Boxing Thread
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@raznomore said in Boxing Thread:
Browne you're fucking disgrace. This is why boxing is fucked. He offered up his chin and went down initially to slapping punches. I know his chin is shit but that was weak rubbish and in my opinion an obvious dive.
Just rubbish
Nothing new though, while on the road I’ve been googling lots of stuff on the enigma that was Sonny Liston. A very interesting and strange life and I’m fucken positive he took a dive in the second Ali fight.
I also reckon that as his boxing skills faded with age the mob had no use for him and “whacked” him.
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Joe looks in fantastic shape and seems really happy since hooking up with Andy Lee
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@kiwiinmelb I'd like to see him use more power from his legs and look at employing a nice big hook up under the chin... A recent article by him on what Andy Lee got him to look at gave me the impression he was coasting with Barry. He also said he may have been overtraining.
I'd like to see him use his speed and combos and come in only when needed. His speed is surely an advantage, his punching power not so much. -
Chisora's camp saying they won't try and box. Just go hard and overpower Joe. Who knows if that is just pre-match talk or not.
Hope Joe puts some dancing feet on.
In his early days his hand speed looked to be his biggest asset. I don't know if he lost it or if it was trained out of him. -
@crucial said in Boxing Thread:
Chisora's camp saying they won't try and box. Just go hard and overpower Joe. Who knows if that is just pre-match talk or not.
Hope Joe puts some dancing feet on.
In his early days his hand speed looked to be his biggest asset. I don't know if he lost it or if it was trained out of him.Chisora only knows one way , walk forward throwing bombs , no doubt he will try and bully Joe
I guess its what has made him popular in the UK , he is nothing special in reality , but always brings the aggression , and gets a bit of respect for that
I think Joe getting involved with the gypsy boys might just be a good thing to sharpen his skills , we find out i guess
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Problem for joe , chisora is probably pinching the rounds through just being the aggressor
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@dice said in Boxing Thread:
Parker needs to throw more, especially with Chisora looking fatigued.
story of parkers career , doent quite seize the crucial moments ,
but if there is a positive , i thought there were improvements in his movement and punch selection even if it wasnt often enough ,
with only a 6 week camp with a new trainer for this fight , he should improve further if they stick together
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Next week
Canelo v Billy Joe Saunders should be interesting
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@dice Don't agree personally. I had the first 3 to Chisora, 4-11 to Parker and then the last to Chisora but only just, so I had it 115-112 Parker but almost gave the last to Parker so I can see where the 116-111 came from.
Parker really made things hard for himself having said all that. He would land 2-3 punch combos which would hurt Chisora thoughout the fight, and then instead of piling on the pressure and trying to avoid the stoppage, he'd stand there and admire his work, letting Chisora recover before Chisora would start marching forward throwing his overhand right or backing Parker to the ropes to unleash to the body. He let Chisora off a lot when he could have stopped him.
Parker still lacks a killer instinct. He's far too nice when he could be a lot more aggressive. It's what his team should be trying to knock into him going forward but I fear it's too late.
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@african-monkey the trainer needs to get in his face with washed up pussy and drugcheat type comments or get him in lockdown with a wife who has been married for 10 years or more, has been told she is early pre-menopausal and isn't allowed to watch her fave tv shows or eat chocolate.
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A question for those who follow boxing more closely.
The Heavyweight class officially starts at 90.71kg.
So technically, Beauden Barrett - if he were to take up boxing - would fight as a heavyweight.
Which would line him up against Parker (Richie McCaw size) or Chisora (Kieran Read) or Tyson Fury (Nepo Laulala).
If you're Beaudy, you'd drop a couple of kgs and box a weight class down. But, someone who is naturally 95-100kgs - they're way outmatched fighting someone good and as big as Fury.
Where do they fight?
Aren't the old weight classes a bit outdated now everyone on average is much bigger?
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@chris-b That's why the WBC funnily enough have decided to try a new weight division (Bridgerweight) where 224 pounds is the weight limit, but yes, to answer your question, someone weighing 95-100 kg would drop down to Cruiserweight (unles your Deontay Wilder).
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@african-monkey It didn't seem like Parker or Lee thought it was that far apart. It seemed they weren't confident that they would win it.
Here are the punch stats.
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@dice Punch stats are like tackle stats - they don't lie (sometimes they do), but they don't tell the whole story either. Parker's work from the middle of round 4 onwards was far more effective than Chisora's as Chisora began to gas from the mid rounds and although he may have been landing with a very ineffective jab and pitter patter punches in the clinch, a lot of Parker's work was hurting Chisora which outweighed Chisora's workrate which was having little effect on Parker.
Case in point being round 12. Yes, Chisora worked more throughout the round, but Parker would have stolen the round on a lot of cards with a couple of 2-3 punch combos which hurt Chisora during the middle of the round. I thought Chisora just nicked the round as Parker didn't quite do enough other than that short burst, but the point is, is that rounds will be given to the fighters who do the better work in rounds, not necessarily the guy who lands more.
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@african-monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@chris-b That's why the WBC funnily enough have decided to try a new weight division (Bridgerweight) where 224 pounds is the weight limit, but yes, to answer your question, someone weighing 95-100 kg would drop down to Cruiserweight (unles your Deontay Wilder).
Bridgerweight sounds like a good idea - slightly shit name!
It's a bit weird that the lower weight divisions have only 3-4 lbs separation - but, then you get to Heavyweight and suddenly you could readily have 30kgs between fighters.
Could easily have Bridgerweight and then another division from 100-110kgs. Heavyweight above that.
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@african-monkey I agree about punch stats, although I sort of think this one reflects the fight for me.
I think most had it as a close fight. I think that's why so many were mad at that 116 - 111 scorecard. I don't think it was a robbery like some thought though.
