Chiefs v Jaguares
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<p>Quick citing sweepstake on Sam's ban/verdict</p>
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<p>Can we agree that Sam actually started at about chest (upper chest if you like) and the guy slipped or ducked and unfortunately copped it "high"? No real malice involved?</p>
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<p>Ok I'll put in the first outlier: Commission decides all accidental no case to answer for (oi, stop giggling, it might happen)</p>
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<p>Any other predictions/ number of weeks?</p>
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<p>Don't refs usually award a penalty but skip the card for those kinda incidents? Like when that Saffa slipped into Messam's tackle a couple years ago?</p>
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<p>Who the fuck knows what SANZAAR will do though. May as well decide it by coin toss.</p>
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<p>gt12, I think ALB was good enough to deserve the starting spot next week. Otherwise I'm fine with them rotating.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="566080" data-time="1458453388"><p>Fences are standard for all football grounds in South America. I was surprised there weren't more at this stadium like River Plate stadium.</p></blockquote>
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Agree with most of what you said except this gt12, I a bit of a fan of ALB, think he maybe a bit special in a few years.<br>
Think Cane will get a couple of weeks for being careless! But geez he had a big game.</p></blockquote>
I think he might be special too, but he hasn't been that special yet. Sometimes he looks a bit Regan King, hopefully without the injuries.<br><br>
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<p>That was a good game to watch. ALB has always looked pretty good in the Chiefs to me to be honest if a little raw at times.</p>
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<p>Ngatai must be inching a step closer each week to the 12 test jumper? He's just nice and solid out there and will cart it up if need be.</p>
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<p>The Chiefs seem to enjoy playing loosies at look, it's almost like they need to select two extra locks in the squad.</p>
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<p>Ben T is a big loss (compounded of course by Laulala's injury). Dave should have asked Hansen to select the big fella one time last year to keep him in the country.</p>
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<p>The Jaguares are a breath of fresh air and hopefully they can put in good week in and week out performances.</p>
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<p>Tony Johnson was obviously shrilling for Matt Todd during the commentary with the way he was wahing on about Cane. Worse than it looked, it would only be a penalty on field if for a tackle and as someone noted above the bigger issue was that he came in from the side.</p>
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<p><strong>The Jaguares' travel schedule is way worse than that of the Chiefs. Only thing that favoured them was the bye last week.</strong></p>
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<p>It will be interesting to hear whether Sam Cane is going to be cited for that high tackle that knocked out that Jaguares player. IMO he deserved at least a yellow card and not getting one may have influenced the final result of the game.</p>
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<p>At this point of the competition, i.e for this match, the Chiefs schedule is way worse than the Jaguares. They did bloody well considering.</p>
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If cane gets any ban then will Sam henwood be next in line? <br><br><br>
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<p>Any news on Bardoul's injury?</p>
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<p>Broken thumb, likely needing surgery. </p>
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<p>Will certainly be getting the loosie situation in more of a muddle. Especially with the need for cover at lock.</p>
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<p>Could play Vaipulu at 7 (as he does sometimes for CM) but if Bardoul is also injured and out then Henwood could, as you say, be next in line.</p> -
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<p>If cane gets any ban then will Sam henwood be next in line?<br><br><br>
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<p>he might have needed more than just sam cane out as leitch could play 7. but with seu at lock he should get a shot</p> -
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<p>If cane gets any ban then will Sam henwood be next in line?</p>
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<p>Kolomatangi is also in the squad. As Crucial says I think they'll use Vaipulu and have Kolomatangi/Henwood on the bench. </p> -
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<p>Broken thumb, likely needing surgery. </p>
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<p>So Seu would have to move into lock and another lock drafted in from a WTG.</p>
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<p>James Tucker is still around, isn't he?</p> -
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<p>James Tucker is still around, isn't he?</p>
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<p>Should be.</p>
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<p>Is Koloamatangi fit? Last I heard, he was injured. Again. Seems to me like this season might be his last at the Chiefs, as he's been in the squad for three years but it feels like he's been injury free for maybe half a season total.</p> -
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<p>James Tucker is still around, isn't he?</p>
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<p>Yes. Bird is still 2-3 weeks away from being available for selection and BBBR appears to be week-to-week with his rib injury. With Bardoul now likely to be out for a while I would think the Chiefs would be able to bring another player into the squad as a temporary replacement.</p> -
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<p>At this point of the competition, i.e for this match, the Chiefs schedule is way worse than the Jaguares. They did bloody well considering.</p>
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<p>You seem to be on an anti Chiefs lean here - don't forget Allardice and Horrell still play for them. ;)</p>
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<p>The Chiefs schedule is not <em>way </em>worse than the Jaguares at this point of the competition. The Chiefs have travelled, from NZ, for a game in SA and then travelled further to Buenos Aires.</p>
<p>The Jaguares have also travelled, from Buenos Aires, to SA for two games, and then had to travel back to BA. I already mentioned that they had the advantage of the bye last week.</p>
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<p>I just don't buy the "poor and far travelled Chiefs" comment. That doesn't make me anti-Chiefs; I reckon you're a bit over-sensitive as it comes to comments regarding your fav Super Rugby team? I'd make the same comment with respect to any Super Rugby team in this situation btw.</p> -
<p>The Rebels have had it far worse than anybody so far.</p>
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<p>The Rebels have had it far worse than anybody so far.</p>
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<p>Or the Lions, starting with a game in Japan, followed by two in NZ.</p> -
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<p>The Chiefs schedule is not <em>way </em>worse than the Jaguares at this point of the competition. The Chiefs have travelled, from NZ, for a game in SA and then travelled further to Buenos Aires.</p>
<p><strong>The Jaguares have also travelled, from Buenos Aires, to SA for two games</strong>, and then had to travel back to BA. I already mentioned that they had the advantage of the bye last week.</p>
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<p>I just don't buy the "poor and far travelled Chiefs" comment. That doesn't make me anti-Chiefs; I reckon you're a bit over-sensitive as it comes to comments regarding your fav Super Rugby team? I'd make the same comment with respect to any Super Rugby team in this situation btw.</p>
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<p>Except for the part where they didn't do that, right? They travelled over to SA, played <strong>four</strong> games in SA (two pre-season games and the first two rounds), travelled back to Buenos Aires and then got a bye to recover. Overall their schedule is harder than the Chiefs but so far? No way.</p>
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<p>No idea why anyone would try to downplay how difficult a tour was that took the Chiefs basically on a round trip of the planet in four weeks (NZ -> SA -> Arg -> NZ). Coming away from it with 9 points is huge.</p> -
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<p>Seems like something you can do away with for rugby games. More wondering if it's really needed for an Argentinian rugby crowd.</p>
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<p>All the stadiums there are used primarily for football so rugby has little choice unless they build their own. The crowds at the local football games can be feral so the fences are needed.</p>