New Zealand under 20

Ruthless

Its keekin lik' a stoatin guid RWC tournament this year. Sooth africa wull field a competitive gang. Englain wull field a pure tough gang. Oz ur keekin strong...NZ nae tae ill either. Did a'body see th' U20s Australian/Reds centur scoring against th' Crusaders oan th' weekend? Watch him thois weekend whin th' Reds speil th' Canes. Thay ca' him Mango... Pool A New Zealand Wales Ireland Georgia Pool B England Australia Scotland Italy Pool C South Africa France Argentina Japan Match day 1: Tuesday 7 June France vs Argentina, AJ Bell Stadium. Kick-off 3.15pm Australia vs Scotland, AJ Bell Stadium. Kick-off 5.30pm New Zealand vs Georgia, AJ Bell Stadium. Kick-off 7.45pm South Africa vs Japan, Academy Stadium. Kick-off 3.15pm Wales vs Ireland, Academy Stadium. Kick-off 5.30pm England vs Italy, Academy Stadium. Kick-off 7.45pm Match day 2: Saturday 11 June Australia vs italy, AJ Bell Stadium. Kick-off 1.30pm France vs Japan, AJ Bell Stadium. Kick-off 3.45pm South Africa vs Argentina, AJ Bell Stadium. Kick-off 6pm New Zealand vs Ireland, Academy Stadium. Kick-off 1.30pm Wales vs Georgia, Academy Stadium. Kick-off 3.45pm England vs Scotland, Academy Stadium, 6pm Match day 3: Wednesday 15 June Argentina v Japan, AJ Bell Stadium. Kick-off 3.15pm New Zealand v Wales, AJ Bell Stadium. Kick-off 5.30pm England v Argentina, AJ Bell Stadium. Kick-off 7.45pm Scotland v Italy, Academy Stadium. Kick-off 3.15pm Ireland v Georgia, Academy Stadium. Kick-off 5.30pm South Africa v France, Academy Stadium. Kick-off 7.45pm

Canes4life

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I hear his brother has had a chat to him about Super rugby. That brother happens to be Scott...... :)
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Second five is already taken at the Crusaders with Ryan Crotty. It would make sense for him to come to the Canes where his dad played, where his brother became an All Black and where the second five position is still wide open IMO. I guess it depends where he's studying. That is probably the biggest factor in a lot of players decisions these days.

Stargazer

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Second five is already taken at the Crusaders with Ryan Crotty. It would make sense for him to come to the Canes where his dad played, where his brother became an All Black and where the second five position is still wide open IMO. I guess it depends where he's studying. That is probably the biggest factor in a lot of players decisions these days.
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Fonotia is leaving next season, so there's a midfield spot available at the Crusaders next season. I also wouldn't be surprised if Fruean won't come back next season. As Crotty can play 12 and 13, the Crusaders could use a talented, young midfielder to fight for a spot with Havili. I'm quite confident, that there will be a Barrett brother who will become an All Black at the Crusaders, too. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Scott makes the EOYT squad already this year.

taniwharugby

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Fonotia is leaving next season, so there's a midfield spot available at the Crusaders next season. I also wouldn't be surprised if Fruean won't come back next season. As Crotty can play 12 and 13, the Crusaders could use a talented, young midfielder to fight for a spot with Havili. I'm quite confident, that there will be a Barrett brother who will become an All Black at the Crusaders, too. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Scott makes the EOYT squad already this year.
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They have Jack Goodhue already in the Canterbury system and part of the 2016 Crusaders squad, has been injured and only just back playing I understand.

Canes4life

Who would you prefer taniwha?? Barrett or Goodhue?
 
On another note I had a look on clubrugby.co.nz and apparently Isaia Walker-Leawere and TJ Va'a both made returns from injury over the weekend. Hopefully they can both put a case forward to be included in that 20s World Cup side. Isaia being the incumbent from the NZ Schools would add much needed size to our forward pack.

Canes4life

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Fonotia is leaving next season, so there's a midfield spot available at the Crusaders next season. I also wouldn't be surprised if Fruean won't come back next season. As Crotty can play 12 and 13, the Crusaders could use a talented, young midfielder to fight for a spot with Havili. I'm quite confident, that there will be a Barrett brother who will become an All Black at the Crusaders, too. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Scott makes the EOYT squad already this year.
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I like the look of Scott Barrett. He may even push Romano out of the All Blacks this year.

taniwharugby

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Who would you prefer taniwha?? Barrett or Goodhue?
 
On another note I had a look on clubrugby.co.nz and apparently Isaia Walker-Leawere and TJ Va'a both made returns from injury over the weekend. Hopefully they can both put a case forward to be included in that 20s World Cup side. Isaia being the incumbent from the NZ Schools would add much needed size to our forward pack. 
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??? 
 
