Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz

Chris B.

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Well good to see some "fern" like comments coming through on Stuff at least.
 
Someone mentioned her being easy on the eye.....is it just me or could you land a fleet of harriers on her forehead if she lay on her back.?
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One of the favourites to replace her is Samantha Hayes, so I'm not sure that's a good reason to keep Hilary. HB is certainly more than passable though.

taniwharugby

I guess it depends what you are comparing her with to say she is easy on the eye?
 
I liked this comment:
 
So, is Paul Henry is the Kayne West of journalism?

Chris B.

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<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/kpmg-early-edition/opinion/andrew-dickens-online-attacks-on-mark-weldon-were-classless-rude-and-lacked-any-grace-or-style/'>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/kpmg-early-edition/opinion/andrew-dickens-online-attacks-on-mark-weldon-were-classless-rude-and-lacked-any-grace-or-style/</a>
 
Good analysis IMO
 
NZ media are up so far up their own ass.
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Yeah - that probably accords with what I'm thinking.
 
Thing about Weldon is that he took on a thankless task. If you're leading major restructurings it is bloody hard to take a lot of the people with you - especially if your restructuring involves sacking their friends. Eventually, when things settle into a new normal people might realize you're not such a bad bastard, but the toll on people and productivity is usually high - at least in my experience.
 
I reckon if you're employed to be a hatchetman then you're best to do the job, take the cash and get the hell out - let someone new reap the benefits of your "bad cop" performance.

jegga

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some headlines on NZH... 
Chris Rattue: Kiwis unlikely to pull a Leicester [font='courier new'](really, not even close to a valid comparison)[/font] <a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11633792">Garner apologises after woman bares all</a> 
5 min ago <a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11633969">Cricketer fails to get extra costs in court fight</a> 
6 min ago <a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11463960">Six times live TV went horribly wrong</a> only 6? 
16 min ago <a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11633988">Tennis-ball size diamond may sell for $70m</a> 
16 min ago <a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11633962">Are these the worst mums in the world?</a> is about a movie 
18 min ago <a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11633996">Double Dribble podcast Thu May 5</a> didn't check to see what this was about 
25 min ago <a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11633987">Student creates London tube-style map of NZ</a> 
32 min ago <a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11633983">Chimp victim's body rejects face-transplant</a> damn!</blockquote>
 
Here's the back story to the chimp attack, <a class="bbc_url" href="http://nymag.com/news/features/70830/">http://nymag.com/news/features/70830/</a>

jegga

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Good analysis IMO 
NZ media are up so far up their own ass.</blockquote>
 
Good piece, most people wouldn't know who Weldon was. The fact that a cretin like Anika Moa tweeted about him says a lot about his opponents snd what he was up against.

Crucial

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="577040" data-time="1462409416">Yeah - that probably accords with what I'm thinking. 
Thing about Weldon is that he took on a thankless task. If you're leading major restructurings it is bloody hard to take a lot of the people with you - especially if your restructuring involves sacking their friends. Eventually, when things settle into a new normal people might realize you're not such a bad bastard, but the toll on people and productivity is usually high - at least in my experience. 
I reckon if you're employed to be a hatchetman then you're best to do the job, take the cash and get the hell out - let someone new reap the benefits of your "bad cop" performance.</blockquote>
 
I don't disagree with that but it does make me wonder how he treated people in doing his job when the remaining staff hold a party to celebrate his departure. However you look at it that isn't a sign of a company that has found any kind of good culture. 
I have been in companies where a hatchet man has come in and in one case was a 'victim' but no matter how much others muttered or complained I can't imagine them holding a party at work when the guy departed. 
At my current work we have had a couple of necessary restructures and they were handled openly and with dignity. The bosses were very upfront and caused very little bad blood. Some departees have even come back.

Baron Silas Greenback

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I don't disagree with that but it does make me wonder how he treated people in doing his job when the remaining staff hold a party to celebrate his departure. However you look at it that isn't a sign of a company that has found any kind of good culture. 
I have been in companies where a hatchet man has come in and in one case was a 'victim' but no matter how much others muttered or complained I can't imagine them holding a party at work when the guy departed. 
At my current work we have had a couple of necessary restructures and they were handled openly and with dignity. The bosses were very upfront and caused very little bad blood. Some departees have even come back.
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I don't think anyone is arguing the culture was good! But who is to blame for that? The lazy answer is the boss, but that is simplistic BS. If you get bought in to make change and people with high profiles and even larger egos refuse point blank to change or even negotiate? You need to get rid of them. And if the act of getting rid of the toxic elements makes others annoyed.. is just part of the cost.
 
