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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@taniwharugby goddam it. I read that as "Australian" and i was already packing the car and deleting my vaccination certificate
Me too!
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@crazy-horse i think we all did
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Israel
Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett and senior aides holed up in a nuclear command bunker on Thursday to simulate an outbreak of a vaccine-resistant COVID-19 variant to which children are vulnerable, describing such an eventuality as "the next war".
The script sees a fictitious strain, 'Omega', bypassing the vaccines which Israel rolled out at record pace this year. Omega also sickens children - largely spared by the actual virus - prompting mass hospitalisations and school closures.
It's AUSTRIA @mariner4life
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Israel
Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett and senior aides holed up in a nuclear command bunker on Thursday to simulate an outbreak of a vaccine-resistant COVID-19 variant to which children are vulnerable, describing such an eventuality as "the next war".
The script sees a fictitious strain, 'Omega', bypassing the vaccines which Israel rolled out at record pace this year. Omega also sickens children - largely spared by the actual virus - prompting mass hospitalisations and school closures.
It's AUSTRIA @mariner4life
The land of Fritzel? I'm not surprised
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Israel
Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett and senior aides holed up in a nuclear command bunker on Thursday to simulate an outbreak of a vaccine-resistant COVID-19 variant to which children are vulnerable, describing such an eventuality as "the next war".
The script sees a fictitious strain, 'Omega', bypassing the vaccines which Israel rolled out at record pace this year. Omega also sickens children - largely spared by the actual virus - prompting mass hospitalisations and school closures.
It's AUSTRIA @mariner4life
The land of Fritzel? I'm not surprised
If any one knows how to do lockdown it’s him.
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When the fuck are we going to stop listening to these modeling idiots?
GERMANY
"The institute also reported 237 daily Covid-19 deaths, bringing Germany's pandemic death toll to 97,198.One of the country's top virologists, Christian Drosten, warned that another 100,000 people could die in coming months if the country's vaccination rate did not accelerate quickly."
How the fuck is it even possible that more people can die at this stage of the virus in only a couple of months when the total death toll is 97,198 to date?
What fucking doomsday machine is spewing out these numbers?
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@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - Overall:
… How the fuck is it even possible that more people can die at this stage of the virus in only a couple of months when the total death toll is 97,198 to date?
What fucking doomsday machine is spewing out these numbers?
The real problem is that it causes a boy who cried wolf scenario. People will no longer buy into any proposed measures that might actually be necessary.
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@catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - Overall:
… How the fuck is it even possible that more people can die at this stage of the virus in only a couple of months when the total death toll is 97,198 to date?
What fucking doomsday machine is spewing out these numbers?
The real problem is that it causes a boy who cried wolf scenario. People will no longer buy into any proposed measures that might actually be necessary.
Absolutely this. Those warnings could only be true if there was a next variant and it turned out to go the other way and be incredibly lethal, I imagine @Tim could give us an idea of how likely such a change would be.
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CDC shifts pandemic goals away from reaching herd immunity
…“Thinking that we’ll be able to achieve some kind of threshold where there’ll be no more transmission of infections may not be possible,” Jones acknowledged last week to members of a panel that advises the CDC on vaccines. …
Recent evidence has also made clear that the immunity provided by vaccines can wane in a matter of months.
The result is that even if vaccination were universal, the coronavirus would probably continue to spread.
https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-shifts-pandemic-goals-away-130028307.html
Inredible. Even with 100% vaccination, across all age sectors and demographics, the virus will transmit and mutate, and vaccine is possibly effective for only a few months. Get ready for annual booster shots for the rest of your life.
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@kid-chocolate said in Coronavirus - Overall:
CDC shifts pandemic goals away from reaching herd immunity
…“Thinking that we’ll be able to achieve some kind of threshold where there’ll be no more transmission of infections may not be possible,” Jones acknowledged last week to members of a panel that advises the CDC on vaccines. …
Recent evidence has also made clear that the immunity provided by vaccines can wane in a matter of months.
The result is that even if vaccination were universal, the coronavirus would probably continue to spread.
https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-shifts-pandemic-goals-away-130028307.html
Inredible. Even with 100% vaccination, across all age sectors and demographics, the virus will transmit and mutate, and vaccine is possibly effective for only a few months. Get ready for annual booster shots for the rest of your life.
