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  • boobooB Do not disturb
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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

    @hooroo If you back your judgement and your judgement is good, then players who miss out aren't unlucky, they are less deserving than those who got picked.

    Ahh semantics crossed with FDS.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    Look who shared this. I love him. Make him an AB next time Fozzie you dumbass.

    whether anyone thinks he should be there or not it hard to argue with how much it means to them which is cool to see, more than just a job

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

    @hooroo If you back your judgement and your judgement is good, then players who miss out aren't unlucky, they are less deserving than those who got picked.

    I think I'm happier with just "unlucky players". πŸ™‚

    Even though Big Leicester is one of my Mako boys, I have to say that right now, I'd choose Bridge ahead of him. Leicester still makes a lot of mistakes - regardless of colours he's not safe.

    He should be a Fern favourite right now, though - because if he'd just recycled that ball close to the line instead of crabbing over the line and getting penalized, the Crusaders would have scored the try they needed and recent history might be quite different.... πŸ™‚

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    @chris-b said in All Blacks 2021:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

    @hooroo If you back your judgement and your judgement is good, then players who miss out aren't unlucky, they are less deserving than those who got picked.

    I think I'm happier with just "unlucky players". πŸ™‚

    Even though Big Leicester is one of my Mako boys, I have to say that right now, I'd choose Bridge ahead of him. Leicester still makes a lot of mistakes - regardless of colours he's not safe.

    He should be a Fern favourite right now, though - because if he'd just recycled that ball close to the line instead of crabbing over the line and getting penalized, the Crusaders would have scored the try they needed and recent history might be quite different.... πŸ™‚

    Or Ennor dropping the ball with the line open. Quality AB play there.

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    @kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:

    @chris-b said in All Blacks 2021:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

    @hooroo If you back your judgement and your judgement is good, then players who miss out aren't unlucky, they are less deserving than those who got picked.

    I think I'm happier with just "unlucky players". πŸ™‚

    Even though Big Leicester is one of my Mako boys, I have to say that right now, I'd choose Bridge ahead of him. Leicester still makes a lot of mistakes - regardless of colours he's not safe.

    He should be a Fern favourite right now, though - because if he'd just recycled that ball close to the line instead of crabbing over the line and getting penalized, the Crusaders would have scored the try they needed and recent history might be quite different.... πŸ™‚

    Or Ennor dropping the ball with the line open. Quality AB play there.

    Might be a prerequisite for Fozzie's AB centres? πŸ™‚

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    @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

    @chris Is Enari staying at the Crusaders? He was an absolute gun at U20 level, then basically didn't play for several years. Has also suffered under poor coaching at Canterbury. There must be something wrong with him if he doesn't move to get more opportunity, as he will have doomed any international aspirations by staying in the same franchise.

    Enari has been out of NPC and SR for at least a year, because of a horror leg injury. I think it was 2019?

    He has now moved away from Canterbury and will be the top dog in the Magpies' squad, with both Weber and Fakatava unavailable. The Magpies have great coaches. He now gets the chance to prove himself and should grab the opportunity with both hands. If successful, who knows whether/where he'll end up playing Super Rugby?

    Who the hell would move to an NPC team with already Fakatava and Webber there in your position? Game time will be pure luck, not design.

    The guy has a great knack for terrible transfers, it seems.

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    @african-monkey said in All Blacks 2021:

    @tim Lets be honest, if Akira didn't push and shove after scoring tries early in his career, everyone would love him and there would be no dispute as to whether he should be there or not.'

    He's the enforcer we've been looking for since Kaino moved on.

    I don't think it's as simple as that, though I do agree with your last sentence.

    BBBR is a head rubber/pusher from way back but has always been awesome so people over look the dickhead part of his game.

    There were not many fluffybunnyier players than Dane Coles in NZ rugby. People got over this once his form become undeniable. He's still a fluffybunny.

    It's pretty obvious now that AIoane had his own demons that needed to be sorted. It wasn't as simple as 'he pushes people after he/they score'. But Hansen seems to have completely misread him as a person and rather building him as a person and player, he shamed him in public. This might be the kick in the arse some young guys need but it had the exact opposite effect on AIoane to the detriment of NZ rugby. Hansen had a bit of history with this in Ross and Luatua before.

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    #1312

    Is Bridge even fit again?

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    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

    Is Bridge even fit again?

    FIFY

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    @rapido said in All Blacks 2021:

    @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

    @chris Is Enari staying at the Crusaders? He was an absolute gun at U20 level, then basically didn't play for several years. Has also suffered under poor coaching at Canterbury. There must be something wrong with him if he doesn't move to get more opportunity, as he will have doomed any international aspirations by staying in the same franchise.

    Enari has been out of NPC and SR for at least a year, because of a horror leg injury. I think it was 2019?

    He has now moved away from Canterbury and will be the top dog in the Magpies' squad, with both Weber and Fakatava unavailable. The Magpies have great coaches. He now gets the chance to prove himself and should grab the opportunity with both hands. If successful, who knows whether/where he'll end up playing Super Rugby?

    Who the hell would move to an NPC team with already Fakatava and Webber there in your position? Game time will be pure luck, not design.

    The guy has a great knack for terrible transfers, it seems.

