Euros
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Not sure on Grealish yet. He needs to play for a club in Europe and learn to move the ball on more. His default is to get the ball and move with it but he then gets crowded out.
Jack Grealish captains a club with the best spirit of any club side on earth where he is idolised and which he supported as a kid. He created more chances than any England player in this tournament apart from Sterling. Villa's goalkeeper just won the Copa America. Not sure why he should move.
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Not sure on Grealish yet. He needs to play for a club in Europe and learn to move the ball on more. His default is to get the ball and move with it but he then gets crowded out.
Jack Grealish captains a club with the best spirit of any club side on earth where he is idolised and which he supported as a kid. He created more chances than any England player in this tournament apart from Sterling. Villa's goalkeeper just won the Copa America. Not sure why he should move.
I'm not saying he should move, just that he needs to play at the highest level at a better team where he isn't the main star. England didn't create many chances and Grealish only came on as a sub when the games were more open.
I actually think he is a great player but England can't build a side around him right now.
I also think Rashford should move or else he needs a coach who will get the best out of his talents.
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@rancid-schnitzel to your point Harry Maguire absolutely smashed his penalty shot.
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@kiwimurph said in Euros:
@rancid-schnitzel to your point Harry Maguire absolutely smashed his penalty shot.
Bonucci's penalty was good too for a defender.
If you take a penalty the best options are smashing the ball into the top corner or passing the ball along the floor into the side netting. Anything 1 m or so off the ground is easier for the GK to get a hand to. Even Jorginho missed.
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@kiwimurph said in Euros:
@rancid-schnitzel to your point Harry Maguire absolutely smashed his penalty shot.
Bonucci's penalty was good too for a defender.
If you take a penalty the best options are smashing the ball into the top corner or passing the ball along the floor into the side netting. Anything 1 m or so off the ground is easier for the GK to get a hand to. Even Jorginho missed.
Rashford tried to pass it into the corner. His hesitation move had the keeper beaten but he just missed the target
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@mikethesnow said in Euros:
Wow, talk about putting yourself on a non existent pedestal.
Cardiff and Swansea fans are very famous for being such lovely people.
Dickheads everywhere, nobody is immune.
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@majorrage said in Euros:
@mikethesnow said in Euros:
Wow, talk about putting yourself on a non existent pedestal.
Cardiff and Swansea fans are very famous for being such lovely people.
Dickheads everywhere, nobody is immune.
Very true, but at national level we’ve been good boys
Especially in other people’s houses
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Speaking of pedestals, it must be nice to have massive public support after failing so spectacularly on the second biggest stage - mainly looking at Southgate here but the players too. Imagine if the fans had been well-behaved and the racist had kept their thoughts to themselves - knives would well and truly be out.
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Speaking of pedestals, it must be nice to have massive public support after failing so spectacularly on the second biggest stage - mainly looking at Southgate here but the players too. Imagine if the fans had been well-behaved and the racist had kept their thoughts to themselves - knives would well and truly be out.
Not sure they failed spectacularly. They all but won the tournament and lost narrowly to a very strong Italian outfit. They certainly came nearer to winning a big championship than a England football has done in more than 50 years.
The England squad is young and will always get better. Phil Foden and Jaden Sancho in particularly have the talent to become world-class players. Stones and Maguire will last another six years. They were missing the injured Liverpool duo of Joe Gomez and Trent Alexander-Arnold. I think they can approach Qatar 2022 and Germany 2024 with a lot of confidence.
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@sparky
Wrong choice of words, failing so dramatically?It was a choke anyway, even if they weren't the better side, they choked. I actually think they had a very good side and will be one of the favourites for the world cup. Need a different manager though in my opinion, but now he is seemingly in the clear.
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@mofitzy_ I think it was a big mistake for Southgate to choose his kickers based purely on their performance in training Vs experience in the real world. Penalty shoot outs mostly a mental thing, those 2 young guys had never done it before art a high level.
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@machpants said in Euros:
@mofitzy_ I think it was a big mistake for Southgate to choose his kickers based purely on their performance in training Vs experience in the real world. Penalty shoot outs mostly a mental thing, those 2 young guys had never done it before art a high level.
That and Kane massively underperforming the reasons England lost
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@mikethesnow said in Euros:
@machpants said in Euros:
@mofitzy_ I think it was a big mistake for Southgate to choose his kickers based purely on their performance in training Vs experience in the real world. Penalty shoot outs mostly a mental thing, those 2 young guys had never done it before art a high level.
That and Kane massively underperforming the reasons England lost
He did score a decent amount of goals in the knockout games, and it was his pass to Trippier that led to Shaw's goal IIRC. And it wasn't the first of those passes from the EPL's assist and goal scoring leader for 2020-21....
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@mikethesnow said in Euros:
@machpants said in Euros:
@mofitzy_ I think it was a big mistake for Southgate to choose his kickers based purely on their performance in training Vs experience in the real world. Penalty shoot outs mostly a mental thing, those 2 young guys had never done it before art a high level.
That and Kane massively underperforming the reasons England lost
I'm not a hueg Kane fan but it is tough to blame him for the loss - unless he was disobeying instructions to come deep. There were times when he passed to give an option to cross but nobody was in the box (as he should be there). In the second half, 7 of the 10 players were defending deep and those up front were just crowded out whenever they got the ball as there was nobody to pass to.
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@mikethesnow said in Euros:
@machpants said in Euros:
@mofitzy_ I think it was a big mistake for Southgate to choose his kickers based purely on their performance in training Vs experience in the real world. Penalty shoot outs mostly a mental thing, those 2 young guys had never done it before art a high level.
That and Kane massively underperforming the reasons England lost
I'm not a hueg Kane fan but it is tough to blame him for the loss - unless he was disobeying instructions to come deep. There were times when he passed to give an option to cross but nobody was in the box (as he should be there). In the second half, 7 of the 10 players were defending deep and those up front were just crowded out whenever they got the ball as there was nobody to pass to.
That's the way he played for Spurs. He's more of a threat that way
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Oh dear, not only did they watch their side lose the final on penalties but hundreds of England fans who went to Wembley to watch the final on Sunday now have COVID.
Swathes of England fans report coming down with 'Wembley variant' after Euro 2020 final
One fan said he knew of people who had tested positive for the virus and gone to the match regardless
