George Smith
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<p>Fark, I love Owen Finegan. Thinking of a quality player like that reminds you just how deadly the Wobbles were back then, and how they don't seem to have produced the forwards since.</p>
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<p>Yeah him, Smith and Kefu were some trio weren't they ? I remember thinking Flavell, Randell ( there was the problem, no real 7 ) and Cribb would be more than a match for them.</p>
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<p>I was wrong.</p>
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<p>The Brumbies were always compulsory viewing back in those days too and Finegan and Smith played a huge part in that.</p> -
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<p>He was unit back in the day. Ended up in the same bar as the Brumbies squad in 2004 or 2005. Recognised some of the frontrankers and they were tiny but Smith was seriously big, a little taller than you would expect (i'm 6'2" and he has an inch or two on me) and broad as a shit house.</p>
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<p>i think you had too much to drink. I too had beers with him and a few other Brumbies once in Wellington, i'm also 6'2, and he was considerably shorter than me. Wiki has him at 1.8 which might even be a bit generous.</p>
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<p>Phenomenal player. I remember watching he debut for the Brumbies and thinking "shit, they've got a good one here". Great over the ball, great instincts, great running game, and all-round rugby skill (his passing was excellent, and i remember a few very good little grubber kicks for Brumbies tries as well). </p> -
<p>Since the dawn of time Rugby programs have always made skinny guys more bulky ( Ian Jones, Norm Maxwell ), short guys more tall ( George Smith, Ardie Savea ) and fat guys lighter ( Sione Lauaki, Bill Cavubati ). There's also people who jump on forums to further spread this propaganda. It's not like boxing, they don't have weigh ins before the match.</p>
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<p>I don't even know if I'd call McCaw a better player than him. If you take out McCaw's leadership of the All Blacks, I'm not convinced I can honestly say that he was a better out and out 7 than George Smith.</p>
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<p>He's probably a better pilot than McCaw too.</p> -
<p>I recall hearing that Junior Tonu'u was listed as being about 10kg lighter than he actually was.</p>
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<p>Is an odd thing, some players who look huge/small on TV and then you stand close to them and they look huger/smaller than you expected.</p> -
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<p>I don't even know if I'd call McCaw a better player than him. If you take out McCaw's leadership of the All Blacks, I'm not convinced I can honestly say that he was a better out and out 7 than George Smith.</p>
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<p>I think if you weight Super Rugby performances the same as tests you can at least make an argument like that without being laughed out of the room (similar story with Pocock). But make no mistake McCaw was still McCaw by mid-2005. The Aussie comms would bleat, he already had the cheat moniker etc etc. EOYT 06 when he won the IRB player of the year is the absolute latest you could argue after one pretty standard year of captaincy (compared to Slam/Lions the year before under Umaga).</p>
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<p>Smith I recall being possibly the better pilferer, but I remember him at his peak as a pilferer with the Brumbies in Super Rugby where the jackal is much more effective. I don't ever remember him turning a test against us with his ruck play - and he played us a lot. That said he was always one of the top 5 Wallabies on the park come Bledisloe time. McCaw's motor at test level and ability to get through work is several lightyears above anyone else I've seen. Pick an AB test at random from the past 12 years and see who tops the tackle and carry counts - McCaw every time.</p> -
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Smith I recall being possibly the better pilferer, but I remember him at his peak as a pilferer with the Brumbies in Super Rugby where the jackal is much more effective. I don't ever remember him turning a test against us with his ruck play - and he played us a lot.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Is everybody on this forum six-foot-fucking-two?</p>
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<p>so, most days then?</p>
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<p>I assumed it was a prerequisite</p>
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<p>Reminds me of someone's tinder profile. "I am six feet and four inches. Those are two measurements."</p>
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Reminds me of someone's tinder profile. "I am six feet and four inches. Those are two measurements."</p></blockquote>
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<p>don't judge</p>