Too many events at the Olympics?
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@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
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Yeah you’ve mentioned the Phelps thing before and it doesn’t help your argument. Another ridiculously stupid statement.
As I said last year: Phelps has won a single Olympic gold medal where he alone was the fastest over a distance: 200m freestyle. Paavo Nurmi and Carl Lewis are better Olympians.
If I recall correctly you also said that Bradbury’s achievement was greater than anything Phelps ever did. That’s easily the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen on TSF, although the argument that butterfly is equivalent to jogging comes close.
You didn't lose your lollies as much as I expected to that bait. Which surprised me. Butterfly is slower than freestyle over the same distance. So is jogging, Any other analogies I can assist you with?
This has to be a windup. You cant be that stupid.
Great rebuttal.
We're done here.Ok I’ll bite. Bear crawls, hopping on one leg and skipping are slower than running. Ergo they must be jogging right? What awesome logic.
You should probably stop posting if that's your grasp of the topic.
To make this easier for you: Jogging is slower than sprinting. So too is walking. That doesn't mean walking and jogging are the same thing.
That’s exactly what I’m saying. Now apply that to swimming. It’s really not so hard. You can do it.
I’ll make it even easier for you. Butterfly is slower than freestyle. Why? Because it’s a completely different farking stroke. Not because it’s just a slower freestyle. Comparing it to jogging is absolutely absurd.
You're either deliberately missing the point or really fucking stupid.
Delightful.
And accurate.
See above. Seriously man. How hard is it to understand? Butterfly and freestyle are not the equivalent to running and jogging. If you are still arguing that then you need your head examined.
Once again rancid demonstrates his complete ignorance of analogy and ignores the point.
Once again you lead with your face and instead of getting out while you can you double down on the stupid. Again a discussion with Antipodean has taken a turn for the surreal.
Everyone else has the cognitive ability to understand that the analogy for running events was to demonstrate that there's no abundance of medals for doing the same distance slower.
And anyone with a brain would realise that it’s a terrible analogy to compare different swimming strokes to jogging and running. That’s my issue. Seriously, how hard is that for you to understand?
I understand perfectly that you're busy flailing away at your own straw man.
What straw man? It’s really simple. Jogging is a terrible analogy. Yes butterfly is slower than freestyle but it is not the same as comparing jogging with running.
It doesn't have to be the fucking same. No one but you is arguing butterfly is a technically difficult stroke and energy sapping. It's uncontested. That's your straw man. The point is same distance slower, hence why it was mentioned jogging the same distance instead of sprinting. Analogies don't have to match in every aspect, just the commonality.
What are you on about? Give up Black Knight. You’re absolutely beyond ridiculous now. I made myself very clear what I meant from the get go. There’s no strawman ffs. Get help.
A straw man is a form of argument and an informal fallacy of having the impression of refuting an argument, whereas the proper idea of the argument under discussion was not addressed or properly refuted. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".
Since I need to explain this:
- The proper idea was medals for doing the same distance slower.
- You didn't adddress this, instead argued that comparing "jogging" with "butterfly" was stupid.
It’s obvious to everyone but one poster.
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@kirwan said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
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Yeah you’ve mentioned the Phelps thing before and it doesn’t help your argument. Another ridiculously stupid statement.
As I said last year: Phelps has won a single Olympic gold medal where he alone was the fastest over a distance: 200m freestyle. Paavo Nurmi and Carl Lewis are better Olympians.
If I recall correctly you also said that Bradbury’s achievement was greater than anything Phelps ever did. That’s easily the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen on TSF, although the argument that butterfly is equivalent to jogging comes close.
You didn't lose your lollies as much as I expected to that bait. Which surprised me. Butterfly is slower than freestyle over the same distance. So is jogging, Any other analogies I can assist you with?
This has to be a windup. You cant be that stupid.
Great rebuttal.
We're done here.Ok I’ll bite. Bear crawls, hopping on one leg and skipping are slower than running. Ergo they must be jogging right? What awesome logic.
