NFL 2016

antipodean

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Tweet from Ben Ryan:
 
In other news - Jarryd Hayne joins us in camp for London 7s. 14 players to contest the 12 sports for last tournament of <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://twitter.com/WorldRugby7s'>@WorldRugby7s</a>
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That doesn't say he's in the squad, which is my point.

Paekakboyz

You guys catch the drug policy that might scupper this? NFL ain't clean and Hayne won't have time for the 6 month stand down and testing in rugby. Or something to that effect.
 
from the Herald
 
 
Meanwhile, anti-doping laws could stop Hayne from competing at the Rio Olympics for the Fijian sevens team, according to former Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority boss Richard Ings.
â€‹He said World Rugby rules require players to be in a registered testing pool for six months to be eligible to compete at sanctioned competitions.
And according to Ing, Hayne's stint in the NFL does not fit the requirements.
"If Jarryd Hayne had been playing in WADA (World Anti-Doping Agency) compliant sport he would have grounds to reduce the six months," Ings tweeted on Monday morning.
"But NFL is PED (performance enhancing drugs) badlands. No chance."
Ultimately, the decision on whether Hayne would be cleared to play will come down to World Rugby, while the former NRL star could appeal any decision which goes against him.
But Ings believes the restriction is a vital one.
"The six-month return to competition rule is standard across most sports for athletes returning to international competition. And necessary," Ings tweeted.
"The rule equally applies to reinstatement or to new players. Sensibly it must or any NFL player could bulk up and play."
Hayne's hopes of being cleared to play should increase though given fellow NFL-convert Nate Ebner debuted for the United States at last month's Singapore World Sevens tournament - just a month after he left the New England Patriots.
 
That last bit may mean it isn't as cut and dried as I'd heard

antipodean

Yeah Richard Ings, former head of ASADA, has been tweeting about it a fair bit.

Sneakdefreak

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Yeah Richard Ings, former head of ASADA, has been tweeting about it a fair bit. </blockquote>
 
 
Was he the one at the centre of the botch up regarding the Cronulla Sharks and the ASADA drug testing?

NTA

World Rugby have cleared up this 6-month thing: <a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.worldrugby.org/news/161018">http://www.worldrugby.org/news/161018</a> 
World Rugby notes the announcement that Jarryd Hayne wishes to pursue new sporting challenges with the Fiji rugby sevens team and has moved to address speculation regarding the playerâ€™s availability under Regulation 21 to play sevens. 
World Rugby is committed to the highest-possible anti-doping standards. The WADA-compliant World Rugby Regulation 21 mirrors the requirements of the World Anti-Doping Code and the WADA International Standard for Testing and Investigations. It does not require a player to be included in a testing pool for a defined period of time prior to selection if they are being selected for international competition for the first time. This position is entirely consistent with World Rugbyâ€™s approach to other cross-over athletes, including other ex-NFL athletes coming into rugby. 
Therefore, Hayne would be eligible for the London round of the HSBC World Rugby Sevens Series subject to all other regulatory and registration matters being met. He would also be immediately included in World Rugbyâ€™s pre-Rio 2016 risk-based testing programme, which since January 2016 has included a comprehensive programme of targeted in and out of competition blood and urine testing on players likely to compete in Rio. The pre-Games programme also includes regular additional screening for substances such as ESAs and human growth hormone, and both steroidal and haematological athlete biological profiling

taniwharugby

you'd have to think there will be significant pressure from the Fijian Rugby Union (via sponsors) to ensure Hayne gets a run!
 
Voss was on the radio this morning, he was pretty scathing about the way Hayne has done this given he was supposedly approached in Feb, and then 3 months later decided to chase this dream...gotta feel for the bloke that's been in the squad all along that Hayne is gonna push out, just cos.

Mofitzy

It's not as if they are struggling without him.

KiwiMurph

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you'd have to think there will be significant pressure from the Fijian Rugby Union (via sponsors) to ensure Hayne gets a run!
 
Voss was on the radio this morning, he was pretty scathing about the way Hayne has done this given he was supposedly approached in Feb, and then 3 months later decided to chase this dream...gotta feel for the bloke that's been in the squad all along that Hayne is gonna push out, just cos.
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I'm guessing this may have happened at the Sydney 7s in Feb - given Hayne was there.

barbarian

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you'd have to think there will be significant pressure from the Fijian Rugby Union (via sponsors) to ensure Hayne gets a run!
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Yeah but they said that about Quade and the Aussie squad, but it seems that has been pushed to the side in the quest for gold.
 
I don't know the ins and outs of Fijian rugby admin, but I'd be amazed if they put marketing $$ ahead of a gold medal, especially the first time it's at the Olympics in a sport that means SO much to that nation.

Crucial

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Yeah but they said that about Quade and the Aussie squad, but it seems that has been pushed to the side in the quest for gold.
 
I don't know the ins and outs of Fijian rugby admin, but I'd be amazed if they put marketing $$ ahead of a gold medal, especially the first time it's at the Olympics in a sport that means SO much to that nation.
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Chance for Fiji's first ever Olympic medal of any colour.

taniwharugby

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Yeah but they said that about Quade and the Aussie squad, but it seems that has been pushed to the side in the quest for gold.
 
