So anybody relocated a house?
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@snowy the occupancy plan is based on the number of bedrooms (3 b/r would be 5 persons?) as the plan wouldnt be making allowance for a family to have multiples in each room plus using the other living spaces as bedrooms also.
Like most things, based largely on what 'most' people do, not what the outliers do.
I think you can remove internal walls that are not structural too?
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@taniwharugby said in So anybody relocated a house?:
I think you can remove internal walls that are not structural too?
Yes you can. Which makes the "bedroom" thing even more ridiculous.
I'm putting new trussed roofing over the whole place. I can add and remove walls / rooms as I please. Almost none of the internal walls are structural.
I also have a heap of Rimu rafters and beams to find a use for.
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@snowy said in So anybody relocated a house?:
O.K. so an update and I need some advice.
Firstly the advice - how do you make a room not a bedroom? I'm serious.
Anyone that has done any building or dealt with council a lot know how to do this? Not having a bed I thought would suffice, but not according to the council. We have two studies and a "library / TV room" that is apparently turning the house into 6 bedrooms not 3. I suggested that the toilets were also rooms so why not call it 8 bedrooms (ignored the cellar).The reason all of that is important is we have a natural (wormerator) wastewater system and we need a much bigger dispersal field for more "bedrooms". I want it all to be gravity fed and this would be problematic with a 18 bedroom house.
Strangely enough you guys talking about doors and @Virgil may be the answer - if a room doesn't have a door it isn't a bedroom? Is that correct? I'm talking council and building regs.
Anyway as for the house:
It has been removed from original site and is now on a yard waiting to be bought up. Council have not trimmed trees as promised yet to get it up here but we can't get it up here yet anyway as we have had to jump through so many hoops to get the natural pool, fireplace, vergola, etc, etc, etc, spec into the plans.I feel like I should call council in the morning and ask if I am allowed bacon and eggs for breakfast but i know that they would just reply "what sort of bacon and is it certified" or "where did you get the eggs, are you licensed to have chickens?"
Advice on "bedrooms" that aren't, would be welcome.
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/1947/0200/latest/whole.html
From that, bedrooms must be at least 1.8m in length and width, and at least 6m2, and as habitable areas, must have at least 1 external window, with at least 10% of the floor area being windows and 5% being windows that can be opened. Probably the easiest way to meet their requirements would be to remove or paint shut enough windows that a bedroom stops being a habitable room and therefore not a bedroom.
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@godder said in So anybody relocated a house?:
@snowy said in So anybody relocated a house?:
O.K. so an update and I need some advice.
Firstly the advice - how do you make a room not a bedroom? I'm serious.
Anyone that has done any building or dealt with council a lot know how to do this? Not having a bed I thought would suffice, but not according to the council. We have two studies and a "library / TV room" that is apparently turning the house into 6 bedrooms not 3. I suggested that the toilets were also rooms so why not call it 8 bedrooms (ignored the cellar).The reason all of that is important is we have a natural (wormerator) wastewater system and we need a much bigger dispersal field for more "bedrooms". I want it all to be gravity fed and this would be problematic with a 18 bedroom house.
Strangely enough you guys talking about doors and @Virgil may be the answer - if a room doesn't have a door it isn't a bedroom? Is that correct? I'm talking council and building regs.
Anyway as for the house:
It has been removed from original site and is now on a yard waiting to be bought up. Council have not trimmed trees as promised yet to get it up here but we can't get it up here yet anyway as we have had to jump through so many hoops to get the natural pool, fireplace, vergola, etc, etc, etc, spec into the plans.I feel like I should call council in the morning and ask if I am allowed bacon and eggs for breakfast but i know that they would just reply "what sort of bacon and is it certified" or "where did you get the eggs, are you licensed to have chickens?"
Advice on "bedrooms" that aren't, would be welcome.
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/1947/0200/latest/whole.html
From that, bedrooms must be at least 1.8m in length and width, and at least 6m2, and as habitable areas, must have at least 1 external window, with at least 10% of the floor area being windows and 5% being windows that can be opened. Probably the easiest way to meet their requirements would be to remove or paint shut enough windows that a bedroom stops being a habitable room and therefore not a bedroom.
Thats a good call. We have a "window" in our kitchen that has been plastered and painted over on the he inside by the previous owners during a renovation they did. You'd never know it's there, I fact only noticed it when the kids pointed it out after living in the house for 3yrs 🤣
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We have two large offices above the garage that are causing the issue, but I think that I have found a way around it, and got it down to 4 bedrooms. A massive cavity slider that opens up the whole space, which is now called a "gallery" (very fucking grand) instead of two "bedrooms" - which are studies. The engineer and architect reckon it will comply, so fingers crossed.
The wastewater system is designed to take up to 8 bedrooms anyway, but you need a massive dispersal field for that. We have the space but I am trying to keep it all gravity fed (don't want any electric pumps in it at all) so trying to work with the existing contours and keep the field smaller. I could move some earth to accommodate it but, guess what, council restrict earthworks even on a 22 acre block. I don't actually own the land apparently - council do (yes I get that there have to be some restrictions but everything that I am doing is eco friendly, and they still make it difficult).
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@snowy are they just the drip field ones?
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@voodoo he's trying to keep a low profile. Plus local politicians just keep going missing in his region... go figure!!
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@voodoo said in So anybody relocated a house?:
@snowy ever thought about taking up local politics mate?
Yes. Unfortunately council would probably end up like Taiwan:
Most of the people in our area who have actually managed to achieve any sort of property development have either been on council, or had close associations with councilors. Read into that what you will.
The housing crisis is unlikely to end under the current rules.
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@snowy I re-laid all my drip-field hoses 18 months ago...one now instead of runing back and forth across the back section, runs around the perimeter of half my property.
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@paekakboyz said in So anybody relocated a house?:
Plus local politicians just keep going missing in his region... go figure!!
Not yet, but action may need to be taken.
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@taniwharugby said in So anybody relocated a house?:
@snowy I re-laid all my drip-field hoses 18 months ago...one now instead of runing back and forth across the back section, runs around the perimeter of half my property.
Do you have a powered system? Your place is quite flat isn't it?
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@snowy yes and around 10-15 deg slope
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@taniwharugby Hoping to do ours all power free and we have plenty of fall. Should be O.K. if we are 4 bed not 6.
