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<p>It will be interesting to see how good he actually is then. He must have quite a high skill set.</p>
<p>Fidow came off the bench in round 5. I only know that as that game was televised on Grass Roots Rugby.</p> -
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<p>There is no mention of him not being considered because of injury in the article announcing the team on the NZRFU website.</p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/News/29146/nz-squad-named-for-world-rugby-under-20-championship'>http://www.allblacks.com/News/29146/nz-squad-named-for-world-rugby-under-20-championship</a></p>
<p>Maybe he is not rated by the selectors of those teams?</p>
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<p>There is no mention of anyone being injured, though and I'm pretty sure someone must be (Peter Umaga-Jenson, for example).</p> -
<p>PUJ has to be injured, plus he went off injured in that first game against Aus. Surely he was good enough to make the RWC Squad.</p>
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<p>Emerson though had a blinder and didn't make it so maybe they just didn't feel like Peter was playing well enough to warrant selection. Everyone that has seen him play knows full well what he is capable of. </p>
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<p>In regards to Renton it was mentioned in the initial Oceania squad that he was injured so maybe they just don't think that he has had enough time in the saddle to perform by the time RWC comes around.</p> -
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<p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color:#333333;">Lowe and loosie Marino Mikaele-Tu'u were the only Hawke's Bay players out of the five who travelled with the Baby Blacks team which won the recent Oceania Championship in Australia to get the nod for Manchester.</span><br>
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Magpies head coach Craig Philpott, who is an assistant coach of the national team, said the other three, Emerson and frontrowers Mason Kean and Pouri Rakete-Stones, along with Magpies loosie <strong>Hugh Renton, who recently returned to club play in the capital</strong>, are among 10 players in a wider training group who are on standby in case of injuries.</span></span><br>
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<p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">"Mason [Emerson] went very close with some strong performances and put his best foot forward. But he was up against two guys who are already proven at the next level," Philpott said in reference to Chiefs player Shaun Stevenson and Blues player Jordan Trainor.</span></span><br>
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<p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Kean was hindered by an injury across the Ta$man and Rakete-Stones will be eligible for the Baby Blacks next year.</span></span></p>
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<p> <br><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=11637287'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=11637287</a></p> -
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<p>Does holding a HBRFU contract make you a Magpie? I would not classify him as one until he has actually taken part in an official first class fixture played by the first xv.</p>
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<p>No, it doesn't, but Renton was named in the Magpies squad in August last year. That officially made him a Magpie, but yeah, I do agree with what you're saying. I even find it difficult to see Cridge as a Magpie, because he only played a few minutes in one game in 2014 before he ended up in the sinbin and was never seen again.</p> -
<p>TV1 in thier headlines and one I heard on the radio are reporting 5 have been dropped, but nothing online says this...</p>
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Hawkes Bay will have a bloody talented squad if they can get all players on the field fit and firing. Im not sure if you Magpies supporters know but you were able to nab 3 promising players out of St Pats Town in Welington. <br><br>
Article on them also came out today. <br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://m.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503462&objectid=11637282">http://m.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503462&objectid=11637282</a><br><br>
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<p>Hawkes Bay will have a bloody talented squad if they can get all players on the field fit and firing. Im not sure if you Magpies supporters know but you were able to nab <strong>3 promising players out of St Pats Town</strong> in Welington.<br><br>
Article on them also came out today.<br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://m.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503462&objectid=11637282">http://m.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503462&objectid=11637282</a><br><br>
The Mags will have three promising no8s at their disposale. Mikaele Tu'u, Renton and Brighouse.</p>
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<p>Yes, we know this for a while (<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/college-sport/73839362/St-Pats-Town-Premier-1-winning-trio-sign-with-Hawkes-Bay-Rugby-Union'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/college-sport/73839362/St-Pats-Town-Premier-1-winning-trio-sign-with-Hawkes-Bay-Rugby-Union</a>). I doubt Hannon Brighouse (<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">loose forward</span>), <span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Jack Nelson-Murray (flanker) and Zac Donaldson (</span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">halfback</span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">) will make the Magpies though; they might first be tested in the development squad (HB Saracens).</span></p> -
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<p><strong><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(247,247,247);">The Mags will have three promising no8s at their disposale. Mikaele Tu'u, Renton and Brighouse.</span></strong></p>
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<p>Not to mention Trent Boswell-Wakefield and Joe Penitito.</p> -
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<p><strong><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">The Mags will have three promising no8s at their disposale. Mikaele Tu'u, Renton and Brighouse.</span></strong></p>
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<p>Not to mention Trent Boswell-Wakefield and Joe Penitito.</p>
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<p>I don't know where Wellington's head is at by letting all these guys go. Henry Stowers (Under 20s 2015) and Teariki Ben Nicholas have also been dejected from the Capital recently. Adam Hill has also gone from last year. This means that Blackwell, Shields, Savea and Fifita are our only loose forwards with Savea likely to be included in the All Blacks.</p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">There are a number or good players plying their trade in club rugby but whether they are capabale of making it at Mitre10 cup level remains to be seen. Luke Tau’alupe (Ories), Greg Foe (Poneke), Mateaki Kafatolu (Petone – but seems to have injury problems) have looked the best of the No 8s I have seen so far this season. Matt Peni (MSP) is also making a comeback from some major injury that kept him out last season but needs to trim a bit of weight before becoming a serious contender. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">I keep hearing good things about Mitchell Markov (Upper Hutt) at openside but have not seen him play this season, could be a good replacement for Pau Halafihi who seems to have disappeared over to Aussie (he had some sort of major shoulder injury the last time I was talking to him). Seem to recall Markov being a bit on the short side when I saw him last (about three seasons ago).</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">On the blindside I have been quite impressed by the Hutt Old Boys guy, Lui Okeamoa-Luamanu, but he will need to lift his work rate a bit. Kane Leaupepe (Ories) has been going good at lock in the two games I have seen him but he has also played blindside as well. Both these guys are big physical specimens.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt;">None of these are “schoolboy wonders†coming through the system so I guess they will all miss out to some guy straight out of school yet to prove himself against open grade players. I will see what I can find out about from "those in the know" about these boy wonders over a few beers next Saturday night (will probably be at Poneke v Wellington).</span></p>
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<p>That is some next level dumb stuff from Ardie especially. Quits 7s to push for an AB spot in a few weeks - is in a very tight race with Matt Todd and then goes and breaks curfew.....</p>
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<p>Not to mention if it turns out to be more than just a simple break of team protocols, although it appears it was as simple as a breach of team rules (although the night before a match)</p>
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<p>Jeez, Julian seems to really be wanting to give someone else a shot at that 11 jersey!</p>
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<p>Savea's/Eves - young and stupid.</p>
<p>Vito - 'fuck it' I'm off anyway</p>
<p>But Jane? Shouldn't he as a senior guy who really needs to be playing his cards right to stay on the field be a better influence on these fellas?</p>
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<p>Good job dropping them, will be an interesting one against the reds, still picking a win</p> -
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<p>Not to mention if it turns out to be more than just a simple break of team protocols, although it appears it was as simple as a breach of team rules <strong>(although the night before a match)</strong></p>
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<p>Jeez, Julian seems to really be wanting to give someone else a shot at that 11 jersey!</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11638057'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11638057</a></p>
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<p>The article says it was the Tuesday before the Sharks match. If it was the night before I'd hope for a heck of a lot worse punishment than one game</p> -
<p>I obviously didn't read it properly...not like this is the first time Jane has been out before a game.</p>
