All Blacks vs Springboks II

[Machpants]

Boks deserved to win, cos they can play hard man rugby. But this is going to be the norm for this RWC cycle, ABs are flat track bullies, with no guts or tactics versus SA style of team.

Bring on regime change

[Tim]

Why the fuck wasn't Taukei'aho on the bench. Why the hell play a hooker against the boks whose throwing is poor?

[Chris]

From the starting 15,
Savea was the only LF who stood up,tight Five were shit.
Jordie was great , Weber and Reece played well.
Reiko was pretty good apart from a couple of dropped high balls.
Beuden Barrett had a couple of great runs but generally was pretty shit.
He didn’t control the game at all.
Savea is just not a Captain.

[Kruse]

Yeah... that hurts.
But - the Bokke deserved that.
Around the half-time mark - I was kinda thinking "is this what it looks like when powder is kept dry... and then actually brought out for use?"
Coz... yeah - they played the full game... using what worked against us from the last game, but then also bringing in the backs and counter-attacks.
Well done. Fuck ya.

The negative view:
...yeah, I'm with the view that we should have been able to defuse all of that with tactics, Plan B, coaching, blah blah blah. And we just plain didn't.

[Kirwan]

Positive is Jordie is now locked in as 15, and goalkicker. He was dominating out there.

[Victor Meldrew]

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

It's incredibly dumb play to be soft at the contact trying to recycle and count down the clock.

That wasn't the only dumb thing on display tonight, not by a long way.

And whatever character the team was showing in the last 2 games (and it was great to see) went missing tonight. No-one seemed to be taking ownership when things weren't going well - players seemed to be just wandering about.

[kev]

@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@kev said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

Who was calling the lineouts? Whomever had a shit game.

The only real unforgivable one was that throw to the front when we are 5m out.

Ardie looked to have called that

What about the one to the front when 5m out

[ACT Crusader]

@no-quarter said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

Shit tactics. Didn't adjust to their ruck tactics.

Very poor captain selection.

No real game plan worse than last week,we learnt nothing.

I blame TJP and Mo'unga at the end. Pick and goes are always 50/50.

Mo'unga really struggles against teams like the Boks and England who are super physical on defense. He got smashed when he came on and hardly featured after that.

Eh? He took the line on at those two forwards and got in between them and behind. Created a penalty for us.

[Yeetyaah]

Must be strange for the players being given a trophy after a tough loss.

[Victor Meldrew]

@chris

Pretty hard to disagree with any of that. I'd only add that Havilli didn't have a great game either.

[Tordah]

Retallick has regressed hard the last two seasons. We missed Whitelock out there, more than A Smith (who was replaced competently by Weber).

[Chris]

@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

Shit tactics. Didn't adjust to their ruck tactics.

Very poor captain selection.

No real game plan worse than last week,we learnt nothing.

I blame TJP and Mo'unga at the end. Pick and goes are always 50/50.

How the fuck was it Moungas fault, He had no control with TJ barking shit from
The base .

[MadGav]

Enjoyed the game. Well done Boks, good to see you back.

[canefan]

The only consolation is we were missing Cane, Whitelock, Smith. That's a lot of leadership and quality there. And the Boks were simply more desperate

[Victor Meldrew]

@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@kev said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

Who was calling the lineouts? Whomever had a shit game.

The only real unforgivable one was that throw to the front when we are 5m out.

Ardie looked to have called that

OK call. Poor execution.

[antipodean]

How is it the Wallabies can put the Boks to the sword?

[MrDenmore]

If you had to pin it one one thing, it was the absence of Whitelock and adequate leadership, again.

[Chris]

@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@no-quarter said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

Shit tactics. Didn't adjust to their ruck tactics.

Very poor captain selection.

No real game plan worse than last week,we learnt nothing.

I blame TJP and Mo'unga at the end. Pick and goes are always 50/50.

Mo'unga really struggles against teams like the Boks and England who are super physical on defense. He got smashed when he came on and hardly featured after that.

Eh? He took the line on at those two forwards and got in between them and behind. Created a penalty for us.

Exactl I agree , stupid comment that one

[canefan]

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

How is it the Wallabies can put the Boks to the sword?

They always rise for us. Always

[Bovidae]

@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

How the fuck was it Moungas fault, He had no control with TJ barking shit from
The base .

He needed to demand the ball from that ruck and TJP give it to him. As I said play territory and kick into the corner with time nearly up. You know, like in the 2015 RWC SF.