Americas Cup
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I am actually looking forward to this Americas cup.
These boats are pretty spectacular looking and I have got over the gecko on a hot stone look of these and they move out!
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boats are supposed to go in the water.
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@mariner4life said in Americas Cup:
boats are supposed to go in the water.
No one's interested in your hollowed out tree trunk canoe racing series. The rest of us want speed.
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I was going to see if there was an existing AC thread
big fan, cant wait, wish there were more challenges, a little worried if we win that even fewer challengers will want come down to NZ
If Ben Ainsle wins I know it will be an huge event on the isle of Wight
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@Kruse it's all Black magic!!
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@taniwharugby I see what you did there
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@Snowy said in Americas Cup:
@Kruse said in Americas Cup:
But how the fuck does a sailing boat go faster than the wind which is propelling it?
Apparent wind.
The boat is generating its own wind by moving. Freaky concept ay?
That's bullshit. Any "apparent wind" being created by the boat moving, is in the wrong goddamn direction.
I don't like it. Witchcraft has no place in sport. -
I will ABSOLUTELY watch the thing, every race we compete in. And I dont mind most of the advancements and boat improvents. What I don't love is when 1 boat is just ridiculously more advanced than the rest and its no longer F1, its like putting a Mercedes F1 car in a Saturday morning cart race.
Whilst I appreciate and really like having a significant design element to competing, I do want to some level of sailing skill retained.
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@voodoo said in Americas Cup:
I will ABSOLUTELY watch the thing, every race we compete in. And I dont mind most of the advancements and boat improvents. What I don't love is when 1 boat is just ridiculously more advanced than the rest and its no longer F1, its like putting a Mercedes F1 car in a Saturday morning cart race.
Whilst I appreciate and really like having a significant design element to competing, I do want to some level of sailing skill retained.
You have the olympics for that!
This is the money men races.
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@Kruse said in Americas Cup:
@Snowy said in Americas Cup:
@Kruse said in Americas Cup:
But how the fuck does a sailing boat go faster than the wind which is propelling it?
Apparent wind.
The boat is generating its own wind by moving. Freaky concept ay?
That's bullshit. Any "apparent wind" being created by the boat moving, is in the wrong goddamn direction.
I don't like it. Witchcraft has no place in sport.Some people call it "science" or even "mathematics" (but it is fucking weird) and is definitely not in the wrong direction. Going forward is what generates "lift" except it is horizontal from the wing. Planes don't fly without airspeed either and that is really witchcraft as well getting hundreds of tonnes into the air. I know that you are taking the piss but it is pretty amazing tech.
You are correct in one sense though, if a boat is sailing directly downwind it can only achieve the speed of the wind. Does that make you feel better?
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@Snowy said in Americas Cup:
@Kruse said in Americas Cup:
@Snowy said in Americas Cup:
@Kruse said in Americas Cup:
But how the fuck does a sailing boat go faster than the wind which is propelling it?
Apparent wind.
The boat is generating its own wind by moving. Freaky concept ay?
That's bullshit. Any "apparent wind" being created by the boat moving, is in the wrong goddamn direction.
I don't like it. Witchcraft has no place in sport.Some people call it "science" or even "mathematics" (but it is fucking weird) and is definitely not in the wrong direction. Going forward is what generates "lift" except it is horizontal from the wing. Planes don't fly without airspeed either and that is really witchcraft as well getting hundreds of tonnes into the air. I know that you are taking the piss but it is pretty amazing tech.
You are correct in one sense though, if a boat is sailing directly downwind it can only achieve the speed of the wind. Does that make you feel better?
Whatever you do, @Kruse don't look into quantum level science!
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@Snowy said in Americas Cup:
You are correct in one sense though, if a boat is sailing directly downwind it can only achieve the speed of the wind. Does that make you feel better?
Sailing, yes.
On land, however, downwind faster than the wind is a 'thing'
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@voodoo said in Americas Cup:
What I don't love is when 1 boat is just ridiculously more advanced than the rest and its no longer F1, its like putting a Mercedes F1 car in a Saturday morning cart race.
Whilst I appreciate and really like having a significant design element to competing, I do want to some level of sailing skill retained.Which makes it eactly like F1. There is nearly always one team that is faster than the others, it's more like Mercedes versing Haas. Driver skills have to be there, but as they say with the yachting, the fastest boat will win and you still need good sailors, but the boat wins just like the car in F1. If the crew / driver make an error that screws it up but they both have many races to counter that.
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@nzzp said in Americas Cup:
@Snowy said in Americas Cup:
You are correct in one sense though, if a boat is sailing directly downwind it can only achieve the speed of the wind. Does that make you feel better?
Sailing, yes.
On land, however, downwind faster than the wind is a 'thing'
Nice one, but it is rotor powered, which changes things a bit.
Who knows, we might have Americas cup boats foiling with rotor power next time around. @Kruse will move to Salem and start hanging people.
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@voodoo said in Americas Cup:
What I don't love is when 1 boat is just ridiculously more advanced than the rest and its no longer F1, its like putting a Mercedes F1 car in a Saturday morning cart race.
Like any sport. Thing is despite all the hype emerging around TNZ's new boat I don't think anyone has a handle on who may have the best boat. Also reckon with the way these absolute beasts are sailed there is no margin for error and so sailing ability will have a great deal to do with the result.
Glad PoA relented so we can see racing on the inner harbour. Should be spectacular.
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