New Zealand under 20

taniwharugby

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Who would you prefer taniwha?? Barrett or Goodhue?
 
On another note I had a look on clubrugby.co.nz and apparently Isaia Walker-Leawere and TJ Va'a both made returns from injury over the weekend. Hopefully they can both put a case forward to be included in that 20s World Cup side. Isaia being the incumbent from the NZ Schools would add much needed size to our forward pack. 
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??? 
 
Goodhue was captain of NZ U20 last year (or was it the year before?)...so Barrett is just newer and shinier, oh, and from canes region I guess???

SammyC

No need to choose, we will have both

taniwharugby

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No need to choose, we will have both :)
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Its the Crusader way ;)

ACT Crusader

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="578324" data-time="1462776200">No need to choose, we will have both :)</blockquote>
 
Well we are rebuilding...

KiwiMurph

U20s squad for World Champs named.
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/News/29146/nz-squad-named-for-world-rugby-under-20-championship'>http://www.allblacks.com/News/29146/nz-squad-named-for-world-rugby-under-20-championship</a>
 
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FORWARDS Prop Ayden Johnstone Waikato Shaun Stodart Otago Sean Paranihi Canterbury Alex Fidow Wellington Sosefo Kautai Waikato Hooker Leni Apisai, captain Wellington/Hurricanes Asafo Aumua Wellington Lock Quinten Strange Ta$man Hamish Dalzell Canterbury Lock /Loose Forward Isaia Walker-Leawere Wellington Fin Hoeata Taranaki Loose Forward Mitchell Jacobson Waikato Luke Jacobson Waikato Dalton Papaliâ€™i Auckland Marino Mikaele Tu'u Hawkeâ€™s Bay Hapakuki Moala-Liava'a North Harbour BACKS Halfback Jonathan Taumateine Counties Manukau Sam Nock Northland/Blues First five-eighth Stephen Perofeta Taranaki TJ Vaâ€™a Wellington/Hurricanes Midfield Orbyn Leger Counties Manukau Jordie Barrett Canterbury Patelesio Tomkinson Otago/Highlanders Midfield/wing Jonah Lowe Hawkeâ€™s Bay Malo Tuitama Wellington Outside back Caleb Makene Canterbury Shaun Stevenson Waikato/Chiefs Jordan Trainor Waikato/Blues</blockquote>

bobily

No Emerson is a bit surprising. Is he injured?

Frye

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No, not that I've read. Either a bad call or some amazing outside back talent available. 
I see Robertson has said there is a good balance because there is 9 guys who'll be available next year, thus providing "youth and exuberance". That's just great Scott, I'm sure the exuberance a 19 year old brings to a side is just so much more than what a 20 year old does. <img src="http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/018/489/nick-young-confused-face-300x256_nqlyaa.png" alt="nick-young-confused-face-300x256_nqlyaa.">

Canes4life

Wow no Emerson. Umaga Jensen is out inured and it hasnt been mentioned so maybe Emerson picked up something in that first game aswell.

Stargazer

Really disappointed for Emerson. He was on the bench for the second game and came on quite late (making immediate impact). He was outstanding it the first game. I really can't believe that he has not been named, especially because Tuitama was terrible in that second game and also Caleb Makene wasn't that great (despite his try).

Canes4life

Crazy considering Emerson's first game dominance. He would have provided us with much needed pace as well. I guess that just shows the depth coming through age grade rugby. Quality players will always miss out. 
 
Also by the sounds of Scott Robertson in the interview he sees Va'a as the first choice first five over Perofeta.

Canes4life

Id say the top team from the squad selected would look something like this:
 
1. Ayden Johnstone (Waikato)
2. Leni Apisai (Wellington)
3. Alex Fidow (Wellington)
4. Hamish Dalzell (Canterbury)
5. Isaia Walker-Leawere (Wellington)
6. Luke Jacobson (Waikato)
7. Mitchel Jacobson (Waikato)
8. Marino Mikaele Tu'u (Hawkes Bay)
9. Sam Nock (Northland)
10. TJ Va'a (Wellington)
11. Jonah Lowe (Hawkes Bay)
12. Scott Barrett (Canterbury)
13. Sio Tomkinson (Otago)
14. Shaun Stevenson (Waikato)
15. Jordan Trainor (Waikato)

KiwiMurph

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Id say the top team from the squad selected would look something like this:
 
 
10. TJ Va'a (Wellington)
11. Jonah Lowe (Hawkes Bay)
12. Scott Barrett (Canterbury)
13. Sio Tomkinson (Otago)
14. Shaun Stevenson (Waikato)
15. Jordan Trainor (Waikato)
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I've heard of showing versatility to try and crack the ABs but this would be next level....

Dice

I thought Taumateine looked better than Nock in the 2nd game. It'll be close between the two for the starting job.
 
Fidow might be best used off the bench. He looked horrible in the last game as a starter.

Stargazer

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I've heard of showing versatility to try and crack the ABs but this would be next level....
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At least, he didn't put Karl Lowe on the left wing ...

bobily

Perofeta has also played a bit of fullback, so if we move Trainor to the left wing, we might be able to fit him in too. This would match what has been done in previous seasons with Hunt, McKenzie, Barrett etc. been used there previously.

Canes4life

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I've heard of showing versatility to try and crack the ABs but this would be next level....
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Haha my bad. Jordie Barrett would probably suit second five better.

leytonandamanda

No mason Emerson is a huge mistake! Best player in 1st test against aus yet can't make the squad. 
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KiwiMurph

What's the verdict on Perofeta? I know he played Heartland Rugby last year and is set to play Mitre 10 Cup for Naki this year - Blues are constantly on the hunt for a new 10 - does he look to have a higher ceiling than Ihaia West?

bobily

He looks pretty classy, but at this level it doesn't necessarily mean he will kick on (Bleyendaal carved up at this level, but apparently had issues with confidence and never kicked on. Kirkpatrick too had issues). I'd say he has the potential to be better, though.

bobily

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No mason Emerson is a huge mistake! Best player in 1st test against aus yet can't make the squad. 
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Scott Robertson placed a huge emphasis on versatility when talking about the backline selections. Perhaps Emerson was considered only a contender for the wing spot, and so was left out for this reason? Given he looks to be the best winger, I think it is a poor excuse, but I don't really rate Scott Robertson, and it wouldn't surprise me if he had some bizarre reason.

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