You should probably stop posting if that's your grasp of the topic.
To make this easier for you: Jogging is slower than sprinting. So too is walking. That doesn't mean walking and jogging are the same thing.
That’s exactly what I’m saying. Now apply that to swimming. It’s really not so hard. You can do it.
I’ll make it even easier for you. Butterfly is slower than freestyle. Why? Because it’s a completely different farking stroke. Not because it’s just a slower freestyle. Comparing it to jogging is absolutely absurd.
You're either deliberately missing the point or really fucking stupid.
Delightful.
And accurate.
See above. Seriously man. How hard is it to understand? Butterfly and freestyle are not the equivalent to running and jogging. If you are still arguing that then you need your head examined.
Once again rancid demonstrates his complete ignorance of analogy and ignores the point.
Once again you lead with your face and instead of getting out while you can you double down on the stupid. Again a discussion with Antipodean has taken a turn for the surreal.
Everyone else has the cognitive ability to understand that the analogy for running events was to demonstrate that there's no abundance of medals for doing the same distance slower.
And anyone with a brain would realise that it’s a terrible analogy to compare different swimming strokes to jogging and running. That’s my issue. Seriously, how hard is that for you to understand?
I understand perfectly that you're busy flailing away at your own straw man.
What straw man? It’s really simple. Jogging is a terrible analogy. Yes butterfly is slower than freestyle but it is not the same as comparing jogging with running.
It doesn't have to be the fucking same. No one but you is arguing butterfly is a technically difficult stroke and energy sapping. It's uncontested. That's your straw man. The point is same distance slower, hence why it was mentioned jogging the same distance instead of sprinting. Analogies don't have to match in every aspect, just the commonality.
What are you on about? Give up Black Knight. You’re absolutely beyond ridiculous now. I made myself very clear what I meant from the get go. There’s no strawman ffs. Get help.
A straw man is a form of argument and an informal fallacy of having the impression of refuting an argument, whereas the proper idea of the argument under discussion was not addressed or properly refuted. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".
Since I need to explain this:
- The proper idea was medals for doing the same distance slower.
- You didn't adddress this, instead argued that comparing "jogging" with "butterfly" was stupid.
It’s obvious to everyone but one poster.
Moved on, said as much, but feel free to stir up shit hours later.
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@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Red means get rid of it. Yellow means cull some events, namely anything synchronised or where medals exist for doing the same distance slower...
Note: Events kept doesn't mean I like them.
Not trying to shit stir. What is your policy on weight classes? Should there be the different divisions for the combat sports and weightlifting?
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Red means get rid of it. Yellow means cull some events, namely anything synchronised or where medals exist for doing the same distance slower...
Note: Events kept doesn't mean I like them.
Not trying to shit stir. What is your policy on weight classes? Should there be the different divisions for the combat sports and weightlifting?
I can be swayed either way if I'm honest. Otherwise for a lot of events (namely fighting and weightlifting) if you're not huge you can't attend. In much the same way that we have a female class and special Olympics.
On the flip side, I don't see why you should get a chance just because you're a jockey. Pick another sport type of situation.
In much the same way I'm becoming ambivalent about doping. In accepting the reality part of me wants to see people run 100m in seven seconds, or jump 10m in long jump. The Super Mutant Games.
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@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
In much the same way I'm becoming ambivalent about doping. In accepting the reality part of me wants to see people run 100m in seven seconds, or jump 10m in long jump. The Super Mutant Games.
I'm all for this. They want to shorten their lives? Go for it. I'll sit my fat arse and watch.
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@nta said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
In much the same way I'm becoming ambivalent about doping. In accepting the reality part of me wants to see people run 100m in seven seconds, or jump 10m in long jump. The Super Mutant Games.
I'm all for this. They want to shorten their lives? Go for it. I'll sit my fat arse and watch.
Yeah, I've said that before too. Make it a separate tournament, but let's see what the body can do with some science. Who wouldn't watch that?
