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@rancid-schnitzel said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
lynchmob attitude towards anyone who lies to officials and spreads Covid
small point of order, at this particular point in time it was highlighted by a number of different areas that there was a distinct difference in the media treatment of these girls, and a couple of, shall we say, paler, more affluent people who did the same thing.
The rest of the post is all good though.
And there is zero defence for these little fucks. Zero. This isn't pinching a car from the front of the house, this is entering a home, and maiming people with weapons you bought with you. Play bad games, win bad prizes.
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@mariner4life said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
lynchmob attitude towards anyone who lies to officials and spreads Covid
small point of order, at this particular point in time it was highlighted by a number of different areas that there was a distinct difference in the media treatment of these girls, and a couple of, shall we say, paler, more affluent people who did the same thing.
The rest of the post is all good though.
And there is zero defence for these little fucks. Zero. This isn't pinching a car from the front of the house, this is entering a home, and maiming people with weapons you bought with you. Play bad games, win bad prizes.
Can't agree. The only difference is that they somehow got pictures of them and they looked like a cross between a Kardashian and a dropped pie. That nurse who travelled around was absolutely destroyed. As were others. And just look at the hate directed at the "Karens". I don't believe for a minute that there would have been less abuse if these girls looked like the original inhabitants of Goodna.
On the other matter, there was a big report on ACA last night about youth crime, particularly home invasions. Didn't see much of it but it was depressing and frightening at the same time. The current system is clearly failing and, based on my own experience, that is because (as you said) there are zero farking consequences. Maybe it would have made no difference for Kefu's attackers because there are clearly some deeper, more complex issues with that community. But I don't believe the majority of these ferals would be committing these crimes with such impunity (and on camera) if there were actual consequences.
Getting deeply personal here, but there is an instinct to blame the parents. That's extremely unfair. I literally locked my son in the house. I installed locks on every door and kept the keys on me. He took a padlock and smashed a window to get out. I went to every agency or service I could think of, including my local member. But they all told me there was nothing I could do without his consent. He was 14 at the time. I was imploring Queensland Health for a mental health order and said that it was just a matter of time before I was seriously hurt (he'd smashed his room up and lit his bed on fire). Their reaction: "Well the system is very reactive." And what do you reckon would have happened if I'd laid a hand on him. I'd have been arrested and they would have taken my other son away from him. And didn't he fucking know that.
Sorry about the sidetrack and rambling but the system is completely fucked and I think I've made it clear who I blame for that. I'm all for personal responsibility but anyone who thinks you are able to exercise it yourself is kidding themselves.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
Big fellas doing just fine. Great to see.
This photo absolutely warms my heart. Shit, I bet even Ron Cribb is happy to see this !!!!
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
@mariner4life said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
lynchmob attitude towards anyone who lies to officials and spreads Covid
small point of order, at this particular point in time it was highlighted by a number of different areas that there was a distinct difference in the media treatment of these girls, and a couple of, shall we say, paler, more affluent people who did the same thing.
The rest of the post is all good though.
And there is zero defence for these little fucks. Zero. This isn't pinching a car from the front of the house, this is entering a home, and maiming people with weapons you bought with you. Play bad games, win bad prizes.
Can't agree. The only difference is that they somehow got pictures of them and they looked like a cross between a Kardashian and a dropped pie. That nurse who travelled around was absolutely destroyed. As were others. And just look at the hate directed at the "Karens". I don't believe for a minute that there would have been less abuse if these girls looked like the original inhabitants of Goodna.
On the other matter, there was a big report on ACA last night about youth crime, particularly home invasions. Didn't see much of it but it was depressing and frightening at the same time. The current system is clearly failing and, based on my own experience, that is because (as you said) there are zero farking consequences. Maybe it would have made no difference for Kefu's attackers because there are clearly some deeper, more complex issues with that community. But I don't believe the majority of these ferals would be committing these crimes with such impunity (and on camera) if there were actual consequences.
Getting deeply personal here, but there is an instinct to blame the parents. That's extremely unfair. I literally locked my son in the house. I installed locks on every door and kept the keys on me. He took a padlock and smashed a window to get out. I went to every agency or service I could think of, including my local member. But they all told me there was nothing I could do without his consent. He was 14 at the time. I was imploring Queensland Health for a mental health order and said that it was just a matter of time before I was seriously hurt (he'd smashed his room up and lit his bed on fire). Their reaction: "Well the system is very reactive." And what do you reckon would have happened if I'd laid a hand on him. I'd have been arrested and they would have taken my other son away from him. And didn't he fucking know that.
Sorry about the sidetrack and rambling but the system is completely fucked and I think I've made it clear who I blame for that. I'm all for personal responsibility but anyone who thinks you are able to exercise it yourself is kidding themselves.