I don't know the ins and outs of Fijian rugby admin, but I'd be amazed if they put marketing $$ ahead of a gold medal, especially the first time it's at the Olympics in a sport that means SO much to that nation.
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dunno if the sponsor dollars are as important to Aus as they would be to Fiji?
 
Hopefully you are right, but.....

Crucial

I'm not a league follower at all so have never really watched him play, but can someone tell me if he remotely lives up to the hype?

ACT Crusader

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I guess it's a combination of marketing, quality athlete and generating interest. 
Sorry did I just explain what the ABs did when they brought in Sonny Bill. We certainly weren't struggling without him.....

ACT Crusader

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="580268" data-time="1463440494">I'm not a league follower at all so have never really watched him play, but can someone tell me if he remotely lives up to the hype?</blockquote>
 
He's a quality league player. Probably the best in the world in the last couple of years before he went to the NFL. 
He did some pretty crazy stuff. Almost Rupeni like in running at full tilt and scooping up a ball off the deck and then evading players. He wasn't a big 'stepper' (although he did use it), but more a swerver at pace. 
Because the Eels were a struggling team they turned him into their 2nd playmaker, a role he played pretty well.

Mofitzy

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I guess it's a combination of marketing, quality athlete and generating interest. 
Sorry did I just explain what the ABs did when they brought in Sonny Bill. We certainly weren't struggling without him.....</blockquote>
Situation is quite different but I take your point. SBW was selected on merit though, unless Hayne lights it up between now and the Olympics it will be a mockery to take him to Rio.

mariner4life

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He's a quality league player. Probably the best in the world in the last couple of years before he went to the NFL. 
He did some pretty crazy stuff. Almost Rupeni like in running at full tilt and scooping up a ball off the deck and then evading players. He wasn't a big 'stepper' (although he did use it), but more a swerver at pace. 
Because the Eels were a struggling team they turned him into their 2nd playmaker, a role he played pretty well.
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whoa whoa whoa, easy on there. Quality? yes. Best outside back? probably. Best player? That's over egging it.
 
His best season was when he got the Eels to the GF pretty much by himself (with a side of Fuifui). He was unplayable that year, tore teams apart from the back.
 
He's fucking good on his feet, with great hands. He wasn't a natural playmaker when they tried to make him a 6, but the man can run. I would imagine the NFL has improved his explosiveness, but i would worry about his aerobic capacity.

MN5

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whoa whoa whoa, easy on there. Quality? yes. Best outside back? probably. Best player? That's over egging it.
 
His best season was when he got the Eels to the GF pretty much by himself (with a side of Fuifui). He was unplayable that year, tore teams apart from the back.
 
He's fucking good on his feet, with great hands. He wasn't a natural playmaker when they tried to make him a 6, but the man can run. I would imagine the NFL has improved his explosiveness, but i would worry about his aerobic capacity. 
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He looked more explosive than most when he played league so that's a huge call.
 
I don't think he was ever as amazing as Inglis at his best though.

ACT Crusader

I thought in 2014 he was superior to JT and Inglis. 
Back in 09, when the Eels lost the GF he was on fire but I thought over the next few years his stock increased big time when he became a more rounded player.

mariner4life

I think JT has been the best for about the last 4 years straight, but it's personal opinion. 
 
I could never understand why NSW never played him at fullback, instead of sticking him on a wing. 
 
 
 
The least surprising thing in all of this is, within a matter of minutes of this announcement, it was strongly suggested he would sign with the Roosters after Rio

antipodean

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World Rugby have cleared up this 6-month thing: <a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.worldrugby.org/news/161018">http://www.worldrugby.org/news/161018</a> 
World Rugby notes the announcement that Jarryd Hayne wishes to pursue new sporting challenges with the Fiji rugby sevens team and has moved to address speculation regarding the playerâ€™s availability under Regulation 21 to play sevens. 
World Rugby is committed to the highest-possible anti-doping standards. The WADA-compliant World Rugby Regulation 21 mirrors the requirements of the World Anti-Doping Code and the WADA International Standard for Testing and Investigations. It does not require a player to be included in a testing pool for a defined period of time prior to selection if they are being selected for international competition for the first time. This position is entirely consistent with World Rugbyâ€™s approach to other cross-over athletes, including other ex-NFL athletes coming into rugby. 
Therefore, Hayne would be eligible for the London round of the HSBC World Rugby Sevens Series subject to all other regulatory and registration matters being met. He would also be immediately included in World Rugbyâ€™s pre-Rio 2016 risk-based testing programme, which since January 2016 has included a comprehensive programme of targeted in and out of competition blood and urine testing on players likely to compete in Rio. The pre-Games programme also includes regular additional screening for substances such as ESAs and human growth hormone, and both steroidal and haematological athlete biological profiling
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So you can go from a sport that inhales peptides for breakfast to one that complies with WADA just before competition? What a joke.
 
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I'm not a league follower at all so have never really watched him play, but can someone tell me if he remotely lives up to the hype?
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Yeah he did. Whether he can develop the fitness required for 7s in the next 10 weeks is another issue.

The Silver Fern

NFL 2016