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The Olympics should be a week and save everyone a loooot of money
Fuck you Rancid, the swimming strokes are stupid
Fuck the hurdles and the triple jump and the decathlon and the walk
Fuck your judged rubbish
Fuck your cool sports for eyesAre you the fasted at the world in getting point A to point B? Medal
Are the best at jumping over something? MedalCheaper leaner better.
That's my motto
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@mariner4life said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
The Olympics should be a week and save everyone a loooot of money
Fuck you Rancid, the swimming strokes are stupid
Fuck the hurdles and the triple jump and the decathlon and the walk
Fuck your judged rubbish
Fuck your cool sports for eyesAre you the fasted at the world in getting point A to point B? Medal
Are the best at jumping over something? MedalCheaper leaner better.
That's my motto
A good perspective given you're going to be paying to host eight million events in just over a decade.
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@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Red means get rid of it. Yellow means cull some events, namely anything synchronised or where medals exist for doing the same distance slower...
Note: Events kept doesn't mean I like them.
Not trying to shit stir. What is your policy on weight classes? Should there be the different divisions for the combat sports and weightlifting?
I can be swayed either way if I'm honest. Otherwise for a lot of events (namely fighting and weightlifting) if you're not huge you can't attend. In much the same way that we have a female class and special Olympics.
On the flip side, I don't see why you should get a chance just because you're a jockey. Pick another sport type of situation.
In much the same way I'm becoming ambivalent about doping. In accepting the reality part of me wants to see people run 100m in seven seconds, or jump 10m in long jump. The Super Mutant Games.
I guess there are genuine safety concerns in the combat sports. The throwing sports don’t have weight classes so I guess there’s an argument not to have them for lifting events. Ultimately in most sports you just have to accept your genetic limitations. There’s no basketball class for short white dudes.
There are a stupid number of sports but that’s not a huge issue. Just enjoy the ones you like and ignore the ones you hate. Unless of course you’re @mariner4life and you choose to live in a tropic swamp with dialup internet. Then you deservedly eat a bag of dicks.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
There’s no basketball class for short white dudes.
I thought that was 3x3?
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@kiwimurph said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
There's a mixed relay in the athletics too. 4 x 400.
Stupid. A woke participation event from the same IOC that can't decide women shouldn't compete against men.
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@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
There’s no basketball class for short white dudes.
I thought that was 3x3?
No idea. I chose to ignore it. @mariner4life can’t because he only has Channel 7 jungle access.
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Poland just won the 4x400m. Poland.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
There’s no basketball class for short white dudes.
I thought that was 3x3?
No idea. I chose to ignore it. @mariner4life can’t because he only has Channel 7 jungle access.
While I was waiting for it to buffer 3 more meaningless swimming medals were given out
That 4x400 mixed run was fucking dumb
The Olympics is a bloated corporate shit show
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@mariner4life said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
There’s no basketball class for short white dudes.
I thought that was 3x3?
No idea. I chose to ignore it. @mariner4life can’t because he only has Channel 7 jungle access.
While I was waiting for it to buffer 3 more meaningless swimming medals were given out
That 4x400 mixed run was fucking dumb
The Olympics is a bloated corporate shit show
If only there was an app you could use to just watch your favourite sports and ignore the others.
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Actually one sport that shouldn’t be there is men’s soccer. It’s the Olympics not a youth tournament. If the best players can’t be there then don’t have it.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Actually one sport that shouldn’t be there is men’s soccer. It’s the Olympics not a youth tournament. If the best players can’t be there then don’t have it.
There's a good argument that professionals shouldn't attend. If your sport has a professional league, bad luck.
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@antipodean said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Too many events at the Olympics?:
Actually one sport that shouldn’t be there is men’s soccer. It’s the Olympics not a youth tournament. If the best players can’t be there then don’t have it.
There's a good argument that professionals shouldn't attend. If your sport has a professional league, bad luck.
Why is that a good argument? Isn't the Olympics supposed to be the best of the best? Why would forming a professional league to help athletes live, improve, survive, in between Olympics rule those athletes out?
