Chiefs v Jaguares

Bovidae

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="566012" data-time="1458434673">
<div>9 points from that hell trip with such an injury list is very welcome.</div>
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Yep, we have to be happy with that. I thought if the Chiefs went 2-2 in these first 4 games it would be a pass mark. 3-1 is a good return considering the Lions upset.
 
The Chiefs have scored at least 4 tries in every game so far so have no problem scoring points. Handling errors and errant passes meant a few other tries were squandered in this game.
 
The scrum remains a big work-on, but if they can just provide a platform for the backs on their own feed they can survive until Retallick and Bird returns.
 
ALB played really well so I'd stick with him at centre and Ngatai at 2nd 5.

Milk

I've never understood why ALB kept getting contracts, but I can see what some of the fuss was about now. He seems to have bulked up a bit too.

Unco

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Milk" data-cid="566019" data-time="1458437267">
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I've never understood why ALB kept getting contracts, but I can see what some of the fuss was about now. He seems to have bulked up a bit too.
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What's hard to understand? He was one of Wayne Smith's project players and was only 18 when he first made the WTG, so of course he was going to bulk up. I'm pretty sure they weren't intending on playing him in his first season or two anyway, they just wanted to bring him into the environment (which was probably their plan for Moli this year).
 
The promising thing about his performance today was that Tamanivalu hasn't put too many feet wrong either and did well in his cameo off the bench too. Midfield suddenly doesn't feel like much of a weakness anymore. The biggest problem areas are the front row and getting BBBR and Bird back.

Stargazer

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="wildman" data-cid="565965" data-time="1458426617">
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The Jaguares need to beat what is a poor and far travelled Chiefs team at home to prove they really are a competition threat 
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The Jaguares' travel schedule is way worse than that of the Chiefs. Only thing that favoured them was the bye last week.
 
It will be interesting to hear whether Sam Cane is going to be cited for that high tackle that knocked out that Jaguares player. IMO he deserved at least a yellow card and not getting one may have influenced the final result of the game.

taniwharugby

some pretty awesome tries in that match, it'd have been easy for the Jaguares to revert to the Argie forward dominated game, however like the Pumas more recently, they really are speeding up thier game and playing some attractive footy, hopefully they maintain thier traditional strength up front too.
 
In an ideal world, we'll have another Argie team in the comp (instead of the Kings) which will help to reduce thier travel which is gonna be a huge factor for them and the Pumas come TRC time.
 
Didnt think the Chiefs would get the job done with the pack they named to start, but they are looking pretty good, and ruined both my multi's for the weekend!

Crash

Bugger! Not able to watch .....And I recorded the ratshit Blues game instead of this one!

African Monkey

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crash" data-cid="566034" data-time="1458442163">
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Bugger! Not able to watch .....And I recorded the ratshit Blues game instead of this one!
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Smart move :mocking:

Crucial

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="566030" data-time="1458441524">The Jaguares' travel schedule is way worse than that of the Chiefs. Only thing that favoured them was the bye last week. 
It will be interesting to hear whether Sam Cane is going to be cited for that high tackle that knocked out that Jaguares player. IMO he deserved at least a yellow card and not getting one may have influenced the final result of the game.</blockquote>
 
Just an accident unless he was meant to anticipate the players head dropping to where his chest was a split second before. 
Slomo makes it look like he had lots of time to realise but he didn't

SammyC

Shit cane put in some huge hits on defence. He was my player of the day

Stargazer

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="566045" data-time="1458446810">
Just an accident unless he was meant to anticipate the players head dropping to where his chest was a split second before. 
Slomo makes it look like he had lots of time to realise but he didn't
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Sam Cane has been cited: 

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Chiefs' Sam Cane cited for dangerous tackle 
 A dangerous tackle by Chiefs' co-captain Sam Cane on Jaguares' prop Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro has been picked up by the SANZAAR judiciary and could result in a ban for the young flanker. 
 The incident came in the 64th minute when Cane made contact with Chaparro's head. 
 Chaparro was then stretchered off the field as the Chiefs' moved on to claim a 30-24 victory over the Jaguares in Buenos Aires. 
 Cane is alleged to have been in breach of Law 10.4 where SANZAAR states that a player "must not tackle (or try to tackle) an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders." 
 The Citing Commissioner deemed that Cane's tackle met the red card threshold for foul play.
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Siam

Quick citing sweepstake on Sam's ban/verdict
 
Can we agree that Sam actually started at about chest (upper chest if you like) and the guy slipped or ducked and unfortunately copped it "high"? No real malice involved?
 