You’ve done it way tougher than most on here so it’s really shit you have to deal with what you are. Your friendly online Polish chicks are always here for a gripe/virtual beer though !
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@mariner4life said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
small point of order, at this particular point in time it was highlighted by a number of different areas that there was a distinct difference in the media treatment of these girls, and a couple of, shall we say, paler, more affluent people who did the same thing.
Albedo rating of perps is a factor, but affluence also I reckon.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
Getting deeply personal here, but there is an instinct to blame the parents. That's extremely unfair. I literally locked my son in the house. I installed locks on every door and kept the keys on me. He took a padlock and smashed a window to get out. I went to every agency or service I could think of, including my local member. But they all told me there was nothing I could do without his consent. He was 14 at the time. I was imploring Queensland Health for a mental health order and said that it was just a matter of time before I was seriously hurt (he'd smashed his room up and lit his bed on fire). Their reaction: "Well the system is very reactive." And what do you reckon would have happened if I'd laid a hand on him. I'd have been arrested and they would have taken my other son away from him. And didn't he fucking know that.
Sorry about the sidetrack and rambling but the system is completely fucked and I think I've made it clear who I blame for that. I'm all for personal responsibility but anyone who thinks you are able to exercise it yourself is kidding themselves.
I agree with you. While there are kids out there that have no chance because of their parents, there are kids out there with loving parents/grandparents that are going off the rails. And there is nothing the parents can do and nothing the system can do.
A few examples that have stuck with me. More than a few years ago I was in the station when I looked up to see a cute wee girl aged about 5 walk in wearing her pajamas and holding her teddy bear. She told me "daddy keeps getting beaten up and I am too scared to live at home. " Turns out she was from one of our regular families. Druggy parents, brothers etc. Someone had smashed their way into the house and beaten the crap out of her father in front of her. The girl was handed over to the system and surprise surprise handed straight back to the family. Fast forward 10 years I attend a job where a female had been beaten by her boyfriend. It was the same girl. She was now drug addicted, a young mother, and living in a shit hole of a house with a loser. She had reached out all those years ago...
For a good two or three years we were getting desperate calls from a mother about her glue sniffing addicted daughter. The usual going missing or causing a disturbance type thing. She was always off her face. She was about 12 at the time. She disappeared for a few years and it was not long ago we attended a call about a girl looking like a vagrant in a park. It was the the glue addicted girl. This time she could not stand, could not talk properly and was on something worse than glue. Her skin was covered in those sores druggies get and her stomach looked horrendous. There was a note on our records that about 6 months prior she had been found by NSW police with a fresh wound to her stomach that looked like a back yard cesarean section had been done on her and the whereabouts of the baby was unknown. This girl's parents had tried everything to help her. The girl was let down by the 'system' when she was a young glue addict. Her rights and freedoms were paramount.
Another seemingly increasing problem is young kids with autism. There are some violent ones out there and again there is virtually nothing that can be done to help the parents. They are on their own. There is one 12 year old boy in our area that goes into a fit of rage and becomes violent. He beats his mum during these fits. Mum is single and there is a teenage girl sticking around at home to help mum. They can handle the boy for now, but each day this boy is getting stronger. One day he will be too strong. And one day he will be old enough to be in society on his own, living with a girlfriend, going out getting drunk...
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@crazy-horse fuck all of that. There's a reason I'm not a copper.
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@crazy-horse said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
Getting deeply personal here, but there is an instinct to blame the parents. That's extremely unfair. I literally locked my son in the house. I installed locks on every door and kept the keys on me. He took a padlock and smashed a window to get out. I went to every agency or service I could think of, including my local member. But they all told me there was nothing I could do without his consent. He was 14 at the time. I was imploring Queensland Health for a mental health order and said that it was just a matter of time before I was seriously hurt (he'd smashed his room up and lit his bed on fire). Their reaction: "Well the system is very reactive." And what do you reckon would have happened if I'd laid a hand on him. I'd have been arrested and they would have taken my other son away from him. And didn't he fucking know that.
Sorry about the sidetrack and rambling but the system is completely fucked and I think I've made it clear who I blame for that. I'm all for personal responsibility but anyone who thinks you are able to exercise it yourself is kidding themselves.
I agree with you. While there are kids out there that have no chance because of their parents, there are kids out there with loving parents/grandparents that are going off the rails. And there is nothing the parents can do and nothing the system can do.
