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    7 of the England squad test positive for Covid...

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    @bones tagging going on all over the place

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    @voodoo can you dumb it down for me a little please?

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    @bones no

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    So NZC are taking the Mace on tour later this month.

    July 26: Whangarei
    July 27: Auckland
    July 28: Tauranga (AM), Hamilton (PM)
    July 29: New Plymouth (AM), Palmerston North (PM)
    July 30: Wellington
    July 31: Christchurch
    August 1: Dunedin (AM), Invercargill (PM)
    

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    As many as 22 players represented the Black Caps in their 2019-21 WTC campaign, and will receive a pro rata cut of the $2.27 million prizemoney. Will Somerville, Todd Astle and Jeet Raval were not in England and will receive their winners’ medals retrospectively, White said, and take part in the tour, as will Jacob Duffy, Doug Bracewell and Rachin Ravindra who didn’t play in England and missed the cut for the final 15.

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    It’s quite pleasing to realise that apart from Blundell in for Watling as a straight swap we could theoretically field a completely unchanged line up for the first home test.

    Whilst I’ll try my best to get excited about a tour from Bangladesh nothing less than a 2-0 hiding of epic proportions will be satisfactory albeit they do have a few very good players

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    @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @chris-b said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    Not sure how accurate this article is, did those four Windies quicks really only play SIX tests together ? ( I have vague memories of Colin Croft having an outstanding but short career too ).

    Whilst I love what our boys have done I’m not sure they’re at that level.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/125663160/black-caps-fast-bowling-quartet-outshine-fearsome-west-indies-greats

    It probably is.

    Roberts was near the end of his career when Marshall came on the scene. And as you point out, Croft was in the mix - as well as a production line of guys who played bit parts - Wayne Daniel, Winston Davis, Patrick Patterson, Sylvester Clarke, etc - any of whom we would have loved to have had.

    It's interesting that Chappell picks Roberts as the scariest he face. I wonder if he faced Croffie? Probably in WSC. He was a scary mother - from what I've read, might have been a bit unbalanced. I recall Viv Richards said (after Croft became a pilot) that if he ever heard "This is your captain Croft speaking", he'd get off the plane! 🙂

    Relatively speaking Roberts had the “worst” record too, averaging 25. Croft, Bishop and Walsh were all under that and Garner, Ambrose and Marshall had the nerve to average even better than our boy Paddles !

    I agree about Croft, he looked pretty unhinged. How he didn’t get banned for life for this is beyond me.

    I always thought Goodall had a very punchabke face. And dear I say it, almost Adolph like. I can see why he got under the skin of the Windies.

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    @crazy-horse said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @chris-b said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    Not sure how accurate this article is, did those four Windies quicks really only play SIX tests together ? ( I have vague memories of Colin Croft having an outstanding but short career too ).

    Whilst I love what our boys have done I’m not sure they’re at that level.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/125663160/black-caps-fast-bowling-quartet-outshine-fearsome-west-indies-greats

    It probably is.

    Roberts was near the end of his career when Marshall came on the scene. And as you point out, Croft was in the mix - as well as a production line of guys who played bit parts - Wayne Daniel, Winston Davis, Patrick Patterson, Sylvester Clarke, etc - any of whom we would have loved to have had.

    It's interesting that Chappell picks Roberts as the scariest he face. I wonder if he faced Croffie? Probably in WSC. He was a scary mother - from what I've read, might have been a bit unbalanced. I recall Viv Richards said (after Croft became a pilot) that if he ever heard "This is your captain Croft speaking", he'd get off the plane! 🙂

    Relatively speaking Roberts had the “worst” record too, averaging 25. Croft, Bishop and Walsh were all under that and Garner, Ambrose and Marshall had the nerve to average even better than our boy Paddles !

    I agree about Croft, he looked pretty unhinged. How he didn’t get banned for life for this is beyond me.

    I always thought Goodall had a very punchabke face. And dear I say it, almost Adolph like. I can see why he got under the skin of the Windies.

    Just watched again, how good is it hearing Peter Williams ? Like Geoff Bryan it’s pretty cool hearing sports commentators of my youth still going strong today.

    Was the umpiring really that bad or was it sour grapes from the Windies ? Given I was three years old at the time it’s fair to say my memory is a bit hazy so any recollections from old ferners would be appreciated.

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    @mn5 I was only 10 so I don’t recall either. All I remember is the controversy and the piss take song someone did to the tune of Cecelia. It went along the lines of "Mr Goodall, you're breaking my heart..."

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    @crazy-horse said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @mn5 I was only 10 so I don’t recall either. All I remember is the controversy and the piss take song someone did to the tune of Cecelia. It went along the lines of "Mr Goodall, you're breaking my heart..."

    Well in any case a pretty ordinary team beat a brilliant one in a series. Even without Viv Richards that Windies side had some excellent players.

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    @mn5 I think the umpiring was pretty bad. Can't remember whose book it was said there were several clear decisions not given in our famous second innings - might have been Geoff Howarth's.

    I think it got attributed to the bowlers being so much quicker than our umpires were used to.

    I think Fred was a schoolmaster and might have umpired like it.

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    is it weird that Will Sommerville looks very similar to Mitch Satner?
    They were talking to him on tv the other night re the inclusion of a medal and the winners tour.

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    @chris-b said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @mn5 I think the umpiring was pretty bad. Can't remember whose book it was said there were several clear decisions not given in our famous second innings - might have been Geoff Howarth's.

    I think it got attributed to the bowlers being so much quicker than our umpires were used to.

    I think Fred was a schoolmaster and might have umpired like it.

    Also ( and this may be wrong, going off hazy recollections of the Hadlee video I had ) I think Paddles nicked one but didn’t walk because in his words he’d had decisions go against him in the series.

    He did go on and get his maiden ton as well.

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    @mn5 I just had a quick look and it was Lance Cairns' book I'm thinking of.

    He says both sides got some poor decisions but the Windies probably got more. The Windies bowled a lot of short stuff and brushed several gloves that weren't given.

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    @chris-b said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @mn5 I just had a quick look and it was Lance Cairns' book I'm thinking of.

    He says both sides got some poor decisions but the Windies probably got more. The Windies bowled a lot of short stuff and brushed several gloves that weren't given.

    Surely they coulda flown a neutral umpire over for the match. I can see how the Windies woulda been pissed off.

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    @mn5 Neutral umpires weren't a thing in those days. Remember Dick French....? 🙂

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    @chris-b said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @mn5 Neutral umpires weren't a thing in those days. Remember Dick French....? 🙂

    Excellent point…..and no, should I ?

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    @mn5

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    @chris-b said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

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    Holy shit that’s an awful decision !

    “Reasonably unfortunate”……..fuck off, that’s an absolute howler.

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    @mn5 That was a Boxing Day test - the third and final in a series....last wicket we needed.

    Australia won the 3-match series 1-0
    
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