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  • MN5M Online
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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
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    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    this thread had kind of wrapped up nicely with the win and now you've brought back up something you didn't like from a few days ago?

    He must be a woman

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    i take it im not allowed to say i also miss sail changes and the potential drama associated, dragging a spinnaker for too long and your lead is gone, can't say that because theyre not part of this rule? how about if i dared to say ive seen a lot of chat about wider courses and that sounded interesting too?

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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
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    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    i take it im not allowed to say i also miss sail changes and the potential drama associated, dragging a spinnaker for too long and your lead is gone, can't say that because theyre not part of this rule? how about if i dared to say ive seen a lot of chat about wider courses and that sounded interesting too?

    Spinnaker in the water was replaced by belly in the water. That was pretty damn exciting

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    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    i take it im not allowed to say i also miss sail changes and the potential drama associated, dragging a spinnaker for too long and your lead is gone, can't say that because theyre not part of this rule? how about if i dared to say ive seen a lot of chat about wider courses and that sounded interesting too?

    I would agree with most of that.

    AC is F1 of yachting though and development of the boats is a part of it. Things change with technology. I like these too:
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    For me having sailed - Optis, Ps, Starlings, Lasers, 2 types of Hobies and then keelers (mostly 1020s), watch the type that you like. The spectacles that you seem to prefer are still available.

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  • SnowyS Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
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    Oh. I also miss rucking. That most of all, but I have some VHS tapes of it to reminisce.

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  • SnowyS Offline
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    replied to MN5 on last edited by
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    @mn5 said in Americas Cup:

    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    this thread had kind of wrapped up nicely with the win and now you've brought back up something you didn't like from a few days ago?

    He must be a woman

    I prefer "Polish Chick".

    I also don't see every reply the instant it is posted, nor have the time to reply.

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    replied to Snowy on last edited by
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    @snowy said in Americas Cup:

    Oh. I also miss rucking. That most of all, but I have some VHS tapes of it to reminisce.

    so i take it you go and have a go whenever anyone on here mentioned bring back rucking? im sure i saw it brought up not long ago

    the whole, im a sailor and so my understand and knowledge outweighs what you might find interesting because you'd just a fan, is the elitist BS people complain about

    fuck that, i've watch every AC and a fair chunk of LV/PC races since 95 so i think im allowed to have an opinion

    we dont stop people that have never played rugby from watching and having opinions

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    wrote on last edited by
    #1207

    We do stop people trying to change the rules though.

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    replied to Snowy on last edited by Kiwiwomble
    #1208

    @snowy i never tried to change the rules, never even said they should, just mentioned that the races might be interesting if the rules were different

    and as has been mentioned...the rules for the change every time round

    did you write the rules? is that why you've taken this so personally?

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    wrote on last edited by
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    https://stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/300257383/americas-cup-stricter-crew-nationality-rule-brought-in-foiling-monohulls-confirmed-for-next-challenge

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    Sounds like Ashby would still be ok but if I’m honest I wouldn’t begrudge him if he could be part of an Aussie team

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    @luigi said in Americas Cup:

    Good luck ETNZ.

    How come @Luigi managed a stealth drive by posting and no-one commented?

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    @booboo said in Americas Cup:

    @luigi said in Americas Cup:

    Good luck ETNZ.

    How come @Luigi managed a stealth drive by posting and no-one commented?

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    replied to Snowy on last edited by
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    @snowy said in Americas Cup:

    Dogmeat's post did explain it quite well

    😲

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    wrote on last edited by canefan
    #1214

    https://stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/124651203/americas-cup-deed-of-gift-challenge-too-good-for-team-nz-to-ignore

    Sounds like a no brainer if Ineos is locked into having the AC regatta here in the event that they win

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    @canefan said in Americas Cup:

    Sounds like a no brainer if Ineos is locked into having the AC regatta here in the event that they win

    It sounds good in some ways - certainly be a big event.

    If we did lose though, they are the defender, and get to set all of the class rules, boat design, competition rules, wind limits (can be contentious to some), time limits (was an issue in SFO - cost us the cup), etc. Those are all a big advantage that we give away, which is why it has been so hard to take it away in the past. We would also have to the challenger of record at home next time to mitigate some of that.

    We might well win anyway, but we are gambling quite a bit. Sounds like a chance for the Brits to finally get their hands on it again and get the monkey of their back. Can't blame them for that.

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    I thought the whole point of spending taxpayer money on this was we get to host a massive international event with huge exposure in Auckland. If they take it offshore I'll be pissed.

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  • WairauW Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
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    Who cares if it's only held once every 4 years and only 3 challengers come? It's a historic cup that we've worked hard to get and keep. It should be held only in NZ, as long as we can retain it-8, 12, 20, 40 years.
    And the first order of business should be changing the deed to introduce a nationality clause.

    If we lose it to INEO for a silly gamble, guaranteed the Royal Yacht Club will find some way to shaft us and hold the next cup in England. We should not be fools.

    Instead, I'd like to see exhibitions held by TNZ and others around harbour and around the islands off Auckland.

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    replied to TeWaio on last edited by
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    @tewaio said in Americas Cup:

    I thought the whole point of spending taxpayer money on this was we get to host a massive international event with huge exposure in Auckland. If they take it offshore I'll be pissed.

    But if there is a guarantee the next even will be back in auckland but after a bit event that might raise more interest/challengers?

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    replied to Snowy on last edited by
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    @snowy said in Americas Cup:

    @canefan said in Americas Cup:

    Sounds like a no brainer if Ineos is locked into having the AC regatta here in the event that they win

    It sounds good in some ways - certainly be a big event.

    If we did lose though, they are the defender, and get to set all of the class rules, boat design, competition rules, wind limits (can be contentious to some), time limits (was an issue in SFO - cost us the cup), etc. Those are all a big advantage that we give away, which is why it has been so hard to take it away in the past. We would also have to the challenger of record at home next time to mitigate some of that.

    We might well win anyway, but we are gambling quite a bit. Sounds like a chance for the Brits to finally get their hands on it again and get the monkey of their back. Can't blame them for that.

    Aren’t the rules and stuff agreed between the defender and CoR? Not just set by the defender?

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