But everything back to normal then?
As in no more lockdowns and masks etc
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@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@kid-chocolate said in Coronavirus - Overall:
CDC shifts pandemic goals away from reaching herd immunity
…“Thinking that we’ll be able to achieve some kind of threshold where there’ll be no more transmission of infections may not be possible,” Jones acknowledged last week to members of a panel that advises the CDC on vaccines. …
Recent evidence has also made clear that the immunity provided by vaccines can wane in a matter of months.
The result is that even if vaccination were universal, the coronavirus would probably continue to spread.
https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-shifts-pandemic-goals-away-130028307.html
Inredible. Even with 100% vaccination, across all age sectors and demographics, the virus will transmit and mutate, and vaccine is possibly effective for only a few months. Get ready for annual booster shots for the rest of your life.
But everything back to normal then?
As in no more lockdowns and masks etc
The result is that even if vaccination were universal, the coronavirus would probably continue to spread.
I can't see why this is news to anyone who has been paying attention. The common cold and influenza are coronaviruses. They will continue to mutate and vaccinated people will get infected. But the vaccine is trying to reduce the severity for most people, gradually over time our own immune systems will do that job better and better on their own
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@canefan the amount of people that think this vaccine will eradicate covid much like polio etc etc are in a very high number.
That's is my big problem with the one word of truth, they don't want to state or discuss anything that would possibly discourage people to get vaccinated. So now most people think any unvaccinated person has just been reading conspiracy theories online and is a moron.
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@muddyriver said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan the amount of people that think this vaccine will eradicate covid much like polio etc etc are in a very high number.
That's is my big problem with the one word of truth, they don't want to state or discuss anything that would possibly discourage people to get vaccinated. So now most people think any unvaccinated person has just been reading conspiracy theories online and is a moron.
The figures are pretty clear to indicate that you are less likely to contract the virus if you are vaccinated. And less likely to be hospitalised if you do contract it
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
The common cold and influenza are coronaviruses.
I think you've got that a bit mixed up. Some common colds (and i guess what some people would wrongly refer to as "the flu") are caused by coronaviruses but not all. Influenza isn't caused by a coronavirus, it's caused by an influenza virus.
And that's about the limit of my knowledge on virology.
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@anonymous said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
The common cold and influenza are coronaviruses.
I think you've got that a bit mixed up. Some common colds (and i guess what some people would wrongly refer to as "the flu") are caused by coronaviruses but not all. Influenza isn't caused by a coronavirus, it's caused by an influenza virus.
And that's about the limit of my knowledge on virology.
https://www.healthnavigator.org.nz/health-a-z/c/coronavirus/
The common cold is a set of symptoms, not the name of a specific coronavirus. You are correct about the flu Point I was trying to make was that in 1918 the flu killed a shit load of people. Over time immune systems in the survivors learned to combat it reasonably well to the point where today many people don't bother with an annual vaccine
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@anonymous said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
The common cold and influenza are coronaviruses.
I think you've got that a bit mixed up. Some common colds (and i guess what some people would wrongly refer to as "the flu") are caused by coronaviruses but not all. Influenza isn't caused by a coronavirus, it's caused by an influenza virus.
And that's about the limit of my knowledge on virology.
https://www.healthnavigator.org.nz/health-a-z/c/coronavirus/
The common cold is a set of symptoms, not the name of a specific coronavirus. You are correct about the flu Point I was trying to make was that in 1918 the flu killed a shit load of people. Over time immune systems in the survivors learned to combat it reasonably well to the point where today many people don't bother with an annual vaccine
No idea how accurate this graph is but it's a break down of the types of viruses that cause the "common cold". The point I was trying to make is that only a portion of the time those symptoms are caused by a coronavirus.
I agree with the rest of what you said though.
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I think it has seemed pretty clear for some time this aint going away, at least not anytime soon!
For me, if the vaccine assists in slowing the spread and if I happen to pick it up and slightly lessens the chance of me transmitting it to anyone I may come into contact with (my parents, my aunts, uncles etc) so that if they get hospitalised the system isnt smashed, and if a mask helps reduce transmission, even by only 5%, then I'm ok with that.
For me, is a small price to pay for my life to get back to some kind of normal.
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@taniwharugby you sum up my thoughts pretty accurately
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