight Test matches at Hagley Oval. And they have lost only one of them. Mount Maunganui is a relatively newer ground which has hosted only three Test matches so far, and Ebadot Hossain, in particular, used it to throw up a challenge that, in Taylor's estimation, they weren't ready for.
"They were patient, they brought the stumps into play, they made us hit straight down the ground and a lot of our players probably haven't faced reverse swing for a majority of their careers," he said. "It's probably only been sporadic in the domestic circuit. And they bowled very well with it. Got it going both ways. But here, in Christchurch, the conditions will suit us a lot more than they probably did in the Mount." ...
Source: Ross Taylor: 'All good things have to come to an end' at ESPN CricInfo
The rest of that article is well worth a read too.
Strange were not Bangladesh learning to play at the Mount which they did a lot better,Or has the Mount just come back from Dhaka were the Bangladesh team have been practicing on it.
Clutching at straws to explain a Limp performance I think.
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In my post match ramblings, my fried-from-the-Bay Oval-sun brain vaguely tried to make sense of the recent apparent change in Jamieson's bowling, and perhaps wider fortunes. His bowling average remains very impressive, but it looked like something was not quite right either
Sitting side-on on the evening of Day Three, on two to three occasions I thought there was some sort of (relative!) hesitancy/lack of fluency mid-action for Jamieson.
But as always with these things... I wondered if I was imagining it, or that 'thing' may have always been there when he was taking lots of wickets for not many. Cricket being one of those games where you can find almost anything if you start looking for it...
So it was interesting to read something well beyond my analytical skills from Chris Cairns behind the Herald paywall today: Chris Cairns column: The Black Caps issues that need addressing. The whole column is worth a read if you have access, but this particularly caught my eye:
... Trent Boult and Neil Wagner appeared their normal selves, but Tim Southee and Kyle Jamieson seemed off the mark.
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... In contrast, Jamieson is early into his test career and has been outstanding to date. A lack of wickets against Bangladesh – two for 90 - will be unfamiliar territory. I felt his timing was out at the point of delivery and this caused him to push the ball, especially to the left-handers. He also seemed to overstride in his run-up. That meant he did not hold his left side upright long enough in the delivery stride to maximise the tremendous height he possesses when powering over his front leg. This is a minor thing to tweak and his rhythm could quickly return at Hagley Oval. ...Hopefully a quick fix for Hagley Oval then!
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@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
In my post match ramblings, my fried-from-the-Bay Oval-sun brain vaguely tried to make sense of the recent apparent change in Jamieson's bowling, and perhaps wider fortunes. His bowling average remains very impressive, but it looked like something was not quite right either
Sitting side-on on the evening of Day Three, on two to three occasions I thought there was some sort of (relative!) hesitancy/lack of fluency mid-action for Jamieson.
But as always with these things... I wondered if I was imagining it, or that 'thing' may have always been there when he was taking lots of wickets for not many. Cricket being one of those games where you can find almost anything if you start looking for it...
So it was interesting to read something well beyond my analytical skills from Chris Cairns behind the Herald paywall today: Chris Cairns column: The Black Caps issues that need addressing. The whole column is worth a read if you have access, but this particularly caught my eye:
... Trent Boult and Neil Wagner appeared their normal selves, but Tim Southee and Kyle Jamieson seemed off the mark.
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... In contrast, Jamieson is early into his test career and has been outstanding to date. A lack of wickets against Bangladesh – two for 90 - will be unfamiliar territory. I felt his timing was out at the point of delivery and this caused him to push the ball, especially to the left-handers. He also seemed to overstride in his run-up. That meant he did not hold his left side upright long enough in the delivery stride to maximise the tremendous height he possesses when powering over his front leg. This is a minor thing to tweak and his rhythm could quickly return at Hagley Oval. ...Hopefully a quick fix for Hagley Oval then!
How good is it seeing Cairnsy writing articles compared to how he was a few months back ?
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@mn5 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
In my post match ramblings, my fried-from-the-Bay Oval-sun brain vaguely tried to make sense of the recent apparent change in Jamieson's bowling, and perhaps wider fortunes. His bowling average remains very impressive, but it looked like something was not quite right either
Sitting side-on on the evening of Day Three, on two to three occasions I thought there was some sort of (relative!) hesitancy/lack of fluency mid-action for Jamieson.
But as always with these things... I wondered if I was imagining it, or that 'thing' may have always been there when he was taking lots of wickets for not many. Cricket being one of those games where you can find almost anything if you start looking for it...
