Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?
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@Kirwan said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
Disclaimer: I drink a lot, get told at the work health checks I need to lose weight (178cm ,75kg) , and my kids call me all sorts of names. I am not super-fit so probably there is a wee bit of hypocrisy in the previous post
I’d not do well at these work checks 🤒
That's roughly a couple of kgs below my ratio and I am considered slim.
Well, I consider myself slim, It only takes a few weeks on the beers for a belly to start up.
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@mariner4life said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
I shouldn't really comment on this thread, i have a metabolism that allows me to eat pretty much what i want (not quite now that i am in to my mid-40s) and not stack too much weight on.
that said, i work out 5-6 times a week, and i don't eat breakfast. And i eat a lot of fresh food, the vast majority cooked/prepared by me. I snack on fruit, because i love fruit. i also really fucking love lollies and M&Ms, so i have those too.
Don't drink piss during the week. Do cook your own food. Do make an effort around portion control. Fucking move. That should be enough to make most people fit enough and healthy enough to be in a good spot. Do more if you want.
And do it before you are a fat mess, because once it's there, moving it is fucking hard.
I want to unlike this. I'm the complete opposite of this, just being in the vicinity of carbs sees me stacking on the weight.
I don't eat fruit, mostly because I grew up in Hawkes Bay and had a lifetimes worth before I was a teen and like you I live M&Ms and lollies, but I can't fucking eat them without ballooning out.
So the dietician was no help today, first she told me I should be 72kg (when I was 15 maybe), then she wondered why I don't eat rice (probably my fault for going to an all Asian staffed medical centre), then we did an eating diary and she couldn't suggest any changes to it, then she weighed me and I was 3kgs lighter than when I was first referred to her (2 months ago) so now I have to keep getting regular cholesterol checks and if it doesn't improve I have to go on meds.
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@Nepia oh man that last bit sucks!
Growing up in the BOP has fueled my love of fruit. As a kid driving out to the orchards and picking up massive sacks of oranges, apples, pears, or big boxes of berries. Watermelon after watermelon in summer. God i love fruit.
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@mariner4life said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@Nepia oh man that last bit sucks!
Growing up in the BOP has fueled my love of fruit. As a kid driving out to the orchards and picking up massive sacks of oranges, apples, pears, or big boxes of berries. Watermelon after watermelon in summer. God i love fruit.
Yeah, but if it has a role to play in my migraines then I wont mind going on the meds ... I'm like a small pharmacy these days anyway.
Funny how we have the exact opposite reaction to growing up in an area with lots of fruit. I love sugar, just when it's processed, can't stomach the natural stuff.
Although I'm always keen to tuck into pineapple and strawberries. Think I last ate an apple, well, that wasn't in a pie, in the early 2000s.Although I don't eat fruit I eat truckloads of vegetables.
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@Nepia Don't stress about the cholesterol pills ... I've been on them since I was 25. Genetic thing, nothing I Can do about it.
Tropical fruit is a proper marmite thing. Pineapples, mangoes, melons, lychees etc are the absolute nuts. Super sweet. Yet, you then get dragonfruit (fucking cardboard), durian (gas leak anywhere) and jackfruit (known as a duck substitute).
UK fruit, (like most (non Asian) city fruit, to be honest) is bland.
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@MajorRage said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@Nepia Don't stress about the cholesterol pills ... I've been on them since I was 25. Genetic thing, nothing I Can do about it.
Tropical fruit is a proper marmite thing. Pineapples, mangoes, melons, lychees etc are the absolute nuts. Super sweet. Yet, you then get dragonfruit (fucking cardboard), durian (gas leak anywhere) and jackfruit (known as a duck substitute).
UK fruit, (like most (non Asian) city fruit, to be honest) is bland.
Agree. The thing is it gets force grown out of season or imported from thousands of miles away in refrigerated conditions. No wonder it tastes of fuck all. If you eat locally produced fruit in season it is a different story but then you’ve got fuck all to eat for half the year. The thing that really shits me though is that even in the middle of the English strawberry season, most of our supermarket stuff comes from Spain or Morocco . Why?
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@Catogrande we get Kiwifruit from Italy...
I planted another plum tree (luisa, have an established billington) this year, hoping I get a decent crop of golden queen peaches too, also hoping for a better crop of feijoa this summer, last year was very disappointing...I have stewed peaches, feijoas and plums still in the freezer
Just finished juicing some limes and lemons, and in one of the lemons a larve of something was wriggling about...fucker
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@taniwharugby said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@Catogrande we get Kiwifruit from Italy...
