Springboks v British & Irish Lions II
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@junior said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@rebound said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@mikethesnow I take Gatland will dust off his playbook after the 1st test against the ABs in 2017
SBW red card incoming for the 3rd test then
A French ref. What could go wrong?
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@akan004 said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@victor-meldrew Yeah, Lood made a big difference.
He was owesome.
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@majorrage said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@bones said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
Be interesting to see what citings come out of this. Itoje? Kolbe?
What did Itoje do?
Knelt on de Allende's throat.
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wow, did not see that second half comign from the SA team. Forwards really stepped up; driving a maul 30 m is bloody impressive.
Been an absolutely arm wrestle of a series. Last week the rub of teh green went teh way of the Lions, and they squeaked home. This week, it went the other way - and the dominance just built. Very interesting; maybe coming in underdone is smart for the Bokke.
So, after teh biggest game between RWC today, we get treated to another one next weekend. Can't wait, will be great fun.
Kolbe was so stupid. Why the hell do people run into that space- they know it's forbidden. That said, probably a yellow.
Faf was lucky that tackle didn't get looked at, and that' he's short. If Eben does that, he's walking off the park I reckon.
Overall, a really fun tight tussle. I've found it engrossing. Thought BOK had one of his better games. That could have really kicked off, and he made clear decisions and communicated tehm well. Someone said 'he reffed the way World Rugby would want him to', adn I reckon they nailed it. Plenty of whistle, but hard to argue with msot of the decisions.
Roll on next week!
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@nzzp said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
wow, did not see that second half comign from the SA team. Forwards really stepped up; driving a maul 30 m is bloody impressive.
Been an absolutely arm wrestle of a series. Last week the rub of teh green went teh way of the Lions, and they squeaked home. This week, it went the other way - and the dominance just built. Very interesting; maybe coming in underdone is smart for the Bokke.
So, after teh biggest game between RWC today, we get treated to another one next weekend. Can't wait, will be great fun.
Kolbe was so stupid. Why the hell do people run into that space- they know it's forbidden. That said, probably a yellow.
Faf was lucky that tackle didn't get looked at, and that' he's short. If Eben does that, he's walking off the park I reckon.
Overall, a really fun tight tussle. I've found it engrossing. Thought BOK had one of his better games. That could have really kicked off, and he made clear decisions and communicated tehm well. Someone said 'he reffed the way World Rugby would want him to', adn I reckon they nailed it. Plenty of whistle, but hard to argue with msot of the decisions.
Roll on next week!
Ben can put his whistle away
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@stag said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
Another Gatland coached team playing Warren Ball, most uninspiring coach in the game.
I'm no particular fan of Warren, but he's a bloody good coach. That 17 Lions series were very very well coached, very cohesive, and played some good attackign rugby. I reckon it's a beatup
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Rightio, so a few thoughts.
Firstly, it was a match of two halves. Neither half will please the Lions fans.
Half one was every single thing that is wrong with modern rugby. It took 65 minutes, there was pretty much so no action, it was an absolute drudge fest. Fair play to the Lions for at least trying something here 'n there. Boks did nothing. It was 65 minutes of boof bash big guys into each other with a smattering of technical penalties in place. Utter utter dog shit. My children watched 4 matches of woman's sevens in the morning and I couldn't drag them away. They both lasted less than 3 minutes of the the biggest match of the last couple of years.
Lots of criticism of Ben O'Keefe and most of it is deserved, although I'm not sure it's his way. Yes, he could have kept things moving a bit more, yes he could have kicked off the stream, the literal fucking stream, of trainers running up and down and then on the second there was a break in play. He could have followed up on his earlier threats, he could have carded more etc etc. But what the fuck is he supposed to do? World Rugby is his boss, and I think he ref'd it almost exactly the way they want the game to be ref'd. The shit ness of the first 40 belongs with the players / coaches, not the refs. Pretty much so no skilll on offer.
Cards. I've watched little rugby the last 18 months, but I cannot for the life of me why Kolbe should have been a red. Is the law now that you MIUST jump to catch it? Or if you jump, then you have ALL the rights? Thats completely absurd. Kolbe had his eyes on the ball the entire time, just because Conor jumped two feet in the air, why should Kolbe then be SENT OFF? Ridiculous.
Right, the second half. Much much better all around. SA were on top and used their strength advantage to great effect. A couple of very well taken tries and a real dominance. I'm sure Itoje's line out steal though will ensure that UK writers still give him MOTM and use words like colossus to describe him. No doubt, the Bok's brain trust spent the week watching him & Lawes and they had their number. Neither achieved anything in this match, other than looking like boys against the men of SA. Very reminiscent of the 2nd half of the 2019 WC Final. This Bok team is really something when they play their game. IT's just a shame it takes 40 minutes of boredom before it comes to the party. Although I guess if you are a supporter, you are probably ok with it ....
Nigel Owens. Unequivocally the best ref of the last 20 years. But he doesn't belong in a commentary box. He was so biased, and quite often, just so wrong. Did he ever make a call in SA favour? Even once? It was just terrible. A real shame. It's a shame Warburton is such a boring sounding guy (very monotone, not much x-factor) as everything he says is astute, smart and makes a lot of sense. Hopefully he'll grow into the role. Comes across as one of the game's great brains.
So in summary, don't bother catching a replay. Or if you must, start at half time. Next week is going to be interesting. Personally I think the Boys dealt a huge mental blow and the Lions won't get within 10 points.
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Watched both games on delay very early on the Sunday morning when there wasn’t much else to do anyway.
But bloody hell , it’s hardly been riveting stuff .
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@kiwiinmelb said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
Watched both games on delay very early on the Sunday morning when there wasn’t much else to do anyway.
But bloody hell , it’s hardly been riveting stuff .
Getting literal rivets driven into your body would be more entertaining.
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@majorrage said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
yes he could have kicked off the stream, the literal fucking stream, of trainers running up and down and then on the second there was a break in play.
Fucking hell. All of this. Sideline officials should have been giving team managers an absolute bollocking.
Fines for everyone.
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@kiwiinmelb @nta I get that perspective, but disagree. It's not flair filled, as the offense and defense are so fast to teh breakdown and supporting; technique is top tier. It is a massive tussle, decided by fine margins and occasional brain farts. I've really enjoyed it, love the intensity and the passion. But it's not one to draw in new viewers, that's for sure
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@nta said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@majorrage said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
yes he could have kicked off the stream, the literal fucking stream, of trainers running up and down and then on the second there was a break in play.
Fucking hell. All of this. Sideline officials should have been giving team managers an absolute bollocking.
Fines for everyone.
If I were the benevolent dictator at world rugby, I'd ban support staff from the field unless the ref calls them on.
Also, would drop to 4 replacements off the bench, change body shapes and make players play the full 80. Would be so much a better game I reckon
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@nzzp I'm all for intensity and passion. A bit of skill beyond "roost the ball" would be nice. Umbrella defences can be unlocked with the right set piece moves but neither side fired a shot.
EDIT: I guess what I'm saying is i appreciate the art of the bomb and the kick chase and the aerial stuff. But not when it makes up 98% of the game.