A few examples that have stuck with me. More than a few years ago I was in the station when I looked up to see a cute wee girl aged about 5 walk in wearing her pajamas and holding her teddy bear. She told me "daddy keeps getting beaten up and I am too scared to live at home. " Turns out she was from one of our regular families. Druggy parents, brothers etc. Someone had smashed their way into the house and beaten the crap out of her father in front of her. The girl was handed over to the system and surprise surprise handed straight back to the family. Fast forward 10 years I attend a job where a female had been beaten by her boyfriend. It was the same girl. She was now drug addicted, a young mother, and living in a shit hole of a house with a loser. She had reached out all those years ago...
For a good two or three years we were getting desperate calls from a mother about her glue sniffing addicted daughter. The usual going missing or causing a disturbance type thing. She was always off her face. She was about 12 at the time. She disappeared for a few years and it was not long ago we attended a call about a girl looking like a vagrant in a park. It was the the glue addicted girl. This time she could not stand, could not talk properly and was on something worse than glue. Her skin was covered in those sores druggies get and her stomach looked horrendous. There was a note on our records that about 6 months prior she had been found by NSW police with a fresh wound to her stomach that looked like a back yard cesarean section had been done on her and the whereabouts of the baby was unknown. This girl's parents had tried everything to help her. The girl was let down by the 'system' when she was a young glue addict. Her rights and freedoms were paramount.
Another seemingly increasing problem is young kids with autism. There are some violent ones out there and again there is virtually nothing that can be done to help the parents. They are on their own. There is one 12 year old boy in our area that goes into a fit of rage and becomes violent. He beats his mum during these fits. Mum is single and there is a teenage girl sticking around at home to help mum. They can handle the boy for now, but each day this boy is getting stronger. One day he will be too strong. And one day he will be old enough to be in society on his own, living with a girlfriend, going out getting drunk...
Not only that but dare I say it “normal” kids will calm down if they are losing a fight. Not kids with autism or other difficulties. A woman I was seeing had a young boy with these issues, Dad had fucked off and was no where to be seen and I briefly took on the role of helping her out as best I could but that and a few other issues meant she was never a long term option. It’s very sad because she’ll be pushing 60 when this kid is a teenager and at his worst.
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@nta said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
@crazy-horse fuck all of that. There's a reason I'm not a copper.
there is no amount of money in the world...
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@crazy-horse I can't upvote that. It's so depressing, but a good post.
I will say that at least you guys are doing what you can. Been through some rough shit myself and a sense of humour helps. You seem to have that sorted even if I am likely to be accidently shot should I set foot in Queensland.
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@snowy said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
@crazy-horse I can't upvote that. It's so depressing, but a good post.
I will say that at least you guys are doing what you can. Been through some rough shit myself and a sense of humour helps. You seem to have that sorted even if I am likely to be accidently shot should I set foot in Queensland.
From my time working in comms I can confirm old school cops have some seriously twisted wit. I guess it’s a coping mechanism
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@snowy said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
@mn5 said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
I guess it’s a coping mechanism
It is. All high stress jobs.
….yep and don’t get me started on how much more Police should be paid than they are……it’s ridiculous we live in a society where you can get paid more for selling shit than doing what they do.
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@mn5 said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
@crazy-horse said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
Getting deeply personal here, but there is an instinct to blame the parents. That's extremely unfair. I literally locked my son in the house. I installed locks on every door and kept the keys on me. He took a padlock and smashed a window to get out. I went to every agency or service I could think of, including my local member. But they all told me there was nothing I could do without his consent. He was 14 at the time. I was imploring Queensland Health for a mental health order and said that it was just a matter of time before I was seriously hurt (he'd smashed his room up and lit his bed on fire). Their reaction: "Well the system is very reactive." And what do you reckon would have happened if I'd laid a hand on him. I'd have been arrested and they would have taken my other son away from him. And didn't he fucking know that.
Sorry about the sidetrack and rambling but the system is completely fucked and I think I've made it clear who I blame for that. I'm all for personal responsibility but anyone who thinks you are able to exercise it yourself is kidding themselves.
I agree with you. While there are kids out there that have no chance because of their parents, there are kids out there with loving parents/grandparents that are going off the rails. And there is nothing the parents can do and nothing the system can do.
A few examples that have stuck with me. More than a few years ago I was in the station when I looked up to see a cute wee girl aged about 5 walk in wearing her pajamas and holding her teddy bear. She told me "daddy keeps getting beaten up and I am too scared to live at home. " Turns out she was from one of our regular families. Druggy parents, brothers etc. Someone had smashed their way into the house and beaten the crap out of her father in front of her. The girl was handed over to the system and surprise surprise handed straight back to the family. Fast forward 10 years I attend a job where a female had been beaten by her boyfriend. It was the same girl. She was now drug addicted, a young mother, and living in a shit hole of a house with a loser. She had reached out all those years ago...
