Alec Baldwin
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@duluth said in Alec Baldwin:
@majorrage said in Alec Baldwin:
But I do know that if you are handed a safe gun from a trusted colleague, just like you have 1,000 times before you have reason to think it’s safe.
More importantly, even if a gun is considered safe, you don't point it at someone and pull the trigger
I was just reading an article where they explained they were rehearsing a scene where baldwin "fires" down the lens where the director of photography and the director were standing, so it doesn't sound as if he did something wrong, or at least everyone involved was on the same page as to what was happening, he wasn't waving it around playing silly buggers
The more i read the more it sounds like there may have been several failings but the biggest being live ammo was not supposed to be on set
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@majorrage said in Alec Baldwin:
Corners are cut in every single walk of life where familiarity is in play.
Comments from other actors/movie sets suggest that the protocols are followed very strictly. As they should be.
If corners were cut people should be prosecuted
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@duluth said in Alec Baldwin:
@majorrage said in Alec Baldwin:
Corners are cut in every single walk of life where familiarity is in play.
Comments from other actors/movie sets suggest that the protocols are followed very strictly. As they should be.
If corners were cut people should be prosecuted
I think that’s also my point. I don’t believe other actors / movie set folks.
Not sure why, just don’t.
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@majorrage said in Alec Baldwin:
Corners are cut in every single walk of life where familiarity is in play.
Agreed, but not in the area of expertise of people you hire specifically for that purpose.
I wouldn't have taken live ammunition to the site. I would've provided an inert weapon for the setup and rehearsal of the scene until the cinematographer was happy. Then loaded and provided the gun with blank ammunition in front of the actor, providing it to the actor personally, not through an intermediary and let everyone on set know he had a "hot weapon".
If the familiarity came from the actor, the deputy director etc. then that in my opinion still rests on the armourer for not having the strength of character to insist - do it properly or don't do it at all.
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Did I read they used them for target practice with real guns? I can't believe they would be so stupid.
https://nypost.com/2021/10/26/rust-crew-used-alec-baldwins-prop-gun-for-plinking/ -
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@kirwan said in Alec Baldwin:
@frye said in Alec Baldwin:
Shame it was a regular person that died and not a celebrity.
Well that’s a nice way to view the world. What an awful thing to write.
Yeah, I just don't get that. We make them celebrity, not them.
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@kirwan said in Alec Baldwin:
@frye said in Alec Baldwin:
Shame it was a regular person that died and not a celebrity.
Well that’s a nice way to view the world. What an awful thing to write.
It's awful to suggest I'd swap the life of a celebrity for this young woman? Hmm, ok. Each to their own I guess. I'd suggest it's worse to suggest the opposite honestly.
At least we have diverted from the too soon jokes though.
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@taniwharugby said in Alec Baldwin:
@tim I have heard Cage is a bit of a fluffybunny to work with on set
Judging by what he presents on screen this doesn’t surprise me in the slightest
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seriously, every time this thread comes up in "unread" in my head all i can say is
Arec Borwin
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