Cannabis debate
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@Crucial said in Cannabis debate:
In case anyone is still trying to make their mind up
so what you are saying is, all i need to do is get the missus on the weed and she'll let me put my french horn in her ass?
anyone got a $20?
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@mariner4life said in Cannabis debate:
so what you are saying is, all i need to do is get the missus on the weed and she'll let me put my french horn in her ass?
On. Not in, on. very subtle but important difference...
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@nzzp said in Cannabis debate:
@mariner4life said in Cannabis debate:
so what you are saying is, all i need to do is get the missus on the weed and she'll let me put my french horn in her ass?
On. Not in, on. very subtle but important difference...
i can get that now
followed by a very sharp "don't you fucking dare"
I'm not one to change lanes without indicating
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I was in the Police for many years. I remember one bloke, heavy meth user, broke into 30+ houses, in and out of Jail. He got out and disappeared off our radar, I thought he must have moved or died.
About 6 months later I run into him at the Supermarket. He has work boots, pants etc on and looked completely different. He spotted me and I made small talk with him. I Said "haven't seen you around" He said, "I'm too bloody tired after work to break into houses."
So after hours upon hours chasing him, going to court, years in jail. All he needed was a job.
I honestly believe the key to reducing offending is education, employment, strong family and social connections.
All the dependent drug users I engaged with couldn't have cared less about its legality. That made no difference whatsoever.
I am all for legalisation, if you want to reduce the harms of drugs you need to give people a reason not to become dependent on them in the first place. Plenty of people use alcohol responsibly and cannabis would be no different.
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@mariner4life said in Cannabis debate:
@Crucial said in Cannabis debate:
In case anyone is still trying to make their mind up
so what you are saying is, all i need to do is get the missus on the weed and she'll let me put my french horn in her ass?
anyone got a $20?
Given that they have been smoking he literally will be blowing smoke up her ass (which hasn't been used for several centuries as a medical procedure, or in this case it seems entertainment).
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Seems highly (ahem) likely it's not going to get over the line. A real opportunity missed but I wonder if folks just have far too much going on for this to really get the level of debate and discussion. Covid, general election, end of life, Covid, ... did I mention Covid?
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@Paekakboyz said in Cannabis debate:
Seems highly (ahem) likely it's not going to get over the line. A real opportunity missed but I wonder if folks just have far too much going on for this to really get the level of debate and discussion. Covid, general election, end of life, Covid, ... did I mention Covid?
There were a lot of people who just voted no because "cannabis bad", and no amount of logic or facts was going to change that.
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@Paekakboyz said in Cannabis debate:
Seems highly (ahem) likely it's not going to get over the line. A real opportunity missed but I wonder if folks just have far too much going on for this to really get the level of debate and discussion. Covid, general election, end of life, Covid, ... did I mention Covid?
Being a Dad is agreeing with you
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@Godder said in Cannabis debate:
@Paekakboyz said in Cannabis debate:
Seems highly (ahem) likely it's not going to get over the line. A real opportunity missed but I wonder if folks just have far too much going on for this to really get the level of debate and discussion. Covid, general election, end of life, Covid, ... did I mention Covid?
There were a lot of people who just voted no because "cannabis bad", and no amount of logic or facts was going to change that.
I think Cannabis is bad for people, but voted 'yes'. Lesser of two evils. But there wasn't a lot of debate or discussion on it - drowned out as @Paekakboyz said, by Covid, covid, elections and euthansia
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@chimoaus said in Cannabis debate:
I was in the Police for many years. I remember one bloke, heavy meth user, broke into 30+ houses, in and out of Jail. He got out and disappeared off our radar, I thought he must have moved or died.
About 6 months later I run into him at the Supermarket. He has work boots, pants etc on and looked completely different. He spotted me and I made small talk with him. I Said "haven't seen you around" He said, "I'm too bloody tired after work to break into houses."
So after hours upon hours chasing him, going to court, years in jail. All he needed was a job.
I honestly believe the key to reducing offending is education, employment, strong family and social connections.
All the dependent drug users I engaged with couldn't have cared less about its legality. That made no difference whatsoever.
I am all for legalisation, if you want to reduce the harms of drugs you need to give people a reason not to become dependent on them in the first place. Plenty of people use alcohol responsibly and cannabis would be no different.
Great post
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when will the results from the 2 referndums be out?
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@taniwharugby said in Cannabis debate:
when will the results from the 2 referndums be out?
Apparently Friday is the new Thursday.
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@MN5 what doesn't kill you gives you? ... grey hairs?! π
I think its kind of crazy that we might pass on a change that could go someway s towards adddressing some massive, long term issues we've been banging our heads against. Potentially missing that boat grates more than being able to visit a weed shop or grow your own legally.
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@nzzp said in Cannabis debate:
@Godder said in Cannabis debate:
@Paekakboyz said in Cannabis debate:
Seems highly (ahem) likely it's not going to get over the line. A real opportunity missed but I wonder if folks just have far too much going on for this to really get the level of debate and discussion. Covid, general election, end of life, Covid, ... did I mention Covid?
There were a lot of people who just voted no because "cannabis bad", and no amount of logic or facts was going to change that.
I think Cannabis is bad for people, but voted 'yes'. Lesser of two evils. But there wasn't a lot of debate or discussion on it - drowned out as @Paekakboyz said, by Covid, covid, elections and euthansia
I also voted yes. Two weeks to get the referenda results.
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@Godder said in Cannabis debate:
@nzzp said in Cannabis debate:
@Godder said in Cannabis debate:
@Paekakboyz said in Cannabis debate:
Seems highly (ahem) likely it's not going to get over the line. A real opportunity missed but I wonder if folks just have far too much going on for this to really get the level of debate and discussion. Covid, general election, end of life, Covid, ... did I mention Covid?
There were a lot of people who just voted no because "cannabis bad", and no amount of logic or facts was going to change that.
I think Cannabis is bad for people, but voted 'yes'. Lesser of two evils. But there wasn't a lot of debate or discussion on it - drowned out as @Paekakboyz said, by Covid, covid, elections and euthansia
Two weeks to get the referenda results.
Why is that? Seems like a very long time. Are they fingerprinting all the βYesβ votes or something?
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@JC said in Cannabis debate:
@Godder said in Cannabis debate:
@nzzp said in Cannabis debate:
@Godder said in Cannabis debate:
@Paekakboyz said in Cannabis debate:
Seems highly (ahem) likely it's not going to get over the line. A real opportunity missed but I wonder if folks just have far too much going on for this to really get the level of debate and discussion. Covid, general election, end of life, Covid, ... did I mention Covid?
There were a lot of people who just voted no because "cannabis bad", and no amount of logic or facts was going to change that.
I think Cannabis is bad for people, but voted 'yes'. Lesser of two evils. But there wasn't a lot of debate or discussion on it - drowned out as @Paekakboyz said, by Covid, covid, elections and euthansia
Two weeks to get the referenda results.
Why is that? Seems like a very long time. Are they fingerprinting all the βYesβ votes or something?
I'd be happier if it was tracing the 12000 who voted Advance NZ
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@JC election night is a preliminary count so that NZ and the politicians can start planning and preparing based on those results, so only the election votes are counted. Over the weeks following, all the specials are checked for legality, and everything is then recounted.
The referendum is less important since it doesn't have a legal time frame to return the writs which is the legal foundation for MPs forming Parliament and subsequently the government.
It takes longer afterwards because there are a lot less staff than on election day.