All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I
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@delicatessen said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
@booboo said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
Surprised Aumua isn't getting more love.
Jacobsen... Christ ?, First World problems but who do we leave out of the loosies when Ardie and Cane are available?
Akira. The ultimate impact player
I think Akira has pretty much nailed down the 6 slot. (And credit for Foster for getting him there). It's going to be interesting when Sam Cane gets back as I think he'll be a shoe-in at 7 with Ardie and Jacobson fighting for the 8 slot for a few Tests at least.
Cane, like Akira, is a seriously hard bastard and I can see the AB's dominating the breakdown against most teams far more than we've seen in the last few years
All in all, I'm pretty relaxed about the loose forwards. There's an embarrassment of riches at 6/7/8 and Foster seems to have a good grip on selections.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
@bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
Yeah I feel Dalton will be the unlucky one, I'd still take Cane ahead of him. Ardie on the bench. Blackadder out of the squad.
I do get surprised people go on about our trio being too small with Ardie there, then go on about Jacobson or Blackadder - who are both 7 size also.
Who is your starting 6?
Well Luke Whitelock is unavailable as is Squire and Frizzel is injured so I'll probably settle for the temporary stand in, Akira Ioane is doing kind of ok.
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
TJP, BBBR & Scott Barrett for me. The latter's work rate was immense tonight
Just watched a replay and he was into things a lot more than I recall from first viewing. A very good game.
Head to the MOTM thread for great insights. Oh wait.
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BBBR, BB, AA
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
AA
This feels like Weber last week for me. Some great highlights but dig a bit deeper...
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@bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
Yeah I feel Dalton will be the unlucky one, I'd still take Cane ahead of him. Ardie on the bench. Blackadder out of the squad.
I do get surprised people go on about our trio being too small with Ardie there, then go on about Jacobson or Blackadder - who are both 7 size also.
According to allblacks.com stats, Jacobson has 8kg on him and Blackadder has 12kg on him. I think they're both more reasonable 6/8 sizes.
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@junior said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
What was really noticeable today was how anonymous Kremer and Matera were as compared with this fixture last year.
I was thinking the same thing watching the game. They made 40 tackles between them, but most of their forwards made plenty of tackles. However, the only time you really saw Matera was when he did that cynical infringing at the ruck in the 2nd half.
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@bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
@bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
Yeah I feel Dalton will be the unlucky one, I'd still take Cane ahead of him. Ardie on the bench. Blackadder out of the squad.
I do get surprised people go on about our trio being too small with Ardie there, then go on about Jacobson or Blackadder - who are both 7 size also.
Who is your starting 6?
Well Luke Whitelock is unavailable as is Squire and Frizzel is injured so I'll probably settle for the temporary stand in, Akira Ioane is doing kind of ok.
S. Barrett is available though 😉
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@tj said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
@bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
Yeah I feel Dalton will be the unlucky one, I'd still take Cane ahead of him. Ardie on the bench. Blackadder out of the squad.
I do get surprised people go on about our trio being too small with Ardie there, then go on about Jacobson or Blackadder - who are both 7 size also.
According to allblacks.com stats, Jacobson has 8kg on him and Blackadder has 12kg on him. I think they're both more reasonable 6/8 sizes.
Other than COVID vaccination info on Twitter, is there anything more unreliable on the internet than height and weight stats for sportspeople?
Even if they are, I’m not really seeing how that extra 8 and 12 kgs translates to anything more than Ardie on the actual field. Unless Jacobsen and Blackadder were storming it in attack like Lauaki or immovable rocks at the breakdown ala Jerry, Ardie’s whole game outweighs other options right now.
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@bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
AA
This feels like Weber last week for me. Some great highlights but dig a bit deeper...
Maybe just me,but I dont get the Aumua love either, especially when rating top three in a game, yeah prominant on run metres but if that is improved throwing, then we are well and truly farked long term. Neither hooker excelled in core duties and the Anton Oliver days look like they are on a comeback. Does he have a future? It certainly looks like it, but jeez there were some work ons
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Akira-Cane-Jacobson with Ardie off the bench would be fucking dominant. Having Paps waiting in the wings is just an embarrassment of riches.
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@bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
@bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
Yeah I feel Dalton will be the unlucky one, I'd still take Cane ahead of him. Ardie on the bench. Blackadder out of the squad.
I do get surprised people go on about our trio being too small with Ardie there, then go on about Jacobson or Blackadder - who are both 7 size also.
Who is your starting 6?
Well Luke Whitelock is unavailable as is Squire and Frizzel is injured so I'll probably settle for the temporary stand in, Akira Ioane is doing kind of ok.
Only til Vaea Fifita comes back too
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
@tj said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
@bones said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
Yeah I feel Dalton will be the unlucky one, I'd still take Cane ahead of him. Ardie on the bench. Blackadder out of the squad.
I do get surprised people go on about our trio being too small with Ardie there, then go on about Jacobson or Blackadder - who are both 7 size also.
According to allblacks.com stats, Jacobson has 8kg on him and Blackadder has 12kg on him. I think they're both more reasonable 6/8 sizes.
Other than COVID vaccination info on Twitter, is there anything more unreliable on the internet than height and weight stats for sportspeople?
Even if they are, I’m not really seeing how that extra 8 and 12 kgs translates to anything more than Ardie on the actual field. Unless Jacobsen and Blackadder were storming it in attack like Lauaki or immovable rocks at the breakdown ala Jerry, Ardie’s whole game outweighs other options right now.
I was specifically responding to your comment about size from a source that lists them all, I think commenting on size with a source is better than commenting without anything. It depends what you want out of the back row, but my preference would be for Savea to play 7 and then move to the bench when Cane comes back.
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@kirwan I've seen alot worse throwing than what Aumua displayed on Sunday. Apart from the two lineouts lost close to the line he was perfect off about the 10 other throws he had during the game. Infact the All Black's were 18/20 in the lineout by the end of the game.
Botching two close to the line probably doesn't help his case but he's certainly no Ben Funnell, Aled De Malmanche or Anton Oliver.
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@canes4life said in All Blacks MOTM v Argentina I:
@kirwan I've seen alot worse throwing than what Aumua displayed on Sunday. Apart from the two lineouts lost close to the line he was perfect off about the 10 other throws he had during the game. Infact the All Black's were 18/20 in the lineout by the end of the game.
Botching two close to the line probably doesn't help his case but he's certainly no Ben Funnell, Aled De Malmanche or Anton Oliver.
It was more than two and he was only on for 46mins.
