Documentaries
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@canefan said in Documentaries:
@nta said in Documentaries:
Up to episode 4 of Turning Point - episode 3 was about the bush government and then Obama's shortcomings.
Interesting stuff
Stark difference in the apparent approach of the FBI and the CIA/ military. The torture strategy sounds like it did not yield much intel, and the stories of what was being done and the images of detainees in Guantamo must have been gold for Al Qaeda and other terrorist recruiters
The CIA: when all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
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@nta said in Documentaries:
@canefan said in Documentaries:
@nta said in Documentaries:
Up to episode 4 of Turning Point - episode 3 was about the bush government and then Obama's shortcomings.
Interesting stuff
Stark difference in the apparent approach of the FBI and the CIA/ military. The torture strategy sounds like it did not yield much intel, and the stories of what was being done and the images of detainees in Guantamo must have been gold for Al Qaeda and other terrorist recruiters
The CIA: when all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
Even though it was unlawful (and did I hear it right still going on today?), I understand the enthusiasm for Stellar wind. They have an insidious enemy that doesn't fit conventionally and they are scared. These guys walked in right under their noses. But they had a bunch of pieces, and the fact that the CIA and FBI weren't on the same page meant that they failed to start putting it together until afterwards
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@canefan said in Documentaries:
@nta said in Documentaries:
@canefan said in Documentaries:
@nta said in Documentaries:
Up to episode 4 of Turning Point - episode 3 was about the bush government and then Obama's shortcomings.
Interesting stuff
Stark difference in the apparent approach of the FBI and the CIA/ military. The torture strategy sounds like it did not yield much intel, and the stories of what was being done and the images of detainees in Guantamo must have been gold for Al Qaeda and other terrorist recruiters
The CIA: when all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
Even though it was unlawful (and did I hear it right still going on today?), I understand the enthusiasm for Stellar wind. They have an insidious enemy that doesn't fit conventionally and they are scared. These guys walked in right under their noses. But they had a bunch of pieces, and the fact that the CIA and FBI weren't on the same page meant that they failed to start putting it together until afterwards
Yes the collection is still ongoing, but it isn't an issue until they need to listen to it, apparently...
Thing is, phone calls and emails aren't going to help with certain other apps that don't operate in a conventional sense and are encrypted.
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@nta said in Documentaries:
@canefan said in Documentaries:
@nta said in Documentaries:
@canefan said in Documentaries:
@nta said in Documentaries:
Up to episode 4 of Turning Point - episode 3 was about the bush government and then Obama's shortcomings.
Interesting stuff
Stark difference in the apparent approach of the FBI and the CIA/ military. The torture strategy sounds like it did not yield much intel, and the stories of what was being done and the images of detainees in Guantamo must have been gold for Al Qaeda and other terrorist recruiters
The CIA: when all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
Even though it was unlawful (and did I hear it right still going on today?), I understand the enthusiasm for Stellar wind. They have an insidious enemy that doesn't fit conventionally and they are scared. These guys walked in right under their noses. But they had a bunch of pieces, and the fact that the CIA and FBI weren't on the same page meant that they failed to start putting it together until afterwards
Yes the collection is still ongoing, but it isn't an issue until they need to listen to it, apparently...
Thing is, phone calls and emails aren't going to help with certain other apps that don't operate in a conventional sense and are encrypted.
Yes, the tech has moved on a long way. I am sure they would love to have back door access into all other social media platforms if they don't already
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@canefan said in Documentaries:
@nta said in Documentaries:
Up to episode 4 of Turning Point - episode 3 was about the bush government and then Obama's shortcomings.
Interesting stuff
Stark difference in the apparent approach of the FBI and the CIA/ military. The torture strategy sounds like it did not yield much intel, and the stories of what was being done and the images of detainees in Guantamo must have been gold for Al Qaeda and other terrorist recruiters
There is actually a pretty good movie on amazon prime called "the mauritanian", that covers this era, sure there is obviously a bit of dramatization, but also worth a watch
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@bayimports said in Documentaries:
@canefan said in Documentaries:
@nta said in Documentaries:
Up to episode 4 of Turning Point - episode 3 was about the bush government and then Obama's shortcomings.
Interesting stuff
Stark difference in the apparent approach of the FBI and the CIA/ military. The torture strategy sounds like it did not yield much intel, and the stories of what was being done and the images of detainees in Guantamo must have been gold for Al Qaeda and other terrorist recruiters
There is actually a pretty good movie on amazon prime called "the mauritanian", that covers this era, sure there is obviously a bit of dramatization, but also worth a watch
Also on prime is The Looming Tower which is a very good mini series on the FBI/CIA in the lead up to 9/11.
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The Nine Lives of Ozzy Osbourne
Definitely worth a watch, having read a book on Black Sabbath I didn’t really find out anything I didn’t already know but interviews with the man himself and his bandmates, kids and of course Sharon were really interesting. What a quirky, weird guy who just happened to co-create one of the most awesome genres in music history.
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Summer of Soul is now available on Disney.
Previously mentioned in the music thread I think but thoroughly deserves a spot here as it is way less of a concert film and way more an excellent time capsule showcasing the black society of the late 60s.
This series of weekend concerts were only a year after the tumultuous 1968 with the Detroit and Memphis riots and assassination of MLK.
Apart from that the bits of music are good, as in being previously unseen footage but tbf the musicians stand out more than the vocalists (Mahalia Jackson and Mavis Staples aside) simply due to the nature of the outdoor setup. They didn't even seem to have foldback monitors to hear themselves.
Never realised what an awesome drummer Sly and the Family Stone had. He was aawesome. -
What Drives Us
Dave Grohl's documentary on bands and what it meant to do their early van tours.
