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    @broughie said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @nzzp Yes I get your love for the Broad’s. But we have four years until World Cup and he may not be in the mix

    Is there one in 2024 as well?

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    Just been picked up from the pub. First time I've watched an AB test away from home in years

    Great game of rugby. Both teams were great.

    The scoreline flattered us, no way that was 20 points in difference.

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    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Just been picked up from the pub. First time I've watched an AB test away from home in years

    Great game of rugby. Both teams were great.

    The scoreline flattered us, no way that was 20 points in difference.

    You had me at the bolded bit

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    @kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Just a thought , how would reiko go on the right wing ?

    Wouldn’t that give us some strike power out wide ?

    Would like to give that a crack

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    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    The scoreline flattered us, no way that was 20 points in difference.

    Kind of in the same mindset - my 8 point margin going out to 13 probably would have been a fair reflection given we bombed a couple of tries but 20 points it is.

    Stick it on the wall and use it as motivation:

    • 20 point loss
    • Crawling on the deck
    • Stupid maul penalties
    • Flick passes under pressure
    • Midfield box kicks to Caleb Clarke
    • Rob Fucking Simmons
    • Koroibete using KY instead of sticky spray
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    Certainly some sliding door moments for Oz, and the match.

    Dodgy Savea turnover on own line.
    Double movement no try by the hooker.
    Korobiete held up.

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    Other stuff I just thought of: our set piece improved from last week and we seemed to blunt the ABs maul - absence of Whitelock? Earlyish loss of Moody? Dunno. Anyone got an update on Moody's neck?

    Scrum was a bit back n forth with penalties each way. Each team lost 1 lineout according to stats I saw on ABC.

    Wallabies 40 missed tackles to ABs 23. Turnovers won ABs 8 - 9 Wobs. Penalties conceded ABs 9 - 8 Wobs.

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    @Bovidae said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Good to see Bridge practicing his comedy cos he’ll need another career path now pro rugby’s door is shut

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    @Rapido said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Certainly some sliding door moments for Oz, and the match.

    Dodgy Savea turnover on own line.
    Double movement no try by the hooker.
    Korobiete held up.

    And that is probably the moments to keep in mind for AB fans - knowing that, while 20 points is a lot in Test rugby, they are edge moments when you've got a team that can score like the ABs can. 14 point turnarounds are not unusual with BB on the field.

    Both of the Wallaby no-try incidents you list above are failure to execute, and while one was a great bit of defence, the other was pure error from our guy.

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    @booboo said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Just a thought , how would reiko go on the right wing ?

    Wouldn’t that give us some strike power out wide ?

    Would like to give that a crack

    Well Rieko does carry the ball in his right hand a fair bit so that's a start.

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    @bayimports said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Frizzel with hands like feet today, sure not an easy pick up, but not the first time today

    Had some good and bad, to be fair.

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    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Well done Caleb!!

    👏 👏 👏

    What a difference a surname makes.

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    @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Great debut from Hodgeman

    Has been excellent, like an extra loose forward.

    Tupou left soon after his arrival?!

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    @NTA said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @broughie said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @NTA Well the only solution to that is don’t go backwards
    

    I'm not disagreeing, but consistency from the ref would be nice.

    Your scrum has been rubbish with Laulala. The new guy made him look good

    He seems to want to scrum low. Sio kept hips up and when the inevitable happened Angus ajudged it to be Nepo's failure. But he kept doing it!

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    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Patty T might have some fitness issues. Still think our 6 is reactive rather than proactive

    yeah Patty not yet carryign his Superform over, hopefully just getting into his work as he was better in the 2nd 40

    Frizell, really not sold on him, so hot and cold

    Totally agree. BUT Clan kept playing him and by end he was form NZ 6. Even St. Jerome grew into role.

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    @Rapido Toomua going off was the real turning point i reckon. Defensive lynch pin and no 2nd 5 on the bench.

    Tupou too, to a lesser extent.

    But also the strategy across the park from the start was wrong - we had no chance.

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    @NTA said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    I just mused this on the social medias:

    If "failing to score from within 5m" and "pointless flick pass instead of going to deck" were KPIs, the Wallabies would have their maximum bonus.

    The issue for Rennie the next fortnight is - if you get booted for not doing your job - how many can he reasonably expect to boot?

    I'm not as disappointed as I could be, given I expected to lose, but it is ample demonstration that the players haven't yet broken the shackles of brainfart play. The young players throwing flick passes instead of better options - that needs to be tempered.

    A couple of individuals weren't up to scratch today and when it is strike weapons like Koroibete it hurts.

    Aussie backs more tricky than a barrel of monkeys, but for me need a sober head in there. To'omua seems to engender better option taking. Hope injury settles.

    Forwards seemed less effective this week. Tupou in particular seemed well looked after. Hannigan seemed mix was very good and very stupid. Not sure he was a step up from Samu.

    If I were Rennie, I'd tinker, but tell the boys to use defeat as a lesson and just to be better next time. Young men.

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    @pakman said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @NTA said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @broughie said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @NTA Well the only solution to that is don’t go backwards
    

    I'm not disagreeing, but consistency from the ref would be nice.

    Your scrum has been rubbish with Laulala. The new guy made him look good

    He seems to want to scrum low. Sio kept hips up and when the inevitable happened Angus ajudged it to be Nepo's failure. But he kept doing it!

    Yep that's the scrum tho - most refs have no idea and just go with the flow. Note when the ABs got the penalty for Wobs standing up, it was AB feed. Next scrum was Wob feed and no such thing occurred because they're all aware that the team feeding is probably going to get the rub short of a massive shunt.

    EDIT: I do this all the time to refs when I'm playing - butter them up with a bit of yes sir/no sir, but gently inform them the opposition LHP is boring in/standing up. Then on our feed I'll stand up and get the penalty more often than not 🙂

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    @pakman said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    If I were Rennie, I'd tinker, but tell the boys to use defeat as a lesson and just to be better next time. Young men.

    Obviously Toomua needs looking at with the injury. Koroibete extremely unlikely to play that badly again.

    I'm not yet convinced Tupou is more than a flat track bully with ball in hand although his threat value isn't used enough to decoy IMHO.

    The skill level is higher than previous squads and that's what we need to start building on. Do that, but like you say don't change too much - just identify that there is less time and space and maybe put away the flick passes.

    Hanigan's ball to Hooper after his break was an example- ball in two hands, end over end like a league pass instead of bullet spiral at the chest, waiting until he'd fixed the defender. Quicker and easier, keeps the opposition guessing, commits a number. The younger guys (Wright, Wilson, Uelese) all tried to go out the back of the hand too close to contact and fucked it.

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