Ok I'll put in the first outlier: Commission decides all accidental no case to answer for (oi, stop giggling, it might happen)
 
 
Any other predictions/ number of weeks?

bbarcs

Cane will get a week. No common sense in rugby. 
Anyone been to a game in Argie? Is the fencing really a necessity for rugby crowds?

Siam

Sorry, just saw this impossibility: "even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders."
 
Go for the waist, bloke trips up on his own feet and you're red carded - nice work law makers
 
 
Still, opens the way for dwarf All Blacks. 3 touches of the ball and the opposition is down to 12 as little Tyrion runs around bending forward 2 feet off the ground :)

gt12

Just watched it on replay. I'm really impressed, and have learned my lesson for not tipping them :) 
Although I'm sure they didn't want to expose him, Moli looks at home at this level, unlike others. The single worst decision I can remember from the Chiefs coaches is taking Yamashita. I have no idea why they did that. 
Bloody fun game to watch. Midfield was good, although I didn't think that ALB was thaaaat good that he should keep Taimanivalu out. Still, as mentioned above, he's looking more at home at this level, and it isn't a weak area for us. 
I'm happy to be 3-1 as it was my hope after 4 games, but also pissed that we didn't put the Lions away.

Bovidae

I think Cane was most guilty of entering that ruck from the side. Was the citing commissioner an Argie?
 
He'll probably get 1 week but who the fuck knows with SANZAR.

Bovidae

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="bbarcs" data-cid="566070" data-time="1458451444">
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Anyone been to a game in Argie? Is the fencing really a necessity for rugby crowds?
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Fences are standard for all football grounds in South America. I was surprised there weren't more at this stadium like River Plate stadium.

Dan54

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-time="1458451746" data-cid="566073" data-author="gt12">Just watched it on replay. I'm really impressed, and have learned my lesson for not tipping them :) Bloody fun game to watch. Midfield was good, although I didn't think that ALB was thaaaat good that he should keep Taimanivalu out. Still, as mentioned above, he's looking more at home at this level, and it isn't a weak area for us.</blockquote>Agree with most of what you said except this gt12, I a bit of a fan of ALB, think he maybe a bit special in a few years. Think Cane will get a couple of weeks for being careless! But geez he had a big game.

Unco

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="566069" data-time="1458451330">
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Quick citing sweepstake on Sam's ban/verdict
 
Can we agree that Sam actually started at about chest (upper chest if you like) and the guy slipped or ducked and unfortunately copped it "high"? No real malice involved?
 
Ok I'll put in the first outlier: Commission decides all accidental no case to answer for (oi, stop giggling, it might happen)
 
 
Any other predictions/ number of weeks?
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Don't refs usually award a penalty but skip the card for those kinda incidents? Like when that Saffa slipped into Messam's tackle a couple years ago?
 
Who the fuck knows what SANZAAR will do though. May as well decide it by coin toss.
 
gt12, I think ALB was good enough to deserve the starting spot next week. Otherwise I'm fine with them rotating.

bbarcs

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="566080" data-time="1458453388">Fences are standard for all football grounds in South America. I was surprised there weren't more at this stadium like River Plate stadium.</blockquote>
 
Seems like something you can do away with for rugby games. More wondering if it's really needed for an Argentinian rugby crowd.

gt12

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Dan54" data-cid="566081" data-time="1458453781">
Agree with most of what you said except this gt12, I a bit of a fan of ALB, think he maybe a bit special in a few years. 
Think Cane will get a couple of weeks for being careless! But geez he had a big game.</blockquote>
I think he might be special too, but he hasn't been that special yet. Sometimes he looks a bit Regan King, hopefully without the injuries. 
Anyway, I say 1 week for Cane.

The Silver Fern

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