I planted another plum tree (luisa, have an established billington) this year, hoping I get a decent crop of golden queen peaches too, also hoping for a better crop of feijoa this summer, last year was very disappointing...I have stewed peaches, feijoas and plums still in the freezer
Just finished juicing some limes and lemons, and in one of the lemons a larve of something was wriggling about...fucker
Protein bonus
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@Catogrande bring on Brexit!
The flip side of shit fruit is that the vegetables are superb.
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@MajorRage said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@Catogrande bring on Brexit!
The flip side of shit fruit is that the vegetables are superb.
It took me many years to appreciate that, as my dear old Mum had just the one method for cooking all vegetables. Boil the bollocks off them. They all ended up soggy and tasting of dirty water with the occasional aroma of sulphur. Once I found that you could actually add flavour rather than leech it all out, I became a big fan. Even Brussels sprouts now and again.
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@MN5 said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
Didn’t we already have a thread for favourite foods?
.....and another one before that ?
We are talking nutrition here, Jock. Take your deep-fried <insert unhealthy already food here> national culinary traits elsewhere ...
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@MajorRage said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@MN5 said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
Didn’t we already have a thread for favourite foods?
.....and another one before that ?
We are talking nutrition here, Jock. Take your deep-fried <insert unhealthy already food here> national culinary traits elsewhere ...
I’m the first to admit Scotland’s culinary delights are about as appealing as as an intimate evening with Ursula Carlson.
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@MN5 said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@MajorRage said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@MN5 said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
Didn’t we already have a thread for favourite foods?
.....and another one before that ?
We are talking nutrition here, Jock. Take your deep-fried <insert unhealthy already food here> national culinary traits elsewhere ...
I’m the first to admit Scotland’s culinary delights are about as appealing as as an intimate evening with Ursula Carlson.
Fuck you now. I had to go and google the truffle-hunter. <shudder>
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@Catogrande said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@MN5 said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@MajorRage said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@MN5 said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
Didn’t we already have a thread for favourite foods?
.....and another one before that ?
We are talking nutrition here, Jock. Take your deep-fried <insert unhealthy already food here> national culinary traits elsewhere ...
I’m the first to admit Scotland’s culinary delights are about as appealing as as an intimate evening with Ursula Carlson.
Fuck you now. I had to go and google the truffle-hunter. <shudder>
@Catogrande said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@MN5 said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@MajorRage said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@MN5 said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
Didn’t we already have a thread for favourite foods?
.....and another one before that ?
We are talking nutrition here, Jock. Take your deep-fried <insert unhealthy already food here> national culinary traits elsewhere ...
I’m the first to admit Scotland’s culinary delights are about as appealing as as an intimate evening with Ursula Carlson.
Fuck you now. I had to go and google the truffle-hunter. <shudder>
Images of that will make you shrink faster than a skinny dip in Antarctica
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Forgot to say the biggest change has been the anti-fat stance in favour of the low-fat but sugar substituted products.
Professor Yudkin the first guy to go head to head with the Sugar Daddies (primarily Corn producers) was ridiculed and run out of town.
He was right all along.
Low fat products have made the population fatter, with a side of diabetes.
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@MiketheSnow said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
Forgot to say the biggest change has been the anti-fat stance in favour of the low-fat but sugar substituted products.
Professor Yudkin the first guy to go head to head with the Sugar Daddies (primarily Corn producers) was ridiculed and run out of town.
He was right all along.
Low fat products have made the population fatter, with a side of diabetes.
Yep, very well known fact that. When something is not at it's natural level of fat it's replaced with something worse for your body.
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@Kirwan said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
@Godder said in Fighting Obesity - Thoughts?:
Excise tax on sugar and fat, spend the money susidising decent food and meals.
Related, families work and commute a lot more than 60 years ago, so have less time to prepare veges etc. That's a macroeconomic issue, but would be something I would personally work on (says the resident leftie).
Have Labour ever seen a problem they couldn't solve by tax?
A tax on sugar is just going to make people poorer, it won't change behaviour. IMO, the better approach is to remove GST on the foods you want to promote (eg Fruit and Vegetables) and educate kids in school (which has been happening in my kid's school)
I got the idea from noted Labour Party supporter, Gareth Morgan. Neither Labour nor National actually listen to economists on this type of thing - if they did, there would more taxes on externalities than there are.
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I cannot abide sweet foods. Natural or processed.
I actually cannot fathom why people crave such a one dimensional sickly, sticky taste. As a component to give depth of flavour yes but as the overriding flavour for me its akin to eating a cup of salt. Great as a flavour enhancer but fuck off on its own.
