New Crusaders coach

Stargazer

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No chance for the head coach tole I reckon. 
Everything I've heard down here points to Robertson having the inside running
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I agree. At least Robertson, if he is going to be the new head coach, has the opportunity to work with him as an assistant during the JWC. Then he'll get an idea of whether he'd like to have him as an assistant at the Crusaders, or not.

Siam

I don't think they ever wanted to go outside the "family" did they? Not saying Robertson is the one but given how they've gone this year I'd expect they want to leverage the same internal processes and culture rather than assimilate a new outsider. It's not like they're back to the drawing board ala the Blues
 
I wonder if Rob Penney is on a shortlist

Stargazer

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I don't think they ever wanted to go outside the "family" did they? Not saying Robertson is the one but given how they've gone this year I'd expect they want to leverage the same internal processes and culture rather than assimilate a new outsider. It's not like they're back to the drawing board ala the Blues
 
I wonder if Rob Penney is on a shortlist
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Philpott is a Cantab, so not an outsider. It's in the article.

Stargazer

Richard Knowler has been busy copying & pasting from his own work: 
 
Scott Robertson is also keen 

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Former All Black Scott Robertson keen on Crusaders coaching job RICHARD KNOWLER Last updated 18:33, April 19 2016 
 Scott Robertson will apply for the Crusaders coaching job. 
 The ex-All Blacks and Crusaders back rower, who has guided Canterbury to two NPC titles since 2013 and coached the NZ under-20 team to a world title last year, is backing his experience and passion for the Super Rugby club to make him the right man to replace Todd Blackadder when he leaves at the end of the season. 
 Last week the Crusaders board, in conjunction with NZ Rugby, invited applicants to forward their CVs before May 11. Hawke's Bay coach Craig Philpott has also confirmed he will apply, while Taranaki's Colin Cooper remains undecided. 
 Robertson, who played 23 tests and was a key member of the Crusaders side that grew into a juggernaut in the late 1990s, believes he has gathered enough intelligence as a coach to be a success at Super Rugby level. 
 "Yes, I would love to be involved," Robertson said. "I have been patient, for a long time, for an opportunity to come up. Having been involved with Canterbury for around eight years and the NZ under-20 team for three (two as an assistant), I think the timing for me and my family is right. I am a red and black man and it would be something that would be very dear to me." 
 Working as an assistant coach was something he would also consider. "Whatever the capacity - I am open to that. There are a lot of good men around with a lot of experience that I am happy to work with." 
 Although he had previously worked under Rob Penney, who won four consecutive titles between 2008-11 and is now coaching in Japan, Robertson hadn't asked his old mentor to put in a joint bid to work at the Crusaders. 
 Philpott, an ex-lock who represented Canterbury between 1987-92 and has coached Hawke's Bay since 2012, is backing his depth of knowledge in the game. 
 Philpott's time at the Magpies has coincided with them mounting several successful Ranfurly Shield raids and also gaining promotion to the NPC premiership after beating Wellington in the championship final last season. 
 "One of the reasons I left Canterbury was to increase my skills as a head coach and always, I guess, with a view to one day come home and maybe be involved with the Crusaders," Philpott said. 
 A former Canterbury colts coach, Philpott, who will assist Robertson with the NZ under-20s this season, was also open to the concept of working as an assistant: "I am relatively relaxed in that regard." "There is a big queue of good coaches around the country, and particularly in Christchurch - I am sure it will be a very competitive environment," he stated. "I am well aware of all the guys that are down there like Tabai Matson, Dave Hewett and Razor [Robertson] ... We will just see who puts their hand up. Then it will be up to the powers to be to see if they can fit the pieces of the puzzle." 
 Cooper assisted Robbie Deans when the Crusaders swept through the 2002 season unbeaten, and was Hurricanes head coach between 2003 and 2010. He has coached Taranaki for the last five seasons and is also the NZ Maori coach. 
 He will bide his time before making a call: "I am not sure. I just have to make a decision about whether I want to go back to Super Rugby."
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 <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/79092787/excanty-lock-philpott-keen-on-crusaders-job'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/79092787/excanty-lock-philpott-keen-on-crusaders-job</a>

Siam

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Philpott is a Cantab, so not an outsider. It's in the article.
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 yes, I was talking in more general terms, and agree with some that his appointment would be a bit left field, only a bit mind you

Wurzel

Penney and Razor working together again would be grand. But I imagine Robertson's profile has grown so big so quickly he wouldn't take an assistants role.

