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    @bones said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @stodders no sarcasm. It'll be amazing how much easier it is to get the team moving forward when the team are actually being passed to.

    Yep but chicken and egg thing remains in some cases, it certainly a lot easier for forwards to win phase ball etc if the ball is in front of them. Sometimes we see the ball passed too much behind the advantage line, and as most people will realise the advantage line , and crossing it is almost evrything in rugby, only was to get flow going.

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    @dan54 Give Rennie time. Remember his team beat the Boks twice, it’s his first year coaching an international team unlike Foster and is their depth better than ours?

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    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @tim

    I'd stick with Scott McLeod on Defence. It's the one aspect of the team which seems to be working well.

    EDIT: To be fair, they get loads of practice...

    The scramble defence is good but our line gets opened up far too easily and we are still relatively passive.

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    @broughie said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @dan54 Give Rennie time. Remember his team beat the Boks twice, it’s his first year coaching an international team unlike Foster and is their depth better than ours?

    Well in that case, If he doesn't win the RC or Bledisloe next year, Oz should dump him and he be kept as far way from the ABs as possible as he's obviously just as useless a coach as Foster.....

    I mean, it's just logical, innit? 🙂

    ....

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    @bones said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @stodders no sarcasm. It'll be amazing how much easier it is to get the team moving forward when the team are actually being passed to.

    It's a big part of the problem, for sure. TJP just isn't cutting for me - particularly in the starting line-up

    Christie has stepped up and doesn't look out of place at Test level and I'd like to see him & Weber get more game time.

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    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @bones said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @stodders no sarcasm. It'll be amazing how much easier it is to get the team moving forward when the team are actually being passed to.

    It's a big part of the problem, for sure. TJP just isn't cutting for me - particularly in the starting line-up

    Christie has stepped up and doesn't look out of place at Test level and I'd like to see him & Weber get more game time.

    NZR are apparently pulling out all stops to get Fakatava's eligibility sorted. That indicates to me that they aren't convinced at all on the current options below Smith.

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    @crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    NZR are apparently pulling out all stops to get Fakatava's eligibility sorted

    Don't believe it - indicates forward thinking.... 😎

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    @broughie said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @dan54 Give Rennie time. Remember his team beat the Boks twice, it’s his first year coaching an international team unlike Foster and is their depth better than ours?

    didnt rennie get appointed last year? ie this is his second year

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    Redirect Notice

    I thought Sexton went off for a HIA assessment on Saturday? Brains must be in his lower body 😜

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    @crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @bones said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @stodders no sarcasm. It'll be amazing how much easier it is to get the team moving forward when the team are actually being passed to.

    It's a big part of the problem, for sure. TJP just isn't cutting for me - particularly in the starting line-up

    Christie has stepped up and doesn't look out of place at Test level and I'd like to see him & Weber get more game time.

    NZR are apparently pulling out all stops to get Fakatava's eligibility sorted. That indicates to me that they aren't convinced at all on the current options below Smith.

    Rupeni part 2….

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    @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @broughie said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @dan54 Give Rennie time. Remember his team beat the Boks twice, it’s his first year coaching an international team unlike Foster and is their depth better than ours?

    didnt rennie get appointed last year? ie this is his second year

    He was appointed in late 2019 after the Wallabies EOYT ahead of the 2020 season.

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    @act-crusader and its 2021 isn't it? so hes had 2020 and 2021...admittedly a couple of pretty messed up seasons

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    @act-crusader said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @bones said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @stodders no sarcasm. It'll be amazing how much easier it is to get the team moving forward when the team are actually being passed to.

    It's a big part of the problem, for sure. TJP just isn't cutting for me - particularly in the starting line-up

    Christie has stepped up and doesn't look out of place at Test level and I'd like to see him & Weber get more game time.

    NZR are apparently pulling out all stops to get Fakatava's eligibility sorted. That indicates to me that they aren't convinced at all on the current options below Smith.

    Rupeni part 2….

    An anomaly with eligibility laws at this particular moment in time. If he wasn't injured he'd be an AB now, but because he's injured he has to wait extra time.

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    This site has some deep stats for the game, and others up north.

    Autumn Nations Series: Autumn Rugby Internationals 2024

    Autumn Nations Series: Autumn Rugby Internationals 2024

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    @machpants Irish missed more tackles than us, despite us having to make twice as many.

    TBH I think plenty of those stats are not surprising, when you look at some of our matches over the years, but we kicked away twice as much and passed half as much, Rucks won - Ireland 132, NZ 57

    We had twice as many linebreaks and more off loads, yet alot was ineffective.

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    Jesus, they're living in their own dream world confirmation bubble. Don't expect any real growth in the ABs until post world cup

    Prop Joe Moody backed the side's game plan for the Ireland test, saying that they just failed to take the right options at key times.
    "Watching the review this morning, we're still creating the opportunities, we're just - at that final hurdle - choosing the wrong option and not quite executing. I don't feel like it's a game plan thing."

    @Stargazer

    'Wee bit of anger': How All Blacks plan to bounce back after confronting review
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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @machpants Irish missed more tackles than us, despite us having to make twice as many.

    TBH I think plenty of those stats are not surprising, when you look at some of our matches over the years, but we kicked away twice as much and passed half as much, Rucks won - Ireland 132, NZ 57

    We had twice as many linebreaks and more off loads, yet alot was ineffective.

    I guess we generally do more with less ball. Sometimes I'd like to see us grind down an opposition

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    @machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    Jesus, they're living in their own dream world confirmation bubble. Don't expect any real growth in the ABs until post world cup

    Prop Joe Moody backed the side's game plan for the Ireland test, saying that they just failed to take the right options at key times.
    "Watching the review this morning, we're still creating the opportunities, we're just - at that final hurdle - choosing the wrong option and not quite executing. I don't feel like it's a game plan thing."

    @Stargazer

    'Wee bit of anger': How All Blacks plan to bounce back after confronting review

    I suppose he can’t say much else if they have just come out of a review with the coache’s.They must have lead the way with that stuff in the review and the players have to come out and back it up.
    Really he might want to have said the game plan and the coaching staff are shit can we please dump them. As I am sick of listening to their BS.
    But that’s not good for the pay packet.

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    well, to be fair, we were one very slight decision away from winning the game. Despite getting flogged in every single metric. So he sorta has a point

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    @mariner4life when you look at the stats form the article above, which many I dont think vary greatly form previous years good wins, so a couple more chances taken, an ounce of luck and result could have been very different, so I guess there is that glimmer....

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