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    Who are the halfbacks going to be this year? You have Smith and then ... ?

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    @tim daylight is a distant 2nd.

    IMO Nock has the closest game to Smith but he is a fairway off the ABs, inconsistent and can't start for the Blues (although as I've mentioned all year this is part of the issue at the blues for 9)

    Had Fakatava not been injured i think he'd have been a shoe in for the squad, but we have TJP or Webber to back up...

    I wouldn't be keen on Christie, TTT, Hall or Steve Smiths twin...so the cupboard is bare.

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    @taniwharugby Not at all keen on Weber or Christie. Other than Fakatava, Roe and Nock are the only others with the skills.

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    Play DMac there as an emergency measure, then keep him in the pocket as an RWC back up!

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    @tim Roigard looks bloody decent but he’s far too young.

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    @tim surely Lomax, he’s been decent this year.

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    @canes4life Yeah, guys like him and Roe are too young yet. Maybe worth giving them some time training with the squad though.

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    @tim yeah I wouldn’t mind seeing Roigard and Love get a shot at training with the A.Bs. That’s just me being a selfish Canes fan wanting them to get experience though as I think they will be the halves pairing for the Canes going forward.

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    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

    Not at all keen on Weber or Christie

    I think Christie probably will get picked though. Apparently he was going to get called up last year but got sick

    With the lack of depth they might want to cap him before Scotland do

    I can't remember the last time the halfback depth was this shitty?

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    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

    @taniwharugby Not at all keen on Weber or Christie. Other than Fakatava, Roe and Nock are the only others with the skills.

    With TJP unavailable, Weber will make it. Not a fan, but that’s the situation with many inexperienced halfbacks and the couple of experienced ones being overlooked.

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    @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

    Play DMac there as an emergency measure, then keep him in the pocket as an RWC back up!

    TBH playing at halfback seems a silly way to utilise DMacs skills. He is best as first or second receiver on multiple phases. He basically carried the Chiefs this year doing that.

    I don’t think just because he’s small that should automatically make him a halfback. If that was the thinking let’s give Mo a go there too.

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    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

    @taniwharugby Not at all keen on Weber or Christie. Other than Fakatava, Roe and Nock are the only others with the skills.

    With TJP unavailable, Weber will make it. Not a fan, but that’s the situation with many inexperienced halfbacks and the couple of experienced ones being overlooked.

    Wah, my two Crusaders are being overlooked. (Just thought I’d translate that for any newcomers). 😏

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    @tim Personally I've not been particularly blown away by either Patrick T or Dane Coles this year. Senior players, with lots of experience and some great past performances but I'm not fully convinced about them as ABs going forward. Think Vaii and Eklund might be better players.

    I'd give the Third Prop slot to Tamaiti Williams. Think he's an outstanding prospect.

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    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

    @taniwharugby Not at all keen on Weber or Christie. Other than Fakatava, Roe and Nock are the only others with the skills.

    Half Back is the position where selection is problematic.

    Of the older guys it's Aaron Smith then daylight, then some more daylight. Weber and Drummond are adequate at international at best. Hall might do a job for the ABs especially in tandem with Mo'unga. TJP has been repeatedly tried and found wanting. Not convinced by TTT, Nock or Christie.

    Of the young guys I rate Fakatava (but he's injured and might not be NZ available) and Roe (but the Chiefs haven't given him huge game time).

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

    Personally I've not been particularly blown away by either Patrick T or Dane Coles this year

    Patrick hasn’t started a game since March. He’s finally over the injury and was strong off the bench yesterday

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    @duluth If he has been a bit injured all season then that would explain the drop off in his performance. Agree that Patrick Tuipulotu looked sharp yesterday. Worth his place in the squad if fully fit. If not there's Vaii or PPP.

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    @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

    @tim Roigard looks bloody decent but he’s far too young.

    I like what I've seen of Roigard but think he needs more Rugby under his belt before being considered for the International squad.

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    @sparky 100% he's only twenty. A few more years in Super will do him good, I just hope the Canes have signed him up.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

    @duluth If he has been a bit injured all season then that would explain the drop off in his performance. Agree that Patrick Tuipulotu looked sharp yesterday. Worth his place in the squad if fully fit. If not there's Vaii or PPP.

    His lack of performance is down to not playing.

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    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

    @taniwharugby Not at all keen on Weber or Christie. Other than Fakatava, Roe and Nock are the only others with the skills.

    With TJP unavailable, Weber will make it. Not a fan, but that’s the situation with many inexperienced halfbacks and the couple of experienced ones being overlooked.

    I quite like Hall, but I think I'm influenced by the rugby podcast as much as his form (or relative lack of it).

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