Boxing Thread
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@raznomore said in Boxing Thread:
@mn5 he has the ability to “box” but he goes too easily if track. He had the plan and it was ducking fury up. No way was Tyson expecting an all out body attack. The problem though was when wilder kept doing it. Fury worked it out and the jabs to the body stopped. Wilder needed to go body jab and then hook to the body to keep fury guessing. Then to the head.
Great fight though. Made up for the AJ Usyk, one sided affair. Made up for about 20 years of heavyweight misery actually. The first one a goodie. The 2nd was a lesson in boxing by a very big man on a fairly one dimensional power hitter. The 3rd was an all time classic. You only get that when both fighters “bring it” and for wilders part, he brought the heart.
I guess the big problem for wilder ,all the new fresh ideas were good in theory , but once fatigue set in and he had been hit significantly , and the mind became foggy ,
he reverted back to his old ways once he started to fight on instinct , the further the fight went on , the more it started to resemble the second fight
old dogs new tricks
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Deontay Wilder's vaunted right hand -- the most dangerous weapon in boxing -- produced two fourth-round knockdowns of Tyson Fury in their all-time great heavyweight title fight Saturday, but the hand was far from 100% during the second half of the bout.
Wilder's co-manager, Shelly Finkel, told ESPN on Thursday that the former heavyweight champion suffered a broken right hand "somewhere around Round 6" of the 11th-round KO loss to Fury in Las Vegas.
Wilder will have surgery Monday in Atlanta to repair one of the middle metacarpals, and according to Finkel, won't be able to train for approximately 3½ months.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@raznomore said in Boxing Thread:
@mn5 he has the ability to “box” but he goes too easily if track. He had the plan and it was ducking fury up. No way was Tyson expecting an all out body attack. The problem though was when wilder kept doing it. Fury worked it out and the jabs to the body stopped. Wilder needed to go body jab and then hook to the body to keep fury guessing. Then to the head.
Great fight though. Made up for the AJ Usyk, one sided affair. Made up for about 20 years of heavyweight misery actually. The first one a goodie. The 2nd was a lesson in boxing by a very big man on a fairly one dimensional power hitter. The 3rd was an all time classic. You only get that when both fighters “bring it” and for wilders part, he brought the heart.
I guess the big problem for wilder ,all the new fresh ideas were good in theory , but once fatigue set in and he had been hit significantly , and the mind became foggy ,
he reverted back to his old ways once he started to fight on instinct , the further the fight went on , the more it started to resemble the second fight
old dogs new tricks
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.
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@raznomore said in Boxing Thread:
@mn5 he has the ability to “box” but he goes too easily if track. He had the plan and it was ducking fury up. No way was Tyson expecting an all out body attack. The problem though was when wilder kept doing it. Fury worked it out and the jabs to the body stopped. Wilder needed to go body jab and then hook to the body to keep fury guessing. Then to the head.
Great fight though. Made up for the AJ Usyk, one sided affair. Made up for about 20 years of heavyweight misery actually. The first one a goodie. The 2nd was a lesson in boxing by a very big man on a fairly one dimensional power hitter. The 3rd was an all time classic. You only get that when both fighters “bring it” and for wilders part, he brought the heart.
Posts like this are why we miss you on here.
I hope both these guys continue to fight for a long time.
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@bovidae said in Boxing Thread:
Deontay Wilder's vaunted right hand -- the most dangerous weapon in boxing -- produced two fourth-round knockdowns of Tyson Fury in their all-time great heavyweight title fight Saturday, but the hand was far from 100% during the second half of the bout.
Wilder's co-manager, Shelly Finkel, told ESPN on Thursday that the former heavyweight champion suffered a broken right hand "somewhere around Round 6" of the 11th-round KO loss to Fury in Las Vegas.
Wilder will have surgery Monday in Atlanta to repair one of the middle metacarpals, and according to Finkel, won't be able to train for approximately 3½ months.
I wonder which part of Tyson broke the hand. Tough guy!
