Future of The Rugby Championship
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@nostrildamus said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@Rapido said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
was it a success?
My clairvoyance was. I said before it started that Foster's coaching isn't up to very much but Rennie should be competitive. And I don't even follow the Chiefs that much.
Wow really?
Not sure if you've advanced your opinion on Foster previously.
Tell us more.
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@booboo said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@Rapido said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
was it a success?
Crowds were aweso... oh
They didn't even sell out venues to half full. Stupid idea, as unlike the 6 Nations you get fuck all traveling fans and a much lower engaged in rugby population
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With the way the matches and tournament played out surely it’s future is healthier than ever.
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@booboo said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@nostrildamus said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@Rapido said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
was it a success?
My clairvoyance was. I said before it started that Foster's coaching isn't up to very much but Rennie should be competitive. And I don't even follow the Chiefs that much.
Wow really?
Not sure if you've advanced your opinion on Foster previously.
Tell us more.
The problem with sarcasm is when it explicitly contains permission to rant further.
And I'd hate to disappoint. So, writing my short War and Peace Summary NOW.
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@Machpants said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@booboo said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@Rapido said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
was it a success?
Crowds were aweso... oh
They didn't even sell out venues to half full. Stupid idea, as unlike the 6 Nations you get fuck all traveling fans and a much lower engaged in rugby population
in fairness its hard to talking about travelling fans given the whole COVID thing
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@Kiwiwomble said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@Machpants said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@booboo said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@Rapido said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
was it a success?
Crowds were aweso... oh
They didn't even sell out venues to half full. Stupid idea, as unlike the 6 Nations you get fuck all traveling fans and a much lower engaged in rugby population
in fairness its hard to talking about travelling fans given the whole COVID thing
But I'm talking beyond that, very few travel for the RC with distances involved. It's not like popping around Europe
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I know matchpants read it and cleared up what the actual article said. Basically the adminsitrator was saying - 'if world still in disaster next year, can do this again .... ' (paraphrased).
As for future TRCs. This format was awful IMO. But it did a job.
Would hope they can add a team or two, so that the competition is one match only v each opponent, not home and away. Save travel, save costs, improve unpredictability.
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If want to do a one-nation tournament. Then could do a Southern Hemisphere Championship, once every 4 years. 4 current SANZAAR teams plus 3 PIs, plus Uruguay. 2 groups of 4, then a finals weekend (like the Autumn Nations Cup just been).
While a tournament with a final would be good practice for NZ (and all others). It won't help us practice our way past our 1/4 peak, semi-final flop syndrome.
Other tournament I have suggested on here before is Pan-Pacific Championship. NZ + Aus, Japan, 3 PIs, USA & Canada. Again 2 groups of 4 plus a finals weekend. I suggested this as a way for NZ to venture into Japanese TV money (and future USA potential) without wrecking TRC. Played in November window once every 4 years instead of touring. Because of timezones, this one doesn't need to be single country host. Although Tonga's inability to host any home matches means it would probably be the best format for the forseeable future.
I suggested this as I liked the geographic integrity of TRC being pseudo Southern Hemisphere championship. So wasn't keen on adding Japan.
But adding Japan to current TRC is probably the easiest hanging fruit.
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@canefan said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@Rapido could be the mid year between RWCs, like the Euro football champs
Lions tour?
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@mariner4life said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@canefan said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@Rapido could be the mid year between RWCs, like the Euro football champs
Lions tour?
Pan-Pacifics would work in that window.
Not the Southern Hemisphere Championship, though, obviously, as 1 of them will be hosting the Lions. -
as i mentioned in the Japan in Super rugby thread, i enjoyed watching them play on the weekend, they were creative and tried a variety of approaches throughout the game and made good yards at times, would love to see them play against Argentina or Aussie to get a better gauge
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@canefan I doubt very much that Scotland or Italy would want to see any change to the 6 Nations status quo, least of all promotion and relegation.
The 6 Nations is already financially lucrative for England and Wales, although both unions have expressed some support to closer links to Japan. Who wouldn't want the world third largest economy as part of their tournament?
If there is support for South Africa joining the Six Nations, then it is from Ireland and France. More games against the Boks would undoubtedly increase their revenues.
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@sparky said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@canefan I doubt very much that Scotland or Italy would want to see any change to the 6 Nations status quo, least of all promotion or relegation.
The 6 Nations is already financially lucrative for England and Wales, although both unions have expressed some support to closer links to Japan. Who wouldn't want the world third largest economy as part of their tournament?
If there is support for South Africa joining the Six Nations, then it is from Ireland and France. More games against the Boks would undoubtedly increase their revenues.
Don’t lump the mighty Scots in with those Spagetti eating losers. THREE Scots are in the Lions starting line up this weekend !
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@sparky said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@mn5 Indeed and Scotland finished above England in this year's Six Nations!
In terms of voting, Scotland has historically been a conservative and well run union, I can't see much appetite for change from them.
…….and Italy are in the midst of a 30 game losing streak having not won since 2015 against Scotland.
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@mn5 Italy's presence in the 6 Nations make less and less sporting sense.
But I suspect most England, Welsh, Scots, Irish and French fans would prefer the thought of a boozy weekend in Rome to one in Tbilisi or the cost of stumping up a trip to Tokyo or Johannesburg every other year.
Only way I could see the Springboks entry to the 6 Nations working at all would be if they based themselves in Amsterdam or Manchester for the tournament's duration.
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