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Penney and Razor working together again would be grand. But I imagine Robertson's profile has grown so big so quickly he wouldn't take an assistants role.
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Despite him saying to the media, he would consider it?

Siam

Kieran Keane could be a bolter

SammyC

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I wish I'd take him and Leon in a second 
Unfortunately that horse has bolted, Keane wasn't very complementary of the crusaders set up when he signed for the Chiefs.

Cantab79

Robertson or Matson. Both have won provincial titles with Canterbury. Robertson has a successful Junior World Cup on his resume, whilst Matson has experience as a SR Assistant Coach. I suspect it will be Robertson, and mainly because after an extended period with no titles the Crusaders board may want some new blood and new ideas. In saying that, Matson would do a great job if given the chance.

Nepia

Take Philpott please my Crusader buddies.

Billy Tell

Philpott taught me at school. He was sound enough, but not particularly inspiring.
 
This has no relevance to the thread, but I thought I'd share it anyway...

SammyC

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Robertson or Matson. Both have won provincial titles with Canterbury. Robertson has a successful Junior World Cup on his resume, whilst Matson has experience as a SR Assistant Coach. I suspect it will be Robertson, and mainly because after an extended period with no titles the Crusaders board may want some new blood and new ideas. In saying that, Matson would do a great job if given the chance.
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I'd much prefer Robertson.
 
I heard Matson talk at a fundraser thing a couple of years back, he came across as an absolute moron.
 
Nice but Dim would be a good description, loved using the jargon and big words but didnt seem to have any ideas of his own.

Cantab79

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I'd much prefer Robertson.
 
I heard Matson talk at a fundraser thing a couple of years back, he came across as an absolute moron.
 
Nice but Dim would be a good description, loved using the jargon and big words but didnt seem to have any ideas of his own. 
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I'd prefer Robertson too. In saying that Matson's title winning season with Canterbury was very impressive. From memory we played a really great style of Rugby and he was also rebuilding at the same time. However I think we need some new blood at the Crusaders and a line needs to be drawn on the Blackadder era.

Chris B.

Jesus.
 
If Razor sounds like a genius in comparison, then Tabai's really in planktown! :)

Smudge

Penney reckons he's no hope for either the Highlanders or Crusaders.
 
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Penney had been mooted as a contender to step into Jamie Joseph's shoes but he told the Otago Daily Times yesterday he would not be considered for the job.
Penney said he was not in the loop for the job and was not in a position to consider himself for the post.
Asked if he was chasing the Crusaders head coaching position, given Todd Blackadder is moving on at the end of the season, he said that was also unlikely.
He declined further comment.
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<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/379520/rugby-penney-latest-coach-rule-himself-out'>http://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/379520/rugby-penney-latest-coach-rule-himself-out</a>

SammyC

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Jesus.
 
If Razor sounds like a genius in comparison, then Tabai's really in planktown! :)
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I really like Robertsons passion. Have heard him speak on the radio a few times and he mentions things like pride in the jersey quite a lot.
 
I think we are seeing his influence on the team this year.
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He's also followed a traditional path to get there, Schoolboy coaching followed by a lengthy stint in Club footy as coach of Sumner (he really excelled here, turning a struggling club into a force), then NPC. So has paid his dues.
 
 
 
But agree he probably isn't the sharpest guy around.
 
 
Dave Hewitt is a really smart guy and I hope he stays on as an assistant.

Rancid Schnitzel

Aren't you guys forgetting someone? Crusaders legend, former Crusaders assistant, now in his 5th year as a Super head coach. Also a (short) stint overseas....

pukunui

Hammer?

Crucial

The Silver Fern

New Crusaders coach