I think you may be underestimating the elf importance and ego of those employees. Be hard not t be when you are puffed up by the rest of the media.

Crucial

Obviously you know far more about the inner workings of mediaworks than me so I won't bother with my outsiders view.

TeWaio

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some headlines on NZH...
 
Chris Rattue: Kiwis unlikely to pull a Leicester (really, not even close to a valid comparison)
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11633792'>Garner apologises after woman bares all</a>
 
5 min ago
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11633969'>Cricketer fails to get extra costs in court fight</a>
6 min ago
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11463960'>Six times live TV went horribly wrong</a> only 6?
16 min ago
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11633988'>Tennis-ball size diamond may sell for $70m</a>
16 min ago
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11633962'>Are these the worst mums in the world?</a> is about a movie
18 min ago
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11633996'>Double Dribble podcast Thu May 5</a> didn't check to see what this was about
25 min ago
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11633987'>Student creates London tube-style map of NZ</a>
32 min ago
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11633983'>Chimp victim's body rejects face-transplant</a> damn!
 
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That is so cool, I just went and bought one! Thanks NZH! :good1: :good1: :good1:

Nepia

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That is so cool, I just went and bought one! Thanks NZH! :good1: :good1: :good1:
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I don't think you're entering into the spirit of this thread. ;)

taniwharugby

Well balance of probability and all, they gotta get some decent headlines now and again don't they?

SammyC

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Here's the back story to the chimp attack, <a class="bbc_url" href="http://nymag.com/news/features/70830/">http://nymag.com/news/features/70830/</a>
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I quite enjoyed reading that

MN5

<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/79714929/mike-mcroberts-commits-to-stay-with-mediaworks'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/79714929/mike-mcroberts-commits-to-stay-with-mediaworks</a>
 
Wow, all I can say is thank god.....I think we need to create a Givealittle page to help ease his grieving, jegga can you sort that ? cheers.

jegga

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<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/79714929/mike-mcroberts-commits-to-stay-with-mediaworks'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/79714929/mike-mcroberts-commits-to-stay-with-mediaworks</a>
 
Wow, all I can say is thank god.....I think we need to create a Givealittle page to help ease his grieving, jegga can you sort that ? cheers.
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I'm on it, in the mean time enjoy this

Mokey

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<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/79714929/mike-mcroberts-commits-to-stay-with-mediaworks'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/79714929/mike-mcroberts-commits-to-stay-with-mediaworks</a>
 
Wow, all I can say is thank god.....I think we need to create a Givealittle page to help ease his grieving, jegga can you sort that ? cheers.
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The longer this story drags on, the more the TV3 gang come across as a bunch of bitchy prima donna assholes. No wonder their ratings are so shite.

MN5

Leigh Hart is the man ( to everyone except Nepia )

MN5

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The longer this story drags on, the more the TV3 gang come across as a bunch of bitchy prima donna assholes. No wonder their ratings are so shite.
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Reminds me of Phil Gould being in tears on TV....not cos an earthquake had killed thousands....not cos his child had died.....not even cos his cat had died......but the reason Phil was so cut up was because he was seeing his mate Matty Johns being pilloried ( quite deservedly ) by the media for his part in that group sex scandal a few years back.
 
The level of loathesome self importance was sickening.

NTA

Its the entire scope of the League-supporting media like Channel NineRL and The Daily NRLegraph here in Sydney: doesn't matter what it is, League is the victim!
 
Such a bogan mentality.

taniwharugby

<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/79824662/load-of-pva-glue-spills-on-manukau-south-auckland-intersection'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/79824662/load-of-pva-glue-spills-on-manukau-south-auckland-intersection</a>
 
'Stuck' in traffic
Auckland motorists find themselves well and trully jammed after a glue truck spilled its load

jegga

The herald and stuff are both running stories about a possible merger. I guess that makes it official , I guess it also means that unfortunately some people are going to lose theirs jobs if they do merge.

The Silver Fern

Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz