Brumbies v Chiefs

MN5

I liken him to Anton Oliver to some extent in terms of his personality yet contrarily I reckon he'd be a great guy to have a brew and a yarn with.

SammyC

I remember meeting James Slipper through a mate of mine when I lived on the gold coast. 
 
Firstly, I'm amazed that Slipper turned out as good as he did (enjoyed his McDonalds, liquor and ciggys when I met him)
 
He told me a story about Pocock... apparently he used to (unsure if he still does) set his alarm for 2am each night. Get up, do 100 burpees, 100 press ups and 100 squats, eat 2 chicken breasts and then go back to bed.

Crucial

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="570508" data-time="1460079635">
<div>
I remember meeting James Slipper through a mate of mine when I lived on the gold coast. 
 
Firstly, I'm amazed that Slipper turned out as good as he did (enjoyed his McDonalds, liquor and ciggys when I met him)
 
He told me a story about Pocock... apparently he used to (unsure if he still does) set his alarm for 2am each night. Get up, do 100 burpees, 100 press ups and 100 squats, eat 2 chicken breasts and then go back to bed.
</div>
</blockquote>
 
 
and that's what is wrong with the guy. He didn't even take an extra couple of minutes to roll the missus over.

antipodean

There's no doubt he's driven, nor that he's unbelievable over the ball and only a twat would suggest he doesn't really deeply care about social equality etc. but it's the deification that I find nauseating. He's not the best flanker running around, not by a long shot with the obvious limitations to his game. And people who so carefully craft a public perception raise my internal bullshitometer - you can do all those things without the need to constantly tell me you're doing them. You're not the special snow flake standing against the public tide here.
 
And that I would contend is the issue; the apology is more about protecting his brand.

MN5

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="570512" data-time="1460080014">
<div>
and that's what is wrong with the guy. He didn't even take an extra couple of minutes to roll the missus over.
</div>
</blockquote>
 
That in itself is rather fucked up. Everyone knows in order to maximize "dem gains" ya need at least ten hours sleep a night.

barbarian

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="570508" data-time="1460079635">
<div>
He told me a story about Pocock... apparently he used to (unsure if he still does) set his alarm for 2am each night. Get up, do 100 burpees, 100 press ups and 100 squats, eat 2 chicken breasts and then go back to bed.
</div>
</blockquote>
 
Heard something similar - apparently when the Wallabies were on tour in about 2009 the manager got a call at 3am and was told one of his players had accessed an off-limits area and set off the security alarm. Thinking 'oh shit', that someone has been out on the piss or up to shenanigans, he goes downstairs to discover it's Pocock, who has gotten into the hotel gym to pump out a session. At 3am.

SammyC

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="570516" data-time="1460080128">
<div>
That in itself is rather fucked up. Everyone knows in order to maximize "dem gains" ya need at least ten hours sleep a night.
</div>
</blockquote>
 
Steroids decrease recovery time ;)

barbarian

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="broughie" data-cid="570503" data-time="1460079386">
<div>
Do you think his publicity outside of rugby results in bums on seats or increased viewership or just warm fuzzies to those who are of like mindset?
</div>
</blockquote>
 
I think it has resulted in an increase in interest in the Wallabies, yes. Especially from females. 
 
It has given them an entry pass into the game- if they see a player they know on screen, it certainly makes them feel more comfortable watching the game.
 
In terms of tangible ratings, or ticket sales well I'm not so sure. But it certainly can't hurt.

mariner4life

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="barbarian" data-cid="570534" data-time="1460080764">
<div>
I think it has resulted in an increase in interest in the Wallabies, yes. Especially from females. 
 
It has given them an entry pass into the game- if they see a player they know on screen, it certainly makes them feel more comfortable watching the game.
 
In terms of tangible ratings, or ticket sales well I'm not so sure. But it certainly can't hurt.
</div>
</blockquote>
in a crowded aussie market, where rugby has probably dropped to 4th (and might go further with an olympic year and the story of redemption in the pool) any positive publicity has to be good.