And how limited would Wilder be without that right hand?! I'm tempted to go back and see if I can tell when it happened... -
Right at the bottom of a nothing article about AJ potentially changing trainers was...
In other heavyweight news, Britain’s Dillian Whyte has had to pull out of his scheduled fight with Sweden’s Otto Wallin in London on October 30.
Whyte suffered a shoulder injury at his training camp in Portugal.
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Clever duck from Whyte as Wallin would have most likely beaten him and taken his shot away at Fury.
Guess we'll be seeing Fury v Whyte sometime next year.
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@african-monkey said in Boxing Thread:
Clever duck from Whyte as Wallin would have most likely beaten him and taken his shot away at Fury.
Guess we'll be seeing Fury v Whyte sometime next year.
Funny how these training injuries in boxing always seem to happen at just the right moment.
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@african-monkey I hope so!
Tyson Fury had the 'most trouble' with Otto Wallin who is one win away from a rematch, says promoter Dmitriy Salita
Tyson Fury could be forced to offer a rematch to Otto Wallin, who will emerge as a future challenger for the British star if he defeats Dillian Whyte to claim the WBC interim heavyweight title this month
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Canelo v Plant sunday for the unification of the super middleweight division , should be a good fight . The division has never been unified before and should Canelo win he will be the first mexican to unify any division.
Plant is a good boxer , with quick hands good footwork and movement , technically very sound .
But Canelo is canelo , and this will be a different test for him .
Im tipping a similar fight to the Saunders fight, competitive for a while with Plant being a bit tricky for Canelo early , before Canelo steps up the pace and breaks him down .
Canelo wins I think its fair to say we are witnessing greatness .4 division champion and he will have cleaned out every belt in this division in just 11 months , and still going.
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@kiwiinmelb Yeah will be a comfortable win for Canelo in what is a weak division. It's simila to Terence Crawford cleaning out the 140 division. Light Heavyweight will be a much tougher division for him to conquer.
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@african-monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb Yeah will be a comfortable win for Canelo in what is a weak division. It's simila to Terence Crawford cleaning out the 140 division. Light Heavyweight will be a much tougher division for him to conquer.
gets to a point where you cant keep going up as well , you reach a limit , i think light heavy might be starting to stretch it with his physical dimensions
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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@african-monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb Yeah will be a comfortable win for Canelo in what is a weak division. It's simila to Terence Crawford cleaning out the 140 division. Light Heavyweight will be a much tougher division for him to conquer.
gets to a point where you cant keep going up as well , you reach a limit , i think light heavy might be starting to stretch it with his physical dimensions
That’s what Rocky Marciano would be if he fought today, possibly cruiserweight. Canelo could do it, unlike the Rock he has a reach more than his height for starters !
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@mn5 said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@african-monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb Yeah will be a comfortable win for Canelo in what is a weak division. It's simila to Terence Crawford cleaning out the 140 division. Light Heavyweight will be a much tougher division for him to conquer.
gets to a point where you cant keep going up as well , you reach a limit , i think light heavy might be starting to stretch it with his physical dimensions
That’s what Rocky Marciano would be if he fought today, possibly cruiserweight. Canelo could do it, unlike the Rock he has a reach more than his height for starters !
and when you are used to being the guy with the smaller reach , you have already worked out how to over come that , he is an amazing counter puncher
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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@mn5 said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@african-monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb Yeah will be a comfortable win for Canelo in what is a weak division. It's simila to Terence Crawford cleaning out the 140 division. Light Heavyweight will be a much tougher division for him to conquer.
gets to a point where you cant keep going up as well , you reach a limit , i think light heavy might be starting to stretch it with his physical dimensions
That’s what Rocky Marciano would be if he fought today, possibly cruiserweight. Canelo could do it, unlike the Rock he has a reach more than his height for starters !
and when you are used to being the guy with the smaller reach , you have already worked out how to over come that , he is an amazing counter puncher
Yep, awesome power which is always exciting to watch.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
I often wonder how much those bags actually weigh, no one seems to move them too much of get them to “break” like other bags.
