Planes
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@snowy yeah I guess they'd just taken off from the golf course? The gazelle was a bitch to auto, but could be done at any stage - enough that you don't get those injuries. The photographer mentioning the pilot was 'freaking out' is not a good look!
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@machpants said in Planes:
I’m not sure how well an R44 autorotates but an engine failure should not be that bad for injuries
It was right after take off so might have been dead mans curve stuff. Not masses of inertia in R44 blades but they auto O.K. Not like a Huey that you can land, pick it up turn it around but not too bad.
Have done practice auto in a mate's one but had airspeed and altitude. This guy probably didn't have either.
Strange comment about Robbies in there. The R44 doesn't have a bad record and 22 only did because of crazy shit that people were doing in them. Mostly Kiwis. Mast bump and clutch issues aside.
And as you typed that this story hit the headlines. A probable mast bump in a R44.
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@NTA Yeah knew about the Komet and the 262. Those bastards knew how to build shit alright
They still do.
Miele, Bosche, to Audi, Porsche, Mercedes, etc. Just good, built to last, engineering.Falke. Best socks I've ever bought, and I went through a phase of trying out a few pricey ones.
My bad. Forgot about socks.
To this day, the thing I resent most about my virus-enforced repatriation to NZ - is that my extensive collection of Falke socks are sitting in London... the one I brought with me, wore out on the London-Beijing trip.
And, those socks are the thing pressing me most to consider shipping all my shit back to NZ.
But... I can't quite bring myself to spending a couple hundred dollars on new ones, with the availability in NZ being shit.Airplanes -> socks. I give you... The Silver Fern.
I ran into the same problem with being stuck in NZ. Love my Falke socks. You can get them at Smith & Caughey, and they do free delivery.
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@machpants said in Planes:
@crucial Jesus, not nice. You wouldn't get me in a Robinson, esp R22
I've done a bit in them, but reluctant about the 22 in particular.
Really a twin turbine is more my style anyway. I just have some finance issues with them.
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@machpants said in Planes:
@crucial Jesus, not nice. You wouldn't get me in a Robinson, esp R22
Ugh, stats are appalling
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/125559838/robinson-helicopter-crashes--pilot-error-or-faulty-design
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@machpants a friend has lost two brothers to R22 crashes. Not sure if mast bumping was a cause but both were highly skilled and experienced pilots.
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@machpants a friend has lost two brothers to R22 crashes. Not sure if mast bumping was a cause but both were highly skilled and experienced pilots.
I don't really want to ask details from him to be honest.Fucking hell! I thought fast jet flying in RAF was dangerous enough!
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@machpants a friend has lost two brothers to R22 crashes. Not sure if mast bumping was a cause but both were highly skilled and experienced pilots.
I don't really want to ask details from him to be honest.We did all sorts of things with R22s in NZ that they really weren't designed for. Mostly hunting. They are a training and personal transport helicopter. Not for chasing animals through valleys.
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@machpants a friend has lost two brothers to R22 crashes. Not sure if mast bumping was a cause but both were highly skilled and experienced pilots.
I don't really want to ask details from him to be honest.We did all sorts of things with R22s in NZ that they really weren't designed for. Mostly hunting. They are a training and personal transport helicopter. Not for chasing animals through valleys.
I have found the report on one one of the accidents. Had been converted for spraying and was operating outside of limits due to "inaccurate weight and balance information being provided to the pilot post installation"
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Accidents involving R22s aren't surprising when you see how they're used in mustering. CASA put out an airworthiness bulletin about them two years ago https://www.casa.gov.au/files/awb-85-025-issue-1-robinson-r22r44-engine-intake-valve-and-valve-seat-distress
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@machpants a friend has lost two brothers to R22 crashes. Not sure if mast bumping was a cause but both were highly skilled and experienced pilots.
I don't really want to ask details from him to be honest.We did all sorts of things with R22s in NZ that they really weren't designed for. Mostly hunting. They are a training and personal transport helicopter. Not for chasing animals through valleys.
I have found the report on one one of the accidents. Had been converted for spraying and was operating outside of limits due to "inaccurate weight and balance information being provided to the pilot post installation"
Had forgotten about spraying and mustering @antipodean , but as I said they just aren't built for what people used them for. Not really the machines fault. I don't use my digger to go to the supermarket either. Apart from being slow, the tracks wear out.
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R22 + R44 referred to as “lawn darts” in some circles here. Wouldn’t catch me in one….turbine plz…
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@mantissanet said in Planes:
R22 + R44 referred to as “lawn darts” in some circles here. Wouldn’t catch me in one….turbine plz…
Jet engines not a guarantee of safety
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@mantissanet said in Planes:
turbine plz…
Minimum of two. Preferably PT6 in a fixed wing. After my 5th engine failure in PNG, 3 complete, 2 partial I wanted a job flying one of these:
There is 8 times the chance of a failure than a single engine of course but you probably won't end up upside down in a burning aeroplane if one lets go.
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'Total power loss' caused wedding day chopper crash
