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    @nzzp said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @akan004 ah bollocks - yeah< i thought a card would be the right call. It's like head high tackles though, the framework just gets ignored.

    Actually, I didn't really mention it, but I thought that was a bad call, in the context of a TMO that went back for a 'head high' that was amrginal earlier in the game.

    There was a massive hit in the first half from a springbok that I thought they might have reviewed- I was going to rewind but got distracted but it looked like a shoulder no arms type thing

    And also the penalty for the late hit on de Klerk in first half was a bit much

    Expecting the Boks to come back way stronger in game two and hopefully we will see their back line running it hard a bit more

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    @nevorian said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @nzzp said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:
    And also the penalty for the late hit on de Klerk in first half was a bit much

    Can't agree with that, it was a cynical cheap shot, well deserving of a penalty. Wasn't dangerous or anything, but giving a penalty just says cut out that nonsense. Let it go and the ref would have more of the same to deal with later.

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    @gibbonrib it was no arms as well.

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    @bovidae said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    Georgia was an official test wasn't it?

    Yes, just saw someone post 1 win streak is the shortest of any reigning world champ

    Didn’t enjoy that overly…really felt like neither had anything up their sleeve, no moves or anything so if they hit it up and didn’t break the line they box kick

    Both game play was get within kicking range and then hope for a penalty

    Woke this morning to a lot of shit talk about how bad South Africa were but thought the score was about right tightness wise

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    @kiwiwomble said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @bovidae said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    Georgia was an official test wasn't it?

    Yes, just saw someone post 1 win streak is the shortest of any reigning world champ

    Didn’t enjoy that overly…really felt like neither had anything up their sleeve, no moves or anything so if they hit it up and didn’t break the line they box kick

    Both game play was get within kicking range and then hope for a penalty

    Woke this morning to a lot of shit talk about how bad South Africa were but thought the score was about right tightness wise

    Was wondering how Englands streak was given that they lost to NZ here in 04 but then I remembered they woulda played an entire six nations cos the world was a bit more normal then.

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    Finally watching the game, first half had been dire. Intense but little skills

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    @nzzp No, Lions don't count for rankings.

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    @derpus said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @nzzp No, Lions don't count for rankings.

    so ... there's a realistic scenario where the World No 1 loses 3-0, and hasn't played a competitive match for rankings in 2 years.

    Yikes.

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    @gibbonrib said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @nevorian said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @nzzp said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:
    And also the penalty for the late hit on de Klerk in first half was a bit much

    Can't agree with that, it was a cynical cheap shot, well deserving of a penalty. Wasn't dangerous or anything, but giving a penalty just says cut out that nonsense. Let it go and the ref would have more of the same to deal with later.

    Agreed - Curry was well out of line there.

    @nevorian said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    There was a massive hit in the first half from a springbok that I thought they might have reviewed- I was going to rewind but got distracted but it looked like a shoulder no arms type thing

    It was OK - just hit him off-balance with impact and was wrapping with at least one arm, even if the other one was down a little.

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    @arhs said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    Thought only Daly and Curry under performed for Lions.

    Daly was nonexistent. I also thought Cowan-Dickie was a bit poo and was surprised George didn't start.

    But the Boks lost it with a poor impact from the entire bench. I did not expect that.

    Yeah that was weird - you look at that bench and think most of them (particularly forwards) are genuine starting contenders, but they just didn't show up. Particularly the front row.

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    Almost finished, there boks just turned to shit. So their physicality went down, front row were awful, and their skills didn't improve. Neither did the lions, but their fitness saw them through.

    Edit: some of the kicks in play was pretty good, I must admit, ABs could learn there. Pity there was so much of it

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    The big improvement in British test sides in the past ten to twelve years has been in their fitness levels. They used to be frequently run off their feet at the end, but now finish games stronger than anyone else. The increased number of delays in a game probably helps them too.

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    @sparky said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    The big improvement in British test sides in the past ten to twelve years has been in their fitness levels. They used to be frequently run off their feet at the end, but now finish games stronger than anyone else. The increased number of delays in a game probably helps them too.

    Very much, esp with an under cooked opponent here. But yeah, the game was so slow

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    @kiwimurph said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @gibbonrib it was no arms as well.

    This

    Curry should have sat for 10
    Cheap, late, dirty
    I’d sit him down next match

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    @mikethesnow said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @kiwimurph said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @gibbonrib it was no arms as well.

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    Curry should have sat for 10
    Cheap, late, dirty
    I’d sit him down next match

    Wasn't impressed with Curry at all in the first half (although I wasn't impressed by anyone apart from Itoje). Gave away 3(?) penalties, and didn't offer much. Gutted that Tipuric wasn't available.

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    @gibbonrib said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @mikethesnow said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @kiwimurph said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @gibbonrib it was no arms as well.

    This

    Curry should have sat for 10
    Cheap, late, dirty
    I’d sit him down next match

    Wasn't impressed with Curry at all in the first half (although I wasn't impressed by anyone apart from Itoje). Gave away 3(?) penalties, and didn't offer much. Gutted that Tipuric wasn't available.

    I think it was only 2 penalties.

    But the breakdown work overall by BIL in the first half was very hit and miss. The Boks had their way on both sides of the ball.

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    @act-crusader said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @gibbonrib said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @mikethesnow said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @kiwimurph said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    @gibbonrib it was no arms as well.

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    Curry should have sat for 10
    Cheap, late, dirty
    I’d sit him down next match

    Wasn't impressed with Curry at all in the first half (although I wasn't impressed by anyone apart from Itoje). Gave away 3(?) penalties, and didn't offer much. Gutted that Tipuric wasn't available.

    I think it was only 2 penalties.

    But the breakdown work overall by BIL in the first half was very hit and miss. The Boks had their way on both sides of the ball.

    Agreed. I thought Price looked very poor in the first half, but in reflection that was largely because he wasn't getting any decent ball.

    Lawes' second half means he should get another go. Wasn't convinced by Conan, would much rather see Faletau in. Curry was so-so, but H. Watson didn't do anything. Don't think there are any other 7 options in the squad, so I guess stick with Curry.

    AWJ and Itoje should go again.

    Front row, Sutherland wasn't great so I'd go Jones (or Mako if he's not fit). LCD would be a better bench option, with either Owens or George to start. Furlong earned another run-on, although I thought Sinkler was also decent when he came on.

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    Watched at pub, and banter made commentators hard to hear. But stat flashed up of penalty count of 8 -1 in second half. Without a rewatch, that seems unlikely to have been a fair reflection.
    17 - 10 at 50, and I had a feeling missed conversion could be important, which it was.
    A bit like a boxing bout in the old days where ref’s call was the decider.
    Nothing in it, and both sides will be better next week. Selection will be very interesting!

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    Not joking- bored shitless watching that. If it wasn't a Lions Test I'd have stopped watching.

    Also, how does Nic Berry get a Lions Test ffs?

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    @antipodean said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions 1:

    Not joking- bored shitless watching that. If it wasn't a Lions Test I'd have stopped watching.

    the physicality didn't do it for you?

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