Because you are Dave Grohl, you get to interview pretty much anyone, so the role call is pretty impressive. And you can tell the passion with which stories are told.
it's a little light actually, it could have been a bit longer, and delve a little more, as i am sure some fucking amazing stories were told that ended up on the cutting room floor. But it's still a fun music documentary.
I love Metallica, but Lars Ulrich is such a tool.
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A Killing In Tiger Bay
Ah fuck man, this is equal parts horrifying, heartbreaking and infuriating - large measures of all. Utterly moving.
About the murder of Lynette White in Butetown, Cardiff in '88, the investigation that followed and the persecution of "The Cardiff Five". I've seen one or two other docos on this, but this 3-parter is even more eye opening, with extensive interviews with the remaining 3 from the Cardiff Five.
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The movies that made us
Netflix
Doco series that covers the making of some iconic films. First episode I watched wad about Die Hard. Others include Home Alone, Ghostbusters, Pretty woman. Great stuff providing the back story of some of my favourite films
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@mariner4life said in Documentaries:
What Drives Us
Dave Grohl's documentary on bands and what it meant to do their early van tours.
Because you are Dave Grohl, you get to interview pretty much anyone, so the role call is pretty impressive. And you can tell the passion with which stories are told.
it's a little light actually, it could have been a bit longer, and delve a little more, as i am sure some fucking amazing stories were told that ended up on the cutting room floor. But it's still a fun music documentary.
I love Metallica, but Lars Ulrich is such a tool.
Have been meaning to watch this, will do so tonight.
I don’t think Lars is quite as irritating as people make out.
If anything Dave Grohl and his whole “I’m a massive Rock Star but I’m just SUCH a nice down to earth guy” act is just as annoying.
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@mn5 said in Documentaries:
@mariner4life said in Documentaries:
What Drives Us
Dave Grohl's documentary on bands and what it meant to do their early van tours.
Because you are Dave Grohl, you get to interview pretty much anyone, so the role call is pretty impressive. And you can tell the passion with which stories are told.
it's a little light actually, it could have been a bit longer, and delve a little more, as i am sure some fucking amazing stories were told that ended up on the cutting room floor. But it's still a fun music documentary.
I love Metallica, but Lars Ulrich is such a tool.
Have been meaning to watch this, will do so tonight.
I don’t think Lars is quite as irritating as people make out.
If anything Dave Grohl and his whole “I’m a massive Rock Star but I’m just SUCH a nice down to earth guy” act is just as annoying.
Combined with his kooky theories on AIDS.
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@canefan said in Documentaries:
The movies that made us
Netflix
Doco series that covers the making of some iconic films. First episode I watched wad about Die Hard. Others include Home Alone, Ghostbusters, Pretty woman. Great stuff providing the back story of some of my favourite films
Liked this. Good to be able to pick out the eps that interest you rather than have them all jumbled up.
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@antipodean said in Documentaries:
@mn5 said in Documentaries:
@mariner4life said in Documentaries:
What Drives Us
Dave Grohl's documentary on bands and what it meant to do their early van tours.
Because you are Dave Grohl, you get to interview pretty much anyone, so the role call is pretty impressive. And you can tell the passion with which stories are told.
it's a little light actually, it could have been a bit longer, and delve a little more, as i am sure some fucking amazing stories were told that ended up on the cutting room floor. But it's still a fun music documentary.
I love Metallica, but Lars Ulrich is such a tool.
Have been meaning to watch this, will do so tonight.
I don’t think Lars is quite as irritating as people make out.
If anything Dave Grohl and his whole “I’m a massive Rock Star but I’m just SUCH a nice down to earth guy” act is just as annoying.
Combined with his kooky theories on AIDS.
Pray tell? Or send a link?
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@antipodean Thx for that….wow…. Thabo Mbeki was prez here and went down that same rabbit hole … undeniably costing lives. One can only wonder how many were potentially lost through Foo Fighters collective influence. Actually almost find it a bit odd he hasn’t owned the mistake … Maybe the legal ramifications aren’t worth the ballache….
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@nta said in Documentaries:
@canefan said in Documentaries:
@nta said in Documentaries:
@canefan said in Documentaries:
@nta said in Documentaries:
Up to episode 4 of Turning Point - episode 3 was about the bush government and then Obama's shortcomings.
Interesting stuff
Stark difference in the apparent approach of the FBI and the CIA/ military. The torture strategy sounds like it did not yield much intel, and the stories of what was being done and the images of detainees in Guantamo must have been gold for Al Qaeda and other terrorist recruiters
The CIA: when all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
Even though it was unlawful (and did I hear it right still going on today?), I understand the enthusiasm for Stellar wind. They have an insidious enemy that doesn't fit conventionally and they are scared. These guys walked in right under their noses. But they had a bunch of pieces, and the fact that the CIA and FBI weren't on the same page meant that they failed to start putting it together until afterwards
Yes the collection is still ongoing, but it isn't an issue until they need to listen to it, apparently...
Thing is, phone calls and emails aren't going to help with certain other apps that don't operate in a conventional sense and are encrypted.
Finally finished the series. Much of the 20 years was pretty disastrous, and none of the Presidents comes out looking that great. All that money, all that destruction and loss of life, and Afghanistan is right back where they were 20 years ago. The Taleban will destroy any good that came of the western occupation
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The Black Godfather
Netflix
Documentary tracing the extraordinary life of Clarence Avant. He came from humble beginnings in the Jim Crow South and rose to be the ultimate kingmaker in music, film, TV and politics. Pretty awesome for a guy I never heard of
The Defiant ones
4 episode series on Netflix, chronicling the extraordinary lives of Dr Dre and Jimmy Iovine. Contains a who's who of rock pop and hip hop from the last 4 years
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