So it was interesting to read something well beyond my analytical skills from Chris Cairns behind the Herald paywall today: Chris Cairns column: The Black Caps issues that need addressing. The whole column is worth a read if you have access, but this particularly caught my eye:
... Trent Boult and Neil Wagner appeared their normal selves, but Tim Southee and Kyle Jamieson seemed off the mark.
...
... In contrast, Jamieson is early into his test career and has been outstanding to date. A lack of wickets against Bangladesh – two for 90 - will be unfamiliar territory. I felt his timing was out at the point of delivery and this caused him to push the ball, especially to the left-handers. He also seemed to overstride in his run-up. That meant he did not hold his left side upright long enough in the delivery stride to maximise the tremendous height he possesses when powering over his front leg. This is a minor thing to tweak and his rhythm could quickly return at Hagley Oval. ...Hopefully a quick fix for Hagley Oval then!
How good is it seeing Cairnsy writing articles compared to how he was a few months back ?
I'm cautious of someone who's been allegedly involved with match fixing being given a platform like that.
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@nzzp said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@mn5 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
In my post match ramblings, my fried-from-the-Bay Oval-sun brain vaguely tried to make sense of the recent apparent change in Jamieson's bowling, and perhaps wider fortunes. His bowling average remains very impressive, but it looked like something was not quite right either
Sitting side-on on the evening of Day Three, on two to three occasions I thought there was some sort of (relative!) hesitancy/lack of fluency mid-action for Jamieson.
But as always with these things... I wondered if I was imagining it, or that 'thing' may have always been there when he was taking lots of wickets for not many. Cricket being one of those games where you can find almost anything if you start looking for it...
So it was interesting to read something well beyond my analytical skills from Chris Cairns behind the Herald paywall today: Chris Cairns column: The Black Caps issues that need addressing. The whole column is worth a read if you have access, but this particularly caught my eye:
... Trent Boult and Neil Wagner appeared their normal selves, but Tim Southee and Kyle Jamieson seemed off the mark.
...
... In contrast, Jamieson is early into his test career and has been outstanding to date. A lack of wickets against Bangladesh – two for 90 - will be unfamiliar territory. I felt his timing was out at the point of delivery and this caused him to push the ball, especially to the left-handers. He also seemed to overstride in his run-up. That meant he did not hold his left side upright long enough in the delivery stride to maximise the tremendous height he possesses when powering over his front leg. This is a minor thing to tweak and his rhythm could quickly return at Hagley Oval. ...Hopefully a quick fix for Hagley Oval then!
How good is it seeing Cairnsy writing articles compared to how he was a few months back ?
I'm cautious of someone who's been allegedly involved with match fixing being given a platform like that.
Doesn’t take away from the fact he was one of our best players and knows the game intimately, he was also near death only a few months away so I for one think it’s great he’s hopefully on the mend.
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@mn5 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@nzzp said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@mn5 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
In my post match ramblings, my fried-from-the-Bay Oval-sun brain vaguely tried to make sense of the recent apparent change in Jamieson's bowling, and perhaps wider fortunes. His bowling average remains very impressive, but it looked like something was not quite right either
Sitting side-on on the evening of Day Three, on two to three occasions I thought there was some sort of (relative!) hesitancy/lack of fluency mid-action for Jamieson.
But as always with these things... I wondered if I was imagining it, or that 'thing' may have always been there when he was taking lots of wickets for not many. Cricket being one of those games where you can find almost anything if you start looking for it...
So it was interesting to read something well beyond my analytical skills from Chris Cairns behind the Herald paywall today: Chris Cairns column: The Black Caps issues that need addressing. The whole column is worth a read if you have access, but this particularly caught my eye:
... Trent Boult and Neil Wagner appeared their normal selves, but Tim Southee and Kyle Jamieson seemed off the mark.
...
... In contrast, Jamieson is early into his test career and has been outstanding to date. A lack of wickets against Bangladesh – two for 90 - will be unfamiliar territory. I felt his timing was out at the point of delivery and this caused him to push the ball, especially to the left-handers. He also seemed to overstride in his run-up. That meant he did not hold his left side upright long enough in the delivery stride to maximise the tremendous height he possesses when powering over his front leg. This is a minor thing to tweak and his rhythm could quickly return at Hagley Oval. ...Hopefully a quick fix for Hagley Oval then!
How good is it seeing Cairnsy writing articles compared to how he was a few months back ?