MN5

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="barbarian" data-cid="570527" data-time="1460080582">
<div>
Heard something similar - apparently when the Wallabies were on tour in about 2009 the manager got a call at 3am and was told one of his players had accessed an off-limits area and set off the security alarm. Thinking 'oh shit', that someone has been out on the piss or up to shenanigans, he goes downstairs to discover it's Pocock, who has gotten into the hotel gym to pump out a session. At 3am.
</div>
</blockquote>
 
....and despite all that his best lifts aren't particularly exceptional and with all those muscles he can't bust a tackle to save himself.

Hooroo

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="570508" data-time="1460079635">
<div>
I remember meeting James Slipper through a mate of mine when I lived on the gold coast. 
 
Firstly, I'm amazed that Slipper turned out as good as he did (enjoyed his McDonalds, liquor and ciggys when I met him)
 
He told me a story about Pocock... apparently he used to (unsure if he still does) set his alarm for 2am each night. Get up, do 100 burpees, 100 press ups and 100 squats, eat 2 chicken breasts and then go back to bed.
</div>
</blockquote>
 
Wow!! If true it does to show the difference between Talent and Dedication (Or Talent without dedication.... I'm looking at you Fat Tamifuna and Fat Ryder)

SammyC

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="570542" data-time="1460081269">
<div>
....and despite all that his best lifts aren't particularly exceptional and with all those muscles he can't bust a tackle to save himself.
</div>
</blockquote>
 
 
Where did you get his best lift numbers? I'd be interested to see them.

barbarian

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="570547" data-time="1460081537">
<div>
Wow!! If true it does to show the difference between Talent and Dedication (Or Talent without dedication.... I'm looking at you Fat Tamifuna and Fat Ryder)
</div>
</blockquote>
 
Well in the Australian Story episode he said that his 'dedication' destroyed his life, and he developed an eating disorder, fucked him socially etc.
 
He clearly pushed it too far in one direction. It turned him into a great player, though.

MN5

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="570552" data-time="1460081851">
<div>
Where did you get his best lift numbers? I'd be interested to see them.
</div>
</blockquote>
 
Could be wrong but read he benched 170kg, Deadlifted 240kg........looks more of a bodybuilder than powerlifter though......

SammyC

I remember reading that Will Genia benched 180
 
 
...... shame Pocock :)

MajorRage

Lots of parallels with Jonny Wilkinson here isn't there. The myopic, endless pursuit of absolute perfection.
 
It'll never make you the most rounded player, but it will make you the best on the planet at your chose discipline.
 
EDIT - Not to say that both players are not rounded, but there are certain parts of their game which are world leading, whilst others are middle of the pack.

taniwharugby

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="barbarian" data-cid="570554" data-time="1460082049">
<div>
Well in the Australian Story episode he said that his 'dedication' destroyed his life, and he developed an eating disorder, fucked him socially etc.
 
He clearly pushed it too far in one direction. It turned him into a great player, though.
</div>
</blockquote>
 
if its the same one he used to annoy the crap out of his brothers wanting to train endlessly as well, and someone told him his pass to the left wasn't that good, so he wanted to do a thousand left hand passes a day for weeks to get it better??

booboo

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="570464" data-time="1460073253">
quoting before edit.</blockquote>
 
I'm going to leave it there now

mariner4life

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="booboo" data-cid="570566" data-time="1460083216">
<div>
I'm going to leave it there now :)
</div>
</blockquote>
do, it's poetic in it's own way.

Mokey

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="antipodean" data-cid="570514" data-time="1460080076">
<div>
There's no doubt he's driven, nor that he's unbelievable over the ball and only a twat would suggest he doesn't really deeply care about social equality etc. but it's the deification that I find nauseating. He's not the best flanker running around, not by a long shot with the obvious limitations to his game. And people who so carefully craft a public perception raise my internal bullshitometer - you can do all those things without the need to constantly tell me you're doing them. You're not the special snow flake standing against the public tide here.
 
And that I would contend is the issue; the apology is more about protecting his brand.
</div>
</blockquote>
 
Agree with all of this. When it comes to social warriorness, nobody screams LOOK AT MOI like David Pocock. But it's so full of shit. Like the carbon footprint. Especially the marriage ban.
 
I actually feel sorry for Michael Leitch, between the calls and online self flagellating bet he's thinking fuck me days, wish it had been someone other than bad Jesus who strangled me.

The Silver Fern

Brumbies v Chiefs