For a good two or three years we were getting desperate calls from a mother about her glue sniffing addicted daughter. The usual going missing or causing a disturbance type thing. She was always off her face. She was about 12 at the time. She disappeared for a few years and it was not long ago we attended a call about a girl looking like a vagrant in a park. It was the the glue addicted girl. This time she could not stand, could not talk properly and was on something worse than glue. Her skin was covered in those sores druggies get and her stomach looked horrendous. There was a note on our records that about 6 months prior she had been found by NSW police with a fresh wound to her stomach that looked like a back yard cesarean section had been done on her and the whereabouts of the baby was unknown. This girl's parents had tried everything to help her. The girl was let down by the 'system' when she was a young glue addict. Her rights and freedoms were paramount.
Another seemingly increasing problem is young kids with autism. There are some violent ones out there and again there is virtually nothing that can be done to help the parents. They are on their own. There is one 12 year old boy in our area that goes into a fit of rage and becomes violent. He beats his mum during these fits. Mum is single and there is a teenage girl sticking around at home to help mum. They can handle the boy for now, but each day this boy is getting stronger. One day he will be too strong. And one day he will be old enough to be in society on his own, living with a girlfriend, going out getting drunk...
Not only that but dare I say it “normal” kids will calm down if they are losing a fight. Not kids with autism or other difficulties. A woman I was seeing had a young boy with these issues, Dad had fucked off and was no where to be seen and I briefly took on the role of helping her out as best I could but that and a few other issues meant she was never a long term option. It’s very sad because she’ll be pushing 60 when this kid is a teenager and at his worst.
I was there when the same kid was given a 'shot' by QAS to calm him down. It took forever for the kid to calm. QAS couldn't believe it.
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@mn5 said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
@snowy said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
@crazy-horse I can't upvote that. It's so depressing, but a good post.
I will say that at least you guys are doing what you can. Been through some rough shit myself and a sense of humour helps. You seem to have that sorted even if I am likely to be accidently shot should I set foot in Queensland.
From my time working in comms I can confirm old school cops have some seriously twisted wit. I guess it’s a coping mechanism
The public would be horrified if they knew what was joked about.
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@crazy-horse said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
@mn5 said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
@snowy said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
@crazy-horse I can't upvote that. It's so depressing, but a good post.
I will say that at least you guys are doing what you can. Been through some rough shit myself and a sense of humour helps. You seem to have that sorted even if I am likely to be accidently shot should I set foot in Queensland.
From my time working in comms I can confirm old school cops have some seriously twisted wit. I guess it’s a coping mechanism
The public would be horrified if they knew what was joked about.
One that stuck with me was one of them discussing a suicide by train. Needless to say there wasn’t much left of the young fella that did it but the Sergeant mentioned he was “chuffed to bits”.
A darkly hilarious and fucked up comment in equal measure.
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@Crazy-Horse Yeah I know.
Re sense of humour and stressful situations - I did have a few where the shit had hit the fan from mechanical failures to raving loonies in the back of the plane. My go to comment was straight out of Airplane / Flying high. "Looks like I chose the wrong week to stop sniffing glue" out of various others. The other crew probably thought I was nuts but mostly seemed to take an "oh well we just got to fix this shit now and the boss isn't panicking" - even if I was a bit at times.
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@mn5 said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
@crazy-horse said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
@mn5 said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
@snowy said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
@crazy-horse I can't upvote that. It's so depressing, but a good post.
I will say that at least you guys are doing what you can. Been through some rough shit myself and a sense of humour helps. You seem to have that sorted even if I am likely to be accidently shot should I set foot in Queensland.
From my time working in comms I can confirm old school cops have some seriously twisted wit. I guess it’s a coping mechanism
The public would be horrified if they knew what was joked about.
One that stuck with me was one of them discussing a suicide by train. Needless to say there wasn’t much left of the young fella that did it but the Sergeant mentioned he was “chuffed to bits”.
A darkly hilarious and fucked up comment in equal measure.
A similar one springs to mind. We had just turned up at a house to find a female smouldering in the back yard after setting herself on fire. Next crew rocks up and a question is asked "So, is she hot?"
Police have to be careful now they all have Body Worn Cameras.
Hell must be full of dead police.
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@crazy-horse said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
A similar one springs to mind. We had just turned up at a house to find a female smouldering in the back yard after setting herself on fire. Next crew rocks up and a question is asked "So, is she hot?
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@crazy-horse said in Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital:
Hell must be full of dead police.
We're all welcome I think. Doctors, nurses (worst sick jokes ever).
Dentists for being sadists.
Lawyers and accountants make the grade but not for sense of humour.
Quite a party.
Toutai Kefu attacked, in hospital