I'm cautious of someone who's been allegedly involved with match fixing being given a platform like that.
Doesn’t take away from the fact he was one of our best players and knows the game intimately.
I know. But his involvement appears super duper dodgy.
I contrast this with cancel culture, and I guess it's a matter of degree. There are very few people I'm cautious of continuing in their professions. Tony Veitch is one, Cairns is another. But my list is pretty short.
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@nzzp said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@mn5 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@nzzp said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@mn5 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
In my post match ramblings, my fried-from-the-Bay Oval-sun brain vaguely tried to make sense of the recent apparent change in Jamieson's bowling, and perhaps wider fortunes. His bowling average remains very impressive, but it looked like something was not quite right either
Sitting side-on on the evening of Day Three, on two to three occasions I thought there was some sort of (relative!) hesitancy/lack of fluency mid-action for Jamieson.
But as always with these things... I wondered if I was imagining it, or that 'thing' may have always been there when he was taking lots of wickets for not many. Cricket being one of those games where you can find almost anything if you start looking for it...
So it was interesting to read something well beyond my analytical skills from Chris Cairns behind the Herald paywall today: Chris Cairns column: The Black Caps issues that need addressing. The whole column is worth a read if you have access, but this particularly caught my eye:
... Trent Boult and Neil Wagner appeared their normal selves, but Tim Southee and Kyle Jamieson seemed off the mark.
...
... In contrast, Jamieson is early into his test career and has been outstanding to date. A lack of wickets against Bangladesh – two for 90 - will be unfamiliar territory. I felt his timing was out at the point of delivery and this caused him to push the ball, especially to the left-handers. He also seemed to overstride in his run-up. That meant he did not hold his left side upright long enough in the delivery stride to maximise the tremendous height he possesses when powering over his front leg. This is a minor thing to tweak and his rhythm could quickly return at Hagley Oval. ...Hopefully a quick fix for Hagley Oval then!
How good is it seeing Cairnsy writing articles compared to how he was a few months back ?
I'm cautious of someone who's been allegedly involved with match fixing being given a platform like that.
Doesn’t take away from the fact he was one of our best players and knows the game intimately.
I know. But his involvement appears super duper dodgy.
I contrast this with cancel culture, and I guess it's a matter of degree. There are very few people I'm cautious of continuing in their professions. Tony Veitch is one, Cairns is another. But my list is pretty short.
I think allegedly cheating in a game doesn’t quite compare with being an arsehole who beats a woman but there you go.
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@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
Bad news for Bangladesh, the Herald is reporting that Mahmudul Hasan Joy is out injured and likely to be replaced by a bloke with a first class batting average of 16.
Only rumoured Black Caps change seems to be Mitchell for Ravindra, pitch depending.
I’m not paying attention to that. We got rolled by a bowler who averaged over 80 in the last test.
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@mn5 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
Bad news for Bangladesh, the Herald is reporting that Mahmudul Hasan Joy is out injured and likely to be replaced by a bloke with a first class batting average of 16.
Only rumoured Black Caps change seems to be Mitchell for Ravindra, pitch depending.
I’m not paying attention to that. We got rolled by a bowler who averaged over 80 in the last test.
Only in this case, we know that the incumbent was good from bitter experience
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Bangladesh win the toss and bowl.
Mitchell in for Ravindra. Which, on recent form, makes the middle order seem a bit stronger.
Acid is on the top six to make starts and build on them. And a much improved performance with the ball is needed from Southee and Jamieson.
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@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
Bad news for Bangladesh, the Herald is reporting that Mahmudul Hasan Joy is out injured and likely to be replaced by a bloke with a first class batting average of 16.
Only rumoured Black Caps change seems to be Mitchell for Ravindra, pitch depending.
Ravindra doesn't add much with bat or ball - therefore the pitch doesn't really come into it... from the squad we have for this series against the Banglas reckon Mitchell should be replacing Ravindra in the 11.
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@nzzp said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@mn5 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@nzzp said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@mn5 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
In my post match ramblings, my fried-from-the-Bay Oval-sun brain vaguely tried to make sense of the recent apparent change in Jamieson's bowling, and perhaps wider fortunes. His bowling average remains very impressive, but it looked like something was not quite right either
Sitting side-on on the evening of Day Three, on two to three occasions I thought there was some sort of (relative!) hesitancy/lack of fluency mid-action for Jamieson.
But as always with these things... I wondered if I was imagining it, or that 'thing' may have always been there when he was taking lots of wickets for not many. Cricket being one of those games where you can find almost anything if you start looking for it...
So it was interesting to read something well beyond my analytical skills from Chris Cairns behind the Herald paywall today: Chris Cairns column: The Black Caps issues that need addressing. The whole column is worth a read if you have access, but this particularly caught my eye:
... Trent Boult and Neil Wagner appeared their normal selves, but Tim Southee and Kyle Jamieson seemed off the mark.
...
... In contrast, Jamieson is early into his test career and has been outstanding to date. A lack of wickets against Bangladesh – two for 90 - will be unfamiliar territory. I felt his timing was out at the point of delivery and this caused him to push the ball, especially to the left-handers. He also seemed to overstride in his run-up. That meant he did not hold his left side upright long enough in the delivery stride to maximise the tremendous height he possesses when powering over his front leg. This is a minor thing to tweak and his rhythm could quickly return at Hagley Oval. ...Hopefully a quick fix for Hagley Oval then!
How good is it seeing Cairnsy writing articles compared to how he was a few months back ?
I'm cautious of someone who's been allegedly involved with match fixing being given a platform like that.
Doesn’t take away from the fact he was one of our best players and knows the game intimately.
I know. But his involvement appears super duper dodgy.
I contrast this with cancel culture, and I guess it's a matter of degree. There are very few people I'm cautious of continuing in their professions. Tony Veitch is one, Cairns is another. But my list is pretty short.
Let's be clear. The involvement of Cairns isn't dodgy. Brendon McCullum testified under oath that Cairns approached him about match fixing. Either McCullum lied under oath or Cairns is a match fixer.
Cairns should have no place in cricket.
You should add Joseph Parker to your list. No idea how a drug dealer keeps getting so much positive publicity in the media.
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@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
Bangladesh win the toss and bowl.
Mitchell in for Ravindra. Which, on recent form, makes the middle order seem a bit stronger.
Acid is on the top six to make starts and build on them. And a much improved performance with the ball is needed from Southee and Jamieson.
To me they’re similar in that they’re competent batsmen but next to nothing bowlers at this level. Judging by their first class stats they both average about a wicket or so per match. No where near good enough.
Calling either of them true All rounders is a massive stretch.
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@mn5 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
Bangladesh win the toss and bowl.
Mitchell in for Ravindra. Which, on recent form, makes the middle order seem a bit stronger.
Acid is on the top six to make starts and build on them. And a much improved performance with the ball is needed from Southee and Jamieson.
To me they’re similar in that they’re competent batsmen but next to nothing bowlers at this level. Judging by their first class stats they both average about a wicket or so per match. No where near good enough.
Calling either of them true All rounders is a massive stretch.
Still rate Mitchell a better bowling option than Ravindra on any deck at this stage & Mitchell has also scored a couple of test hundreds too, which also makes our batting stronger.
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@kiwibloke said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@mn5 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
Bangladesh win the toss and bowl.
Mitchell in for Ravindra. Which, on recent form, makes the middle order seem a bit stronger.
Acid is on the top six to make starts and build on them. And a much improved performance with the ball is needed from Southee and Jamieson.
To me they’re similar in that they’re competent batsmen but next to nothing bowlers at this level. Judging by their first class stats they both average about a wicket or so per match. No where near good enough.
Calling either of them true All rounders is a massive stretch.
Still rate Mitchell a better bowling option than Ravindra on any deck at this stage & Mitchell has also scored a couple of test hundreds too, which also makes our batting stronger.
I suppose Mitch could become that Styris/Astle/McMillan type. Not world class as a batsman but a useful change bowler when needed as all those three were. They did play in an era where we expected less though.
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@hydro11 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@nzzp said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@mn5 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@nzzp said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@mn5 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
In my post match ramblings, my fried-from-the-Bay Oval-sun brain vaguely tried to make sense of the recent apparent change in Jamieson's bowling, and perhaps wider fortunes. His bowling average remains very impressive, but it looked like something was not quite right either
Sitting side-on on the evening of Day Three, on two to three occasions I thought there was some sort of (relative!) hesitancy/lack of fluency mid-action for Jamieson.
But as always with these things... I wondered if I was imagining it, or that 'thing' may have always been there when he was taking lots of wickets for not many. Cricket being one of those games where you can find almost anything if you start looking for it...
So it was interesting to read something well beyond my analytical skills from Chris Cairns behind the Herald paywall today: Chris Cairns column: The Black Caps issues that need addressing. The whole column is worth a read if you have access, but this particularly caught my eye:
... Trent Boult and Neil Wagner appeared their normal selves, but Tim Southee and Kyle Jamieson seemed off the mark.
...
... In contrast, Jamieson is early into his test career and has been outstanding to date. A lack of wickets against Bangladesh – two for 90 - will be unfamiliar territory. I felt his timing was out at the point of delivery and this caused him to push the ball, especially to the left-handers. He also seemed to overstride in his run-up. That meant he did not hold his left side upright long enough in the delivery stride to maximise the tremendous height he possesses when powering over his front leg. This is a minor thing to tweak and his rhythm could quickly return at Hagley Oval. ...Hopefully a quick fix for Hagley Oval then!
How good is it seeing Cairnsy writing articles compared to how he was a few months back ?
I'm cautious of someone who's been allegedly involved with match fixing being given a platform like that.
Doesn’t take away from the fact he was one of our best players and knows the game intimately.
I know. But his involvement appears super duper dodgy.
I contrast this with cancel culture, and I guess it's a matter of degree. There are very few people I'm cautious of continuing in their professions. Tony Veitch is one, Cairns is another. But my list is pretty short.
Let's be clear. The involvement of Cairns isn't dodgy. Brendon McCullum testified under oath that Cairns approached him about match fixing. Either McCullum lied under oath or Cairns is a match fixer.
Cairns should have no place in cricket.
You should add Joseph Parker to your list. No idea how a drug dealer keeps getting so much positive publicity in the media.
I agree with this. I thought his career would be effectively over in New Zealand. Nobody seems to care though and he is brought on the radio for fluff interviews.
I thought Cairns was basically ignored now aside from his recent medical issues. I am a bit surprised he is writing articles.
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@damo said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@hydro11 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@nzzp said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@mn5 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@nzzp said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@mn5 said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
@donsteppa said in Black Caps v Bangladesh 2022:
In my post match ramblings, my fried-from-the-Bay Oval-sun brain vaguely tried to make sense of the recent apparent change in Jamieson's bowling, and perhaps wider fortunes. His bowling average remains very impressive, but it looked like something was not quite right either
Sitting side-on on the evening of Day Three, on two to three occasions I thought there was some sort of (relative!) hesitancy/lack of fluency mid-action for Jamieson.
But as always with these things... I wondered if I was imagining it, or that 'thing' may have always been there when he was taking lots of wickets for not many. Cricket being one of those games where you can find almost anything if you start looking for it...
So it was interesting to read something well beyond my analytical skills from Chris Cairns behind the Herald paywall today: Chris Cairns column: The Black Caps issues that need addressing. The whole column is worth a read if you have access, but this particularly caught my eye:
... Trent Boult and Neil Wagner appeared their normal selves, but Tim Southee and Kyle Jamieson seemed off the mark.
...
... In contrast, Jamieson is early into his test career and has been outstanding to date. A lack of wickets against Bangladesh – two for 90 - will be unfamiliar territory. I felt his timing was out at the point of delivery and this caused him to push the ball, especially to the left-handers. He also seemed to overstride in his run-up. That meant he did not hold his left side upright long enough in the delivery stride to maximise the tremendous height he possesses when powering over his front leg. This is a minor thing to tweak and his rhythm could quickly return at Hagley Oval. ...Hopefully a quick fix for Hagley Oval then!
How good is it seeing Cairnsy writing articles compared to how he was a few months back ?
I'm cautious of someone who's been allegedly involved with match fixing being given a platform like that.
Doesn’t take away from the fact he was one of our best players and knows the game intimately.
I know. But his involvement appears super duper dodgy.
I contrast this with cancel culture, and I guess it's a matter of degree. There are very few people I'm cautious of continuing in their professions. Tony Veitch is one, Cairns is another. But my list is pretty short.
Let's be clear. The involvement of Cairns isn't dodgy. Brendon McCullum testified under oath that Cairns approached him about match fixing. Either McCullum lied under oath or Cairns is a match fixer.
Cairns should have no place in cricket.
You should add Joseph Parker to your list. No idea how a drug dealer keeps getting so much positive publicity in the media.
I agree with this. I thought his career would be effectively over in New Zealand. Nobody seems to care though and he is brought on the radio for fluff interviews.
I thought Cairns was basically ignored now aside from his recent medical issues. I am a bit surprised he is writing articles.
Parker is a choirboy compared to any number of boxers who’ve done far, far worse and still competed. If anything his recent antics have helped his reputation. Ridiculous comparison.
