Chiefs vs Highlanders

hurricane

Tough for the Cheifs now to win this with a man in the bin for the next 10 minutes. Really they needed to start well after half time. Instead they will be lucky to keep the Landers off the score board.

Siam

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Gunner" data-cid="577680" data-time="1462609229">
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If this is a card, its a fucking joke. 
Ngatai was committed to the tackle (head down) before Dixon jumped into the tackle. 
Not his fault IMO
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But that's the rationale when jumping with eyes only the ball - and that leads to reds
 
Not saying it's the right precedent but it's a reality

taniwharugby

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SouthernMan" data-cid="577689" data-time="1462609430">
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Absolutely pathetic that isn't a red card. The reasoning behind it staying at yellow was The fact Dixon landed on his side. When should the luck of the victim impact on the punishment. Needed to be red.
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they used that reasoning for the red card on Le Roux...the fact he landed on his head.

Billy Tell

Hmmm this debate is typical of rugby forums
 
1) Chiefs supporter: fckn ref, not even a penalty
2) Clan supporter: definite red, looking at a couple of weeks on the sidelines
 
Take the patches off people...and this is coming from a Crusaders man :p

Calf

Ngatai grabbed his legs low and then stood up. Only one way that tackle was going to end. Nothing to complain about. 
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taniwharugby

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="577692" data-time="1462609514">
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But that's the rationale when jumping with eyes only the ball - and that leads to reds
 
Not saying it's the right precedent but it's a reality
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Ngatai didnt jump, he was committed to tackle, Dixon jumped.

bbarcs

Unaffiliated supporter: not even a penalty. All he did was stand there. I'm not gonna blame someone else if I ram my car into theirs and break my neck.

SouthernMan

With a jumping player it is the defenders responsibility to wait until they land safely.

KiwiMurph

Good call as a non red card I thought. 
A few other thoughts 
Naholo looks brilliant for first game back - some good runs, great kick chasing and a turnover also. 
Highlanders are reading the Chiefs attack. Chiefs need to mix it up - too much one dimensional wide passing from Weber. 
Highlanders halves out playing Chiefs.

Stargazer

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="577693" data-time="1462609535">
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they used that reasoning for the red card on Le Roux...the fact he landed on his head.
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Exactly, and they also used it for the Kings' player to only give him yellow (player landed on back, not neck/head).

bbarcs

The most important criteria for being a rugby referee is to be a fucking idiot.

Frank

Dixon jumped, but Ngatai also pushed forward at him in the air and also lifted with his arms- at least in slow-mo that is how it appeared.

hydro11

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Ngatai didnt jump, he was committed to tackle, Dixon jumped.
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That's his point. No one jumped for the Le Roux tackle either. If the one last week was a red, so was that providing the player landed on his head ( i can't remember the exact wording).

Crucial

My view. 
Incorrect call. 
Lowe on Fekitoa last year. Fekitoa jumped into the tackle, Lowe was YC'd. 
After the game Lowe's YC was rescinded as he wasn't at fault. 
This one looked spectacular but was basically the same. You can't blame a tackler when someone jumps into them. If you do then it adds fuel to the fire which says these rulings are unfair. 
What did Ngatai do that was wrong or dangerous?

Billy Tell

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The most important criteria for being a rugby referee is to be a fucking idiot.
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Says Joe Anonymous internet poster...

taniwharugby

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That's his point. No one jumped for the Le Roux tackle either. If the one last week was a red, so was that providing the player landed on his head ( i can't remember the exact wording).
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he wasnt jumping for the ball though, at the time Ngatai commits to him, Dixon is still on the ground, and ball bouncing off his shoulder, he then jumps.

hydro11

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At worst, Pryor should be getting a yellow too, as his was the one that was actually deliberate.
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Nothing about being deliberate in the laws. It's either a fair challenge or not.

Siam

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Christ, if you're gonna jump into a tackle you've got to take responsibility for yourself. That's a dangerous move in of itself.
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Christ if you're going to tackle someone, make sure he's got the fucking ball before flipping him - no?

Tordah

jumping into the tackle is dangerous play and not allowed, if anyone should have been penalised it's Dixon for putting himself into danger and allowing a ref to almost fuck up another game

Crucial

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SouthernMan" data-cid="577698" data-time="1462609670">With a jumping player it is the defenders responsibility to wait until they land safely.</blockquote>
Pretty difficult when the guy actually jumps into you and you don't even know until it is too late.

The Silver Fern

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