Super Rugby Trans Tasman
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I can understand the wish to have an entirely domestic comp rather than be subjected to another weekend like that just passed. That would in some small way alleviate the loss of interest, but it comes at the risk of not being exposed to a level of competence that would in time further degrade Australian rugby IMO.
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@antipodean i don't think that really holds up. We've been playing NZ more than anyone and we are worse than ever in the pro era.
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@derpus said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@antipodean i don't think that really holds up. We've been playing NZ more than anyone and we are worse than ever in the pro era.
Imagine how bad they'd be if they weren't?
It's not being beaten that's reducing skills in Australia. It's the incompetent administration.
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@antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
It's not being beaten that's reducing skills in Australia. It's the incompetent administration.
Well that and the massive offshore talent drain, coupled with the increasing competition for young talent from other codes.
But to be honest I wouldn't read too much into the last round of games. Sure we're a step below the Kiwis, but I actually would argue we might be closer across the board than we were 3-4 years ago.
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@antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@derpus said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@antipodean i don't think that really holds up. We've been playing NZ more than anyone and we are worse than ever in the pro era.
Imagine how bad they'd be if they weren't?
It's not being beaten that's reducing skills in Australia. It's the incompetent administration.
Agreed. AU rugby has suffered in spite of NZ competition, not because of.
Take the scrum for example, imagine what would happen against France if their only opponents had been themselves? Carnage.
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@barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
It's not being beaten that's reducing skills in Australia. It's the incompetent administration.
Well that and the massive offshore talent drain, coupled with the increasing competition for young talent from other codes.
Australia isn't alone in facing those problems.
But to be honest I wouldn't read too much into the last round of games. Sure we're a step below the Kiwis, but I actually would argue we might be closer across the board than we were 3-4 years ago.
I certainly hope so. It would be disastrous if Australian rugby had regressed from 2017 levels. The expectation is that the Australian teams have reset their knowledge of the standard required to compete and the schedule evens out.
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@antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
It's not being beaten that's reducing skills in Australia. It's the incompetent administration.
Well that and the massive offshore talent drain, coupled with the increasing competition for young talent from other codes.
Australia isn't alone in facing those problems.
That's true, but I'd argue they face a unique set of circumstances with the landscape in Australian sport. The competition from AFL being a central part of that, as is the relative dominance of rugby league.
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@barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
It's not being beaten that's reducing skills in Australia. It's the incompetent administration.
Well that and the massive offshore talent drain, coupled with the increasing competition for young talent from other codes.
Australia isn't alone in facing those problems.
That's true, but I'd argue they face a unique set of circumstances with the landscape in Australian sport. The competition from AFL being a central part of that, as is the relative dominance of rugby league.
Even then the population of NSW and QLD easily outstrips NZ, which gets raided by the NRL for talent.
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@barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
That's true, but I'd argue they face a unique set of circumstances with the landscape in Australian sport. The competition from AFL being a central part of that, as is the relative dominance of rugby league.
<<<Insert rant about RA's complete neglect of Western Sydney here>>>
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@antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@barbarian said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@antipodean said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
It's not being beaten that's reducing skills in Australia. It's the incompetent administration.
Well that and the massive offshore talent drain, coupled with the increasing competition for young talent from other codes.
Australia isn't alone in facing those problems.
That's true, but I'd argue they face a unique set of circumstances with the landscape in Australian sport. The competition from AFL being a central part of that, as is the relative dominance of rugby league.
Even then the population of NSW and QLD easily outstrips NZ, which gets raided by the NRL for talent.
Yeah I know, as I said before everyone faces the problem to a varying extent. And I'm not just comparing to NZ here.
But rugby is in the ascendancy in NZ, and it's just not over here. That's a pretty big pull factor to have if you're a young player.
Obviously there are many other reasons why things are the way they are now, but competition for young talent is one factor.
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@bones said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@crucial said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
I could find easily a dozen examples during the game of players on the wrong side that weren’t penalised
Go on then. Is it as easily as Tiatia scores tries?
Do you want circles or arrows?
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@crucial said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@bones said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@crucial said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
I could find easily a dozen examples during the game of players on the wrong side that weren’t penalised
Go on then. Is it as easily as Tiatia scores tries?
Do you want circles or arrows?
Probably doesn't matter as long as it spells CHIEFS RULZ
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@machpants said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
Worth a flutter on the brumbies
Who sets these odds? The Chiefs often struggle against the Brumbies and lost to them in Hamilton last year. I'll be at the game but the Chiefs will need to play their A game to win.
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Surprised the force so high after last week.
Bet of the week is on the Blues...
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@bones said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@crucial said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@bones said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
@crucial said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:
I could find easily a dozen examples during the game of players on the wrong side that weren’t penalised
Go on then. Is it as easily as Tiatia scores tries?
Do you want circles or arrows?
Probably doesn't matter as long as it spells CHIEFS RULZ
Or Canes, or whoever he’s supporting this week.