Goodhue was captain of NZ U20 last year (or was it the year before?)...so Barrett is just newer and shinier, oh, and from canes region I guess???

SammyC

No need to choose, we will have both

taniwharugby

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No need to choose, we will have both :)
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Its the Crusader way ;)

ACT Crusader

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="578324" data-time="1462776200">No need to choose, we will have both :)</blockquote>
 
Well we are rebuilding...

KiwiMurph

U20s squad for World Champs named.
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/News/29146/nz-squad-named-for-world-rugby-under-20-championship'>http://www.allblacks.com/News/29146/nz-squad-named-for-world-rugby-under-20-championship</a>
 
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FORWARDS Prop Ayden Johnstone Waikato Shaun Stodart Otago Sean Paranihi Canterbury Alex Fidow Wellington Sosefo Kautai Waikato Hooker Leni Apisai, captain Wellington/Hurricanes Asafo Aumua Wellington Lock Quinten Strange Ta$man Hamish Dalzell Canterbury Lock /Loose Forward Isaia Walker-Leawere Wellington Fin Hoeata Taranaki Loose Forward Mitchell Jacobson Waikato Luke Jacobson Waikato Dalton Papaliâ€™i Auckland Marino Mikaele Tu'u Hawkeâ€™s Bay Hapakuki Moala-Liava'a North Harbour BACKS Halfback Jonathan Taumateine Counties Manukau Sam Nock Northland/Blues First five-eighth Stephen Perofeta Taranaki TJ Vaâ€™a Wellington/Hurricanes Midfield Orbyn Leger Counties Manukau Jordie Barrett Canterbury Patelesio Tomkinson Otago/Highlanders Midfield/wing Jonah Lowe Hawkeâ€™s Bay Malo Tuitama Wellington Outside back Caleb Makene Canterbury Shaun Stevenson Waikato/Chiefs Jordan Trainor Waikato/Blues</blockquote>

bobily

No Emerson is a bit surprising. Is he injured?

Frye

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No, not that I've read. Either a bad call or some amazing outside back talent available. 
I see Robertson has said there is a good balance because there is 9 guys who'll be available next year, thus providing "youth and exuberance". That's just great Scott, I'm sure the exuberance a 19 year old brings to a side is just so much more than what a 20 year old does. <img src="http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/018/489/nick-young-confused-face-300x256_nqlyaa.png" alt="nick-young-confused-face-300x256_nqlyaa.">

Canes4life

Wow no Emerson. Umaga Jensen is out inured and it hasnt been mentioned so maybe Emerson picked up something in that first game aswell.

Stargazer

Really disappointed for Emerson. He was on the bench for the second game and came on quite late (making immediate impact). He was outstanding it the first game. I really can't believe that he has not been named, especially because Tuitama was terrible in that second game and also Caleb Makene wasn't that great (despite his try).

Canes4life

Crazy considering Emerson's first game dominance. He would have provided us with much needed pace as well. I guess that just shows the depth coming through age grade rugby. Quality players will always miss out. 
 
Also by the sounds of Scott Robertson in the interview he sees Va'a as the first choice first five over Perofeta.

Canes4life

Id say the top team from the squad selected would look something like this:
 
1. Ayden Johnstone (Waikato)
2. Leni Apisai (Wellington)
3. Alex Fidow (Wellington)
4. Hamish Dalzell (Canterbury)
5. Isaia Walker-Leawere (Wellington)
6. Luke Jacobson (Waikato)
7. Mitchel Jacobson (Waikato)
8. Marino Mikaele Tu'u (Hawkes Bay)
9. Sam Nock (Northland)
10. TJ Va'a (Wellington)
11. Jonah Lowe (Hawkes Bay)
12. Scott Barrett (Canterbury)
13. Sio Tomkinson (Otago)
14. Shaun Stevenson (Waikato)
15. Jordan Trainor (Waikato)

KiwiMurph

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Id say the top team from the squad selected would look something like this:
 
 
10. TJ Va'a (Wellington)
11. Jonah Lowe (Hawkes Bay)
12. Scott Barrett (Canterbury)
13. Sio Tomkinson (Otago)
14. Shaun Stevenson (Waikato)
15. Jordan Trainor (Waikato)
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I've heard of showing versatility to try and crack the ABs but this would be next level....

Dice

I thought Taumateine looked better than Nock in the 2nd game. It'll be close between the two for the starting job.
 
Fidow might be best used off the bench. He looked horrible in the last game as a starter.

Stargazer

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I've heard of showing versatility to try and crack the ABs but this would be next level....
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At least, he didn't put Karl Lowe on the left wing ...

The Silver Fern

New Zealand under 20