Highlanders v Crusaders
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<p>Careful, if you even mention him you will be called all sorts of names, which in the fern circlejerk counts as inspired debate.</p>
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I wasn't that impressed with Dagg last night. He did some good stuff but looked a bit rattled and did some bad offloads which put his team under pressure. His kicking game is always impressive though.</p></blockquote>
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Agree. His running game has improved but he's still nowhere near the player he was. Unless Smith gets injured I can't see him wearing Black again. -
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<p>Agree. His running game has improved but he's still nowhere near the player he was. Unless Smith gets injured I can't see him wearing Black again.</p>
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<p>I wouldn't be surprised to see Dagg in the wider squad, depending on the balance of the outside back selections, but can't see him starting ahead of Smith, especially now that Naholo is back. </p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="579644" data-time="1463182036"><p>I think there was clear separation on the Read try - it looked like Aaron Smith got his hand in there and if anyone was forcing the ball it was Smith. I have no problem whatsoever with that decision. At that point we were also running some great angles and cutting the Highlanders up. Would have been a deserved and well worked try.<br>
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The Romano one - well, I've seen those given and I've seen them not given. You can make a case that momentum got him there and if you watch in real time it looks pretty good. If you slow it down, you can clearly see him lever forward off his right arm, so you can make a pretty clear case for double movement as well. Would certainly have been handy if it had been given, but it wasn't and I'm not going to quibble. Romano gave away a stupid early penalty, but generally I thought he went OK.<br>
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As Canebry correctly says (in a roundabout way) - if you leak five good tries it's hard to complain. Fonotia is being given his caning (I thought he'd get pulled at half time). If Toddy had his time again, I'm sure he'd start Crotty. The other bad miss that sticks in my mind was Todd buying the Faddes' dummy - and that's another half-step given to Ardie. (my Dunedin bro-in-law tells me Faddes used to play flanker in under-age rugby).<br>
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Overall, I'm going to blame Johnny McNicol. If he'd pulled out the half-pike, double somersault when Ben Smith clattered him in the air I reckon we might have played the rest of the game a man up. I've only seen it once, but my impression was that Ben launched himself from a long way out and it was a pretty low percentage challenge. I will have another look.<br></p></blockquote>
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Dunno if there was separation when it hit the ground, but I think there is an argument he never really had control in the first place -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="579675" data-time="1463196651"><p>I wouldn't be surprised to see Dagg in the wider squad, depending on the balance of the outside back selections, but can't see him starting ahead of Smith, especially now that Naholo is back.</p></blockquote>
A fit Naholo picks himself, especially on current form. Smith is our incumbent fullback and his form hasn't fallen off a cliff so they're both in.<br><br>
Dagg's problem is he's a fullback so his spot is taken up by Beauden.<br><br>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="579677" data-time="1463197074"><p>Dunno if there was separation when it hit the ground, but I think there is an argument he never really had control in the first place</p></blockquote>
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the TMO say he'd lost it forward not that he ever appeard to have control hence a knock on? If he had merely fallen on it it would've been a try? There was the suggestion that Aaron had dislodged it from his first attempt and that Aaron may have actually grounded it first, IIRC that camefrom Meg's commentary. Certainly Keiran thought he had scored.<br><br>
I considered this no try ruling more controversial than Romano's.<br><br>
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<p>no idea what the TMO said, I had a 10 year old and 7 year old trying to talk to me about some rubbish (migtha been about school or some other nonsense) while I was trying to watch rugby...incredibly rude I though</p>
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I had a shitty stream and a wife who wanted to know why I wasn't cooking the food I had previously promised. I don't recall stating that specific night.<br><br>
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<p>I had a shitty stream and a wife who wanted to know why I wasn't cooking the food I had previously promised. I don't recall stating that specific night.<br><br>
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<p>I have been told a couple of times that I have selective amnesia. Maybe you suffer from the same thing? :biggrin:</p>