Australia v India
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@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
@Chris-B instead we got Matt Sinclair
Can't be denied he started with a hiss and a roar, two double tons in fuck all tests if I remember rightly ?
That era of Australian Cricket was pretty freakish though, From memory Matthew Hayden only got a chance after Tubby Taylor retired ? he had to wait in the wings for quite some time while Tubs and Slats were doing their thing and then obviously eclipsed them and became one of the greatest openers of all time.
I remember reading an article on the two "young guns" who were knocking on the door, Ricky Ponting and Michael Di Venuto. Obviously one of these guys went on to have a slightly better career than the other.
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@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
@MN5 Yeah it was a weird career for Sinclair - he got 3 huge scores (2 double tons and a 150) and basically bugger all else. After scoring a double ton on debut he then played 3 tests against Australia where his highest score was 24....
Indeed, he'll be judged historically as yet another Black Caps also ran to be honest.
Back to Australia anyone remember Stuart Law ? when I watched more cricket back in the day he was talked about, 27,080 first class runs at 51.03 and got 54 not out in his only test innings.
Fucken hard to get past Border, Boon and the Waughs on a regular basis I guess.
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@Chris-B said in Australia v India:
@MN5 Didn't realise his average was so good! I see he got 100 hundreds in all forms of state/provincial cricket.
Debuted in the same match as Ricky Ponting ( who got 96 ). Tubby Taylor got this too, Mark Waugh got 111 and Slats got 219. Needless to say they hammered Sri Lanka by an innings.
I think that single test illustrates why a guy as good as Law never played another test. Once Steve Waugh was fit again he had no chance.
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Amazing win by India. To pick the team they did and win at the Gabba? Truly remarkable. I have genuinely never seen anything like it in my time as an Aussie cricket supporter.
We've lost home series before, but it's been to genuinely great sides: South Africa with prime
Franz BothaDale Steyn, England with Cook, KP, Broad, Swann et al.This side doesn't have the names, but man they have ticker.
It's hard as an Aussie fan, as there isn't a glaring scapegoat or error made by anyone. We were just beaten. Sure, Mitch Starc tired badly, Nathan Lyon couldn't find anything when we needed him, too many batsmen made a start and then threw their wicket away.
But there's a very real chance our next test XI will be very close to this one. Pucovski will come in for Harris, and maybe Wade will go IF someone can make Shield runs to displace him. But that's not certain.
They will have to reasses how they play Starc as well. On his day he is world leading. I remember he was imperious in Adelaide, but a broken man by Brisbane. This series is hard to assess on that front, though, with it's bubbles and squads and condensed format without breaks.
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@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
@Chris-B instead we got Matt Sinclair
To be serious. We actually got Aaron Redmond and Tama Canning.
As Aussie cricketers from that generation with Kiwi parents who moved to NZ to play.
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@Rapido said in Australia v India:
@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
@Chris-B instead we got Matt Sinclair
To be serious. We actually got Aaron Redmond and Tama Canning.
As Aussie cricketers from that generation with Kiwi parents who moved to NZ to play.
Two guys in the finest New Zealand tradition of World Class openers and all rounders.
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@barbarian felt like there were more dropped catches than I'd generally expect of your guys in this series. But I guess that was balanced out by India dropping their share.
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@Paekakboyz said in Australia v India:
@barbarian felt like there were more dropped catches than I'd generally expect of your guys in this series. But I guess that was balanced out by India dropping their share.
I can't remember any clangers, besides Paine on Day 5 in Sydney. Whereas Marnus was dropped about 12 times.
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@barbarian said in Australia v India:
@Paekakboyz said in Australia v India:
@barbarian felt like there were more dropped catches than I'd generally expect of your guys in this series. But I guess that was balanced out by India dropping their share.
I can't remember any clangers, besides Paine on Day 5 in Sydney. Whereas Marnus was dropped about 12 times.
Australia were terrible in the field in melbourne.
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@Rapido said in Australia v India:
@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
@Chris-B instead we got Matt Sinclair
To be serious. We actually got Aaron Redmond and Tama Canning.
As Aussie cricketers from that generation with Kiwi parents who moved to NZ to play.
Lou Vincent and Piggy were good pick ups though.
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@rotated said in Australia v India:
@Rapido said in Australia v India:
@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
@Chris-B instead we got Matt Sinclair
To be serious. We actually got Aaron Redmond and Tama Canning.
As Aussie cricketers from that generation with Kiwi parents who moved to NZ to play.
Lou Vincent and Piggy were good pick ups though.
Styris, like Sinclair was just Australian born but NZ raised. Not a pick up.
Vincent, I actually don't know about. I see he played for NZ U19s, which is his first records of any type in the cricket archive, if he was in Australia playing high level cricket he didn't play for any Australian state youth teams, 2nd XIs or academies that were worthy of being recorded. (he is NZ born)
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Of the genuine pick-ups:
Ronchi was of the era, in discussion. But his re-migration to NZ was a good 5 years after the peak Aussie era had finished.So, a good pickup, But at a time of strength rather than the desperation of 5 years earlier.
Canning and Redmond were both Perth born and WA youth level players who went straight into the NZ academy in 1999. Unfortunately Canning was exactly in the mould of players we had an abundance of (Medium pace dobbler and aggressive batting allrounder). Redmond was a good pickup in that he was a leg-spinning all rounder, something we didn't produce. Transferred in time to batsman and opener, didn't nail international cricket, but 16 odd years of FC cricket contribution to NZ.
Dean Brownlie also a good pickup.
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@Rapido said in Australia v India:
Vincent, I actually don't know about. I see he played for NZ U19s, which is his first records of any type in the cricket archive, if he was in Australia playing high level cricket he didn't play for any Australian state youth teams, 2nd XIs or academies that were worthy of being recorded. (he is NZ born)
He definitely finished high school in Australia and played or at least was picked in a squad with SA Under 18/19s or whatever it would have been at the time before he went back to Auckland.
source: yarning to Vincent himself during a tour match in the mid 00s.
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@barbarian The problem with Starc is he is two different bowlers depending on whether it's a day/night pink ball test or not.
In a day/night pink ball test his record is amazing. His recent record in non-pink ball tests? Not that great.
