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    @Paekakboyz said in Planes:

    This is why you make it expensive!

    They're quite cheap!

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    @Machpants like a home printer? low up front cost - big consumable charge πŸ™‚ although don't they repurpose ex tank material or something for the ammo?

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    @Paekakboyz said in Planes:

    @Machpants like a home printer? low up front cost - big consumable charge πŸ™‚ although don't they repurpose ex tank material or something for the ammo?

    Ammo was depleted uranium, same as tank ammo (APFSDS), I'm not sure if that's been phased out though. Still a fuck load cheaper than a modern anti armour missile, even thousands of rounds. But they are cheap as fuck, simple as, they could crank out a dozen or more for the cost of a F22, maybe even an F35. Hard to compare costs across the ages, but they'd be dirt cheap compared to space age fighters.

    The real impressive jet is the B52, it's going to do over a century in service

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    @Machpants said in Planes:

    You'd never slow down and land and try to hide, if you've got the time to do that you've got away anyway.

    I was taking the piss with that comment, and yes B52s are awesome (and certainly value for money now).

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    Here's a short 60 second look at the world's last Avro Vulcan V-Bomber to be airworthy in the world.

    It's seen here during a flyover at the Little Gransden Air & Car Show in 2014. The aircraft has now been permanently retired.

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    This is what a Super Hornet looks like when the pilot and weapons officer don't want to take off

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    @antipodean said in Planes:

    when the pilot and weapons officer don't want to take off

    Worked with heaps of them - known as "seagulls".

    You had to throw rocks at them to make them fly.

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    @Snowy said in Planes:

    Here's a short 60 second look at the world's last Avro Vulcan V-Bomber to be airworthy in the world.

    It's seen here during a flyover at the Little Gransden Air & Car Show in 2014. The aircraft has now been permanently retired.

    One visited NZ from the RAF and undershot the runway at Wellington and had to crash land at Ohakea. Late 50s, early 60s?

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    @Crucial said in Planes:

    One visited NZ from the RAF and undershot the runway at Wellington and had to crash land at Ohakea. Late 50s, early 60s?

    Yep. Was the opening of the airport so they had an airshow (the vulcan certainly did put on a show there's a doco about it). Welly airport was opened in 1959 and I wish they hadn't. It was windshear and turbulence that got them which I'm sure most ferners have experienced. It made for an intersting coulple of years for me though.

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    @Crucial said in Planes:

    @Snowy said in Planes:

    Here's a short 60 second look at the world's last Avro Vulcan V-Bomber to be airworthy in the world.

    It's seen here during a flyover at the Little Gransden Air & Car Show in 2014. The aircraft has now been permanently retired.

    One visited NZ from the RAF and undershot the runway at Wellington and had to crash land at Ohakea. Late 50s, early 60s?

    Same group

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    @Machpants That's the doco I had seen with the Vulcan (8:40) in. Sums up the place nicely.

    The Qantas guys used to get rostered Welly for line checks. Known as the hell duty.

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    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/lightning-speed-and-agility-germanys-ar-234-blitz-jet-bomber-was-success-ultimately-failed-180976581/

    I was not aware of a WW2 jet bomber

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    @canefan said in Planes:

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/lightning-speed-and-agility-germanys-ar-234-blitz-jet-bomber-was-success-ultimately-failed-180976581/

    I was not aware of a WW2 jet bomber

    Me neither, very cool

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    @Machpants I can’t read Luftwaffe without thinking of this...

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    RAAF Richmond here in NW Sydney is about 16 klicks NW from my house, so occasionally you get a few flyovers from various aircraft. Mostly Hercs - both ours and other forces (they host training for other nations) - which you can hear coming.

    In more recent years the C-17 Globemasters have been visiting along with the C-27 Spartan training rotations.

    The Globemaster is almost completely fucking silent until it is right over your house, then it gets seriously loud. Useful in a hot LZ I'd imagine.

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    @canefan said in Planes:

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/lightning-speed-and-agility-germanys-ar-234-blitz-jet-bomber-was-success-ultimately-failed-180976581/

    I was not aware of a WW2 jet bomber

    Crazy Germans had all sorts. Me262 was probably the best known of the late-stage attempts to rescue the war, but for pure insanity the Me163 Komet Rocket plane has to win.

    Messerschmitt Me 163 Komet - Wikipedia

    Messerschmitt Me 163 Komet - Wikipedia

    Aside from combat losses, many pilots were killed during testing and training,[4] at least in part due to the highly volatile and corrosive nature of the rocket propellant used in later models of the aircraft.[5] This includes one pilot by the name of Oberleutnant Josef Pohs, who was dissolved by the rocket fuel following an incident that resulted in a ruptured fuel line

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    @NTA Yeah knew about the Komet and the 262. Those bastards knew how to build shit alright

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    @canefan said in Planes:

    @NTA Yeah knew about the Komet and the 262. Those bastards knew how to build shit alright

    They still do.
    Miele, Bosche, to Audi, Porsche, Mercedes, etc. Just good, built to last, engineering.

    My wee plane is German designed and seriously good. Outperforms anything else around, beautifully built too. They should just should cease and desist with the war thing (TBF they seem to be getting better with that).

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    @Snowy said in Planes:

    @canefan said in Planes:

    @NTA Yeah knew about the Komet and the 262. Those bastards knew how to build shit alright

    They still do.
    Miele, Bosche, to Audi, Porsche, Mercedes, etc. Just good, built to last, engineering.

    Falke. Best socks I've ever bought, and I went through a phase of trying out a few pricey ones.

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    @Kruse said in Planes:

    @Snowy said in Planes:

    @canefan said in Planes:

    @NTA Yeah knew about the Komet and the 262. Those bastards knew how to build shit alright

    They still do.
    Miele, Bosche, to Audi, Porsche, Mercedes, etc. Just good, built to last, engineering.

    Falke. Best socks I've ever bought, and I went through a phase of trying out a few pricey ones.

    My bad. Forgot about socks.

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