    Brad Weber is with the ABs this season, and it may very well be his last in NZ.
    Fakatava won't play for us this year because of his injury, and may very well be in the ABs, next year, or the following year.
    The guy has made a good move. He's first choice this season, and first or second choice next year.

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    @bovidae I saw him on photos of the Crusaders' training during the last week of the SR T-T round robin. Running at the time, no contact training, I think, that week.

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    #1316

    Fozzie on Christie:

    β€œWith Finlay, we were really excited with how fast [he is], he's quick to the ruck, and things happen around him,” All Blacks coach Foster said.

    β€œIt's like he’s had too much sugar before each game. He runs around and is very, very busy.”

    Probably sums up all the good and bad of his play right there!

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    @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

    @rapido said in All Blacks 2021:

    @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

    @chris Is Enari staying at the Crusaders? He was an absolute gun at U20 level, then basically didn't play for several years. Has also suffered under poor coaching at Canterbury. There must be something wrong with him if he doesn't move to get more opportunity, as he will have doomed any international aspirations by staying in the same franchise.

    Enari has been out of NPC and SR for at least a year, because of a horror leg injury. I think it was 2019?

    He has now moved away from Canterbury and will be the top dog in the Magpies' squad, with both Weber and Fakatava unavailable. The Magpies have great coaches. He now gets the chance to prove himself and should grab the opportunity with both hands. If successful, who knows whether/where he'll end up playing Super Rugby?

    Who the hell would move to an NPC team with already Fakatava and Webber there in your position? Game time will be pure luck, not design.

    The guy has a great knack for terrible transfers, it seems.

    Brad Weber is with the ABs this season, and it may very well be his last in NZ.
    Fakatava won't play for us this year because of his injury, and may very well be in the ABs, next year, or the following year.
    The guy has made a good move. He's first choice this season, and first or second choice next year.

    When did he make the move, though? Design or luck?

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    @rapido said in All Blacks 2021:

    @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

    @rapido said in All Blacks 2021:

    @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

    @chris Is Enari staying at the Crusaders? He was an absolute gun at U20 level, then basically didn't play for several years. Has also suffered under poor coaching at Canterbury. There must be something wrong with him if he doesn't move to get more opportunity, as he will have doomed any international aspirations by staying in the same franchise.

    Enari has been out of NPC and SR for at least a year, because of a horror leg injury. I think it was 2019?

    He has now moved away from Canterbury and will be the top dog in the Magpies' squad, with both Weber and Fakatava unavailable. The Magpies have great coaches. He now gets the chance to prove himself and should grab the opportunity with both hands. If successful, who knows whether/where he'll end up playing Super Rugby?

    Who the hell would move to an NPC team with already Fakatava and Webber there in your position? Game time will be pure luck, not design.

    The guy has a great knack for terrible transfers, it seems.

    Brad Weber is with the ABs this season, and it may very well be his last in NZ.
    Fakatava won't play for us this year because of his injury, and may very well be in the ABs, next year, or the following year.
    The guy has made a good move. He's first choice this season, and first or second choice next year.

    When did he make the move, though? Design or luck?

    Being potentially second choice in a 14 team competition behind a player so important/good that he will probably only get 10 mins each round. He may Steve Bradbury his way to 80 minutes each week, but was it the best option.

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

    Fozzie on Christie:

    β€œWith Finlay, we were really excited with how fast [he is], he's quick to the ruck, and things happen around him,” All Blacks coach Foster said.

    β€œIt's like he’s had too much sugar before each game. He runs around and is very, very busy.”

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    Which Christie is he watching?

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  • FrankF Offline
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    If Akira plays like he did in his two AB starts so far, he'll be one of the first names on the teamsheet. A physically dominant 6 is exactly what we need.

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    replied to Rapido on last edited by Stargazer
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    @rapido Are you talking to yourself? πŸ˜‚

    They wouldn't have signed Enari if they expected Fakatava to be available, this year. Fakatava got injured reasonably early in the season; without his injury, Fakatava also had a very good chance to be in the ABs (with Weber, because no TJP). So his move to the Magpies was to have him there as a first choice halfback, this year (and probably next year, as well).

    Anyway, why again are you discussing an NPC signing by a team you don't support in an All Blacks thread?

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    @stargazer When is Fakatava likely to be fit to play again? Any chance he could go on whatever sort of EOYT we have planned?

    I gather he'll likely be in a sort of eligibility limbo next year if he can't play this year due to changing/lengthening of residency requirements?

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    #1323

    Fakatava was an ACL wasn't it? even professional sportsmen take several months dont they?

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    @chris-b He got injured on 2 April 2021 (full ACL tear requiring surgery). At the time, they said his injury had an rehabilitation period of 9 - 12 months. That would mean Jan-April 2022.

    Indeed, it may result in eligibility limbo. They need to seek clarification from World Rugby asap about whether his stay in NZ during his school years amounts to principal residence in NZ (which would mean that the residency period can already start to run in the year he moved to NZ) or whether they use the standard interpretation, that his principal residence was with his parents in Tonga (a bit complicated, because IIRC only one of his parents lived in Tonga and the other one in Australia, and he hardly went back to either). This would mean that his residency period starts to run when he left school. There's a two years difference between both interpretations, which are crucial if the 5-years residency starts to run at